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| Re: Now for a DJ-esque inspired story. [message #70734 is a reply to message #70730] |
Tue, 01 August 2006 05:08   |
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Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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Clocking issues exhibit some mighty strange symptoms when two computers are
interfaced digitally. One thing I found after trying 6534785465 different
scenarios was to clock all of my MECs from the master WC, then run 9 pin
sync cables from the MEC ADAT modules to the sync ports on the RME
cards..........and *never* to hook up a WC cable to the RME cards when they
are synced to Paris ADAT. This seems to be the most stable solution. The
downside of it is that everything is dependint on Paris being booted because
if the clock is being regenerated by the Paris ADAT modules, then even to
run Wavelab on the native DAW, I have to have the Paris DAW up and running.
I can just turn on a MEC and it will generate ADAT sync, but it's always 48k
unless the Paris app is also launched. Not a problem at all as long as I'm
sticking with 44.1-48k sample rates. If I want to record at 96k, I just
distribute my Mytek clock to the RME cards, terminating the BNC outs on each
RME card or I can use the RME clock and just daisy chain the RME cards,
terminating the BNC output on the last card. How often do I use 88.1 or
96k???.....well........just about never, but if I'm going to advertize that
I have this capability, I need to be able to pull it off once in a blue
moon. I require my clients to provide their own 250G drive (formatted) if
they want to record Hi Rez. This usually makes them reconsider.
Glad you got this happening Jeremy........and as far as credit where credit
is due, you can thank others as well........Gene Lennon, Brian T, Mic Cross,
Dedric Terry, Aaron Allen, Morgan Pettinato, Chris Lugwig, old weird uncle
Rick and I'm sure the list goes on and on and I'm leaving out some folks.
All of these Parisites were instrumental to whatever success I have had in
putting together my little monster here.
;o)
"Jeremy Luzier" <j.luzier@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:44cede7c$1@linux...
> hehehehe... DJ's "adventures" are always interesting.... i think its in
the
> way he seems to truly enjoy the not so pleasant "mishaps" of life.
>
>
>
> ;-)
>
>
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44cecdd2$1@linux...
> >
> >
> > Yeh, but where's the bit where two giant dogs romp through the house
> chasing
> > a skunk...?
> >
> > ;o)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Kim.
> >
> > "Jeremy Luzier" <j.luzier@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >setup....
> > >
> > >a7n8x-e deluxe.
> > >xp2800
> > >4 ide drives
> > >1- usb drive
> > >1- usb dvd drive
> > >3 uad-1
> > >1- digi 9652
> > >1 - digi 9636
> > >antec true power 2 480 watts
> > >
> > >my computer sits in a 'machine' room that has no heat or a/c. i have
the
> > >case open and a fan blowing on it. during the summer the average mobo
> temp
> > >is 27 C and cpu temp is 44 C while under full load (70-90% perf meter
in
> > >nuendo). the west wall of the 'machine' room is the west wall of my
> house.
> > >during the winter when temps outside are much cooler... the average
mobo
> > >temp is 25 C, cpu around 39/40.
> > >
> > >before december 05 my system didn't not have the 9636... only the 9652.
> > i
> > >was very happy with the setup.
> > >
> > >in december 05 i installed the 9636 which runs out to a rosetta 800...
> > >everyone gets clock from the big ben.
> > >
> > >everything worked like a frickin charm... i was stoked. pci bus jammed
> > >packed.... ran like a frickin champ!
> > >
> > >around may 06, the temperature outside started warming up. when the
mobo
> > >temp reached 28 C... the 9636 would not put out signal. i took a uad-1
> > out
> > >to reduce the mobo temp... it helped but mobo would still reach 28 C...
> > and
> > >poof... 9636 goes silent.
> > >
> > >ADMITTEDLY.... there is alot of stuff on this pci bus... it may just be
> > to
> > >much with 3 uad's and 2 digi's. but with 2 uad-1's and 2 digi's?. i
am
> > >ASSUMING heat was the reason the 9636 went silent.... because that is
the
> > >only condition that seemed to make it work.... reduce temp.... it comes
> > to
> > >life.... increase temp.... its silent. the 9652 was has NEVER been
> > >problematic.
> > >
> > >yes i tested the the 9636.
> > >
> > >i switched them around.... made the 52 a 36 and made the 36 a 52.
> > >
> > >nothing changed.
> > >
> > >
> > >i have tried every pci configuration with 2 uad-1's and the digi cards.
> > >
> > >can someone help?? maybe there is something i am missing in order to
get
> > >these digi cards working together.
> > >
> > >thanks!
> > >
> > >jeremy
> > >
> >
>
> ____________________________________________________________ _______________
> _
> > >__________
> > >
> > >
> > >OK.
> > >
> > >Its fixed right now and seems to be as rock solid as it ever was.
> > >
> > >Here is what i did.
> > >
> > >i switched around the i/o of the 9636 and 9652. Now the rosetta 800
goes
> > i/o
> > >of the 9652 and 8 PARIS channels go i/o of the 9636.
> > >
> > >Now everything in my setup gets clocked by a big ben. SO now the
rosetta
> > 800
> > >is connected to a card that is getting clock... and the rosetta is
> getting
> > >clock directly from the big ben.
> > >
> > >i setup a project with audio running through all the channels i use in
a
> > >mix. loaded up all 3 uad's. removed the fan that was blowing on the
mobo.
> > >the temp got up to 36 C... NOT ONE DROP OUT.
> > >
> > >i am keeping my fingers crossed... but damn this looks fixed. COULD
THIS
> > >HAVE BEEN A CLOCK ISSUE ALL ALONG... and for some reason the extra
> > >temperature of spring just triggered the problem????
> > >
> > >my a7n8x-e is RAWKIN again... i know this is an old board but damn...
all
> > 5
> > >pci slots full... and it goes.
> > >
> > >what do you guys think?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >p.s. i must credit DJ. i could have never posted this had he not
> pioneered
> > >the art of "the frustrated-my computer is fucked-let me run 1239586
> channels
> > >of lightpipe through 4 different computers clocked through a bnc cable
> stuck
> > >up my horses arss... and it works... ah fuck it i am mixing inside
> PARIS!!"
> > >
> > >;-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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| Re: Now for a DJ-esque inspired story. [message #70741 is a reply to message #70734] |
Tue, 01 August 2006 08:04 |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
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Senior Member |
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OK DJ, I have my RME card in my cubase comp synced to the adat 9 pin sync
from the Paris mec, and I ALSO have word clock running to it from the GenX,
as well as the GENX clocking 2 Paris Mecs and a 442 that I got from some
guy ;-)
I have had zero problems with this so far. I think I'm doing that because
of an old post by BT that basically said the clock passed from the adat cards
wasn't that good. But I may be remembring it wrong. Anyway, I've had it set
up that way since I got the word clock, with no problems. Weird.
Rod
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Clocking issues exhibit some mighty strange symptoms when two computers
are
>interfaced digitally. One thing I found after trying 6534785465 different
>scenarios was to clock all of my MECs from the master WC, then run 9 pin
>sync cables from the MEC ADAT modules to the sync ports on the RME
>cards..........and *never* to hook up a WC cable to the RME cards when they
>are synced to Paris ADAT. This seems to be the most stable solution. The
>downside of it is that everything is dependint on Paris being booted because
>if the clock is being regenerated by the Paris ADAT modules, then even to
>run Wavelab on the native DAW, I have to have the Paris DAW up and running.
>I can just turn on a MEC and it will generate ADAT sync, but it's always
48k
>unless the Paris app is also launched. Not a problem at all as long as I'm
>sticking with 44.1-48k sample rates. If I want to record at 96k, I just
>distribute my Mytek clock to the RME cards, terminating the BNC outs on
each
>RME card or I can use the RME clock and just daisy chain the RME cards,
>terminating the BNC output on the last card. How often do I use 88.1 or
>96k???.....well........just about never, but if I'm going to advertize that
>I have this capability, I need to be able to pull it off once in a blue
>moon. I require my clients to provide their own 250G drive (formatted) if
>they want to record Hi Rez. This usually makes them reconsider.
>
>Glad you got this happening Jeremy........and as far as credit where credit
>is due, you can thank others as well........Gene Lennon, Brian T, Mic Cross,
>Dedric Terry, Aaron Allen, Morgan Pettinato, Chris Lugwig, old weird uncle
>Rick and I'm sure the list goes on and on and I'm leaving out some folks.
>All of these Parisites were instrumental to whatever success I have had
in
>putting together my little monster here.
>
>;o)
>
>"Jeremy Luzier" <j.luzier@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:44cede7c$1@linux...
>> hehehehe... DJ's "adventures" are always interesting.... i think its in
>the
>> way he seems to truly enjoy the not so pleasant "mishaps" of life.
>>
>>
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44cecdd2$1@linux...
>> >
>> >
>> > Yeh, but where's the bit where two giant dogs romp through the house
>> chasing
>> > a skunk...?
>> >
>> > ;o)
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Kim.
>> >
>> > "Jeremy Luzier" <j.luzier@comcast.net> wrote:
>> > >setup....
>> > >
>> > >a7n8x-e deluxe.
>> > >xp2800
>> > >4 ide drives
>> > >1- usb drive
>> > >1- usb dvd drive
>> > >3 uad-1
>> > >1- digi 9652
>> > >1 - digi 9636
>> > >antec true power 2 480 watts
>> > >
>> > >my computer sits in a 'machine' room that has no heat or a/c. i have
>the
>> > >case open and a fan blowing on it. during the summer the average mobo
>> temp
>> > >is 27 C and cpu temp is 44 C while under full load (70-90% perf meter
>in
>> > >nuendo). the west wall of the 'machine' room is the west wall of my
>> house.
>> > >during the winter when temps outside are much cooler... the average
>mobo
>> > >temp is 25 C, cpu around 39/40.
>> > >
>> > >before december 05 my system didn't not have the 9636... only the 9652.
>> > i
>> > >was very happy with the setup.
>> > >
>> > >in december 05 i installed the 9636 which runs out to a rosetta 800...
>> > >everyone gets clock from the big ben.
>> > >
>> > >everything worked like a frickin charm... i was stoked. pci bus jammed
>> > >packed.... ran like a frickin champ!
>> > >
>> > >around may 06, the temperature outside started warming up. when the
>mobo
>> > >temp reached 28 C... the 9636 would not put out signal. i took a uad-1
>> > out
>> > >to reduce the mobo temp... it helped but mobo would still reach 28
C...
>> > and
>> > >poof... 9636 goes silent.
>> > >
>> > >ADMITTEDLY.... there is alot of stuff on this pci bus... it may just
be
>> > to
>> > >much with 3 uad's and 2 digi's. but with 2 uad-1's and 2 digi's?.
i
>am
>> > >ASSUMING heat was the reason the 9636 went silent.... because that
is
>the
>> > >only condition that seemed to make it work.... reduce temp.... it comes
>> > to
>> > >life.... increase temp.... its silent. the 9652 was has NEVER been
>> > >problematic.
>> > >
>> > >yes i tested the the 9636.
>> > >
>> > >i switched them around.... made the 52 a 36 and made the 36 a 52.
>> > >
>> > >nothing changed.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >i have tried every pci configuration with 2 uad-1's and the digi cards.
>> > >
>> > >can someone help?? maybe there is something i am missing in order
to
>get
>> > >these digi cards working together.
>> > >
>> > >thanks!
>> > >
>> > >jeremy
>> > >
>> >
>>
>> ____________________________________________________________ _______________
>> _
>> > >__________
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >OK.
>> > >
>> > >Its fixed right now and seems to be as rock solid as it ever was.
>> > >
>> > >Here is what i did.
>> > >
>> > >i switched around the i/o of the 9636 and 9652. Now the rosetta 800
>goes
>> > i/o
>> > >of the 9652 and 8 PARIS channels go i/o of the 9636.
>> > >
>> > >Now everything in my setup gets clocked by a big ben. SO now the
>rosetta
>> > 800
>> > >is connected to a card that is getting clock... and the rosetta is
>> getting
>> > >clock directly from the big ben.
>> > >
>> > >i setup a project with audio running through all the channels i use
in
>a
>> > >mix. loaded up all 3 uad's. removed the fan that was blowing on the
>mobo.
>> > >the temp got up to 36 C... NOT ONE DROP OUT.
>> > >
>> > >i am keeping my fingers crossed... but damn this looks fixed. COULD
>THIS
>> > >HAVE BEEN A CLOCK ISSUE ALL ALONG... and for some reason the extra
>> > >temperature of spring just triggered the problem????
>> > >
>> > >my a7n8x-e is RAWKIN again... i know this is an old board but damn...
>all
>> > 5
>> > >pci slots full... and it goes.
>> > >
>> > >what do you guys think?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >p.s. i must credit DJ. i could have never posted this had he not
>> pioneered
>> > >the art of "the frustrated-my computer is fucked-let me run 1239586
>> channels
>> > >of lightpipe through 4 different computers clocked through a bnc cable
>> stuck
>> > >up my horses arss... and it works... ah fuck it i am mixing inside
>> PARIS!!"
>> > >
>> > >;-)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: Now for a DJ-esque inspired story. [message #70753 is a reply to message #70741] |
Tue, 01 August 2006 16:33 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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Senior Member |
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Rod,
I remember that post by Brian T. and that's precisely the reason I was doing
the same thing. I had constand freezes/lockups until I disconnected the WC
cables from the RME cards and just used the sync from the MEC. I think I
know why this is happening though. I am using sync from three separate ADAT
modules in three separate MECs running to three RME cards. Each MEC is being
sync'ed to the same WC, but there is some latency in submixes between MECs.
I wonder if this causes sync problems when the RME cards are synced to both
MEC ADAT and WC. there are some variations I could try, but I really hear no
difference whether WC oir ADAT sync is used since the ADAT sync that Paris
is sending the RME cards is just sample accurate sync generated by the ADAT
modules relative to the WC.
Regards,
Deej
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:44cf6d6d$1@linux...
>
> OK DJ, I have my RME card in my cubase comp synced to the adat 9 pin sync
> from the Paris mec, and I ALSO have word clock running to it from the
GenX,
> as well as the GENX clocking 2 Paris Mecs and a 442 that I got from some
> guy ;-)
> I have had zero problems with this so far. I think I'm doing that because
> of an old post by BT that basically said the clock passed from the adat
cards
> wasn't that good. But I may be remembring it wrong. Anyway, I've had it
set
> up that way since I got the word clock, with no problems. Weird.
> Rod
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >Clocking issues exhibit some mighty strange symptoms when two computers
> are
> >interfaced digitally. One thing I found after trying 6534785465 different
> >scenarios was to clock all of my MECs from the master WC, then run 9 pin
> >sync cables from the MEC ADAT modules to the sync ports on the RME
> >cards..........and *never* to hook up a WC cable to the RME cards when
they
> >are synced to Paris ADAT. This seems to be the most stable solution. The
> >downside of it is that everything is dependint on Paris being booted
because
> >if the clock is being regenerated by the Paris ADAT modules, then even to
> >run Wavelab on the native DAW, I have to have the Paris DAW up and
running.
> >I can just turn on a MEC and it will generate ADAT sync, but it's always
> 48k
> >unless the Paris app is also launched. Not a problem at all as long as
I'm
> >sticking with 44.1-48k sample rates. If I want to record at 96k, I just
> >distribute my Mytek clock to the RME cards, terminating the BNC outs on
> each
> >RME card or I can use the RME clock and just daisy chain the RME cards,
> >terminating the BNC output on the last card. How often do I use 88.1 or
> >96k???.....well........just about never, but if I'm going to advertize
that
> >I have this capability, I need to be able to pull it off once in a blue
> >moon. I require my clients to provide their own 250G drive (formatted) if
> >they want to record Hi Rez. This usually makes them reconsider.
> >
> >Glad you got this happening Jeremy........and as far as credit where
credit
> >is due, you can thank others as well........Gene Lennon, Brian T, Mic
Cross,
> >Dedric Terry, Aaron Allen, Morgan Pettinato, Chris Lugwig, old weird
uncle
> >Rick and I'm sure the list goes on and on and I'm leaving out some folks.
> >All of these Parisites were instrumental to whatever success I have had
> in
> >putting together my little monster here.
> >
> >;o)
> >
> >"Jeremy Luzier" <j.luzier@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >news:44cede7c$1@linux...
> >> hehehehe... DJ's "adventures" are always interesting.... i think its in
> >the
> >> way he seems to truly enjoy the not so pleasant "mishaps" of life.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ;-)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:44cecdd2$1@linux...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Yeh, but where's the bit where two giant dogs romp through the house
> >> chasing
> >> > a skunk...?
> >> >
> >> > ;o)
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > Kim.
> >> >
> >> > "Jeremy Luzier" <j.luzier@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> > >setup....
> >> > >
> >> > >a7n8x-e deluxe.
> >> > >xp2800
> >> > >4 ide drives
> >> > >1- usb drive
> >> > >1- usb dvd drive
> >> > >3 uad-1
> >> > >1- digi 9652
> >> > >1 - digi 9636
> >> > >antec true power 2 480 watts
> >> > >
> >> > >my computer sits in a 'machine' room that has no heat or a/c. i
have
> >the
> >> > >case open and a fan blowing on it. during the summer the average
mobo
> >> temp
> >> > >is 27 C and cpu temp is 44 C while under full load (70-90% perf
meter
> >in
> >> > >nuendo). the west wall of the 'machine' room is the west wall of my
> >> house.
> >> > >during the winter when temps outside are much cooler... the average
> >mobo
> >> > >temp is 25 C, cpu around 39/40.
> >> > >
> >> > >before december 05 my system didn't not have the 9636... only the
9652.
> >> > i
> >> > >was very happy with the setup.
> >> > >
> >> > >in december 05 i installed the 9636 which runs out to a rosetta
800...
> >> > >everyone gets clock from the big ben.
> >> > >
> >> > >everything worked like a frickin charm... i was stoked. pci bus
jammed
> >> > >packed.... ran like a frickin champ!
> >> > >
> >> > >around may 06, the temperature outside started warming up. when the
> >mobo
> >> > >temp reached 28 C... the 9636 would not put out signal. i took a
uad-1
> >> > out
> >> > >to reduce the mobo temp... it helped but mobo would still reach 28
> C...
> >> > and
> >> > >poof... 9636 goes silent.
> >> > >
> >> > >ADMITTEDLY.... there is alot of stuff on this pci bus... it may just
> be
> >> > to
> >> > >much with 3 uad's and 2 digi's. but with 2 uad-1's and 2 digi's?.
> i
> >am
> >> > >ASSUMING heat was the reason the 9636 went silent.... because that
> is
> >the
> >> > >only condition that seemed to make it work.... reduce temp.... it
comes
> >> > to
> >> > >life.... increase temp.... its silent. the 9652 was has NEVER been
> >> > >problematic.
> >> > >
> >> > >yes i tested the the 9636.
> >> > >
> >> > >i switched them around.... made the 52 a 36 and made the 36 a 52.
> >> > >
> >> > >nothing changed.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >i have tried every pci configuration with 2 uad-1's and the digi
cards.
> >> > >
> >> > >can someone help?? maybe there is something i am missing in order
> to
> >get
> >> > >these digi cards working together.
> >> > >
> >> > >thanks!
> >> > >
> >> > >jeremy
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
>
>> ____________________________________________________________ ______________
_
> >> _
> >> > >__________
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >OK.
> >> > >
> >> > >Its fixed right now and seems to be as rock solid as it ever was.
> >> > >
> >> > >Here is what i did.
> >> > >
> >> > >i switched around the i/o of the 9636 and 9652. Now the rosetta 800
> >goes
> >> > i/o
> >> > >of the 9652 and 8 PARIS channels go i/o of the 9636.
> >> > >
> >> > >Now everything in my setup gets clocked by a big ben. SO now the
> >rosetta
> >> > 800
> >> > >is connected to a card that is getting clock... and the rosetta is
> >> getting
> >> > >clock directly from the big ben.
> >> > >
> >> > >i setup a project with audio running through all the channels i use
> in
> >a
> >> > >mix. loaded up all 3 uad's. removed the fan that was blowing on the
> >mobo.
> >> > >the temp got up to 36 C... NOT ONE DROP OUT.
> >> > >
> >> > >i am keeping my fingers crossed... but damn this looks fixed. COULD
> >THIS
> >> > >HAVE BEEN A CLOCK ISSUE ALL ALONG... and for some reason the extra
> >> > >temperature of spring just triggered the problem????
> >> > >
> >> > >my a7n8x-e is RAWKIN again... i know this is an old board but
damn...
> >all
> >> > 5
> >> > >pci slots full... and it goes.
> >> > >
> >> > >what do you guys think?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >p.s. i must credit DJ. i could have never posted this had he not
> >> pioneered
> >> > >the art of "the frustrated-my computer is fucked-let me run 1239586
> >> channels
> >> > >of lightpipe through 4 different computers clocked through a bnc
cable
> >> stuck
> >> > >up my horses arss... and it works... ah fuck it i am mixing inside
> >> PARIS!!"
> >> > >
> >> > >;-)
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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| Re: Now for a DJ-esque inspired story. [message #70757 is a reply to message #70753] |
Tue, 01 August 2006 20:55 |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
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Senior Member |
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OK, that makes sense. I only have one adat card running to one RME card.
Rod
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Rod,
>
>I remember that post by Brian T. and that's precisely the reason I was doing
>the same thing. I had constand freezes/lockups until I disconnected the
WC
>cables from the RME cards and just used the sync from the MEC. I think I
>know why this is happening though. I am using sync from three separate ADAT
>modules in three separate MECs running to three RME cards. Each MEC is being
>sync'ed to the same WC, but there is some latency in submixes between MECs.
>I wonder if this causes sync problems when the RME cards are synced to both
>MEC ADAT and WC. there are some variations I could try, but I really hear
no
>difference whether WC oir ADAT sync is used since the ADAT sync that Paris
>is sending the RME cards is just sample accurate sync generated by the ADAT
>modules relative to the WC.
>
>Regards,
>
>Deej
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:44cf6d6d$1@linux...
>>
>> OK DJ, I have my RME card in my cubase comp synced to the adat 9 pin sync
>> from the Paris mec, and I ALSO have word clock running to it from the
>GenX,
>> as well as the GENX clocking 2 Paris Mecs and a 442 that I got from some
>> guy ;-)
>> I have had zero problems with this so far. I think I'm doing that because
>> of an old post by BT that basically said the clock passed from the adat
>cards
>> wasn't that good. But I may be remembring it wrong. Anyway, I've had it
>set
>> up that way since I got the word clock, with no problems. Weird.
>> Rod
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >Clocking issues exhibit some mighty strange symptoms when two computers
>> are
>> >interfaced digitally. One thing I found after trying 6534785465 different
>> >scenarios was to clock all of my MECs from the master WC, then run 9
pin
>> >sync cables from the MEC ADAT modules to the sync ports on the RME
>> >cards..........and *never* to hook up a WC cable to the RME cards when
>they
>> >are synced to Paris ADAT. This seems to be the most stable solution.
The
>> >downside of it is that everything is dependint on Paris being booted
>because
>> >if the clock is being regenerated by the Paris ADAT modules, then even
to
>> >run Wavelab on the native DAW, I have to have the Paris DAW up and
>running.
>> >I can just turn on a MEC and it will generate ADAT sync, but it's always
>> 48k
>> >unless the Paris app is also launched. Not a problem at all as long as
>I'm
>> >sticking with 44.1-48k sample rates. If I want to record at 96k, I just
>> >distribute my Mytek clock to the RME cards, terminating the BNC outs
on
>> each
>> >RME card or I can use the RME clock and just daisy chain the RME cards,
>> >terminating the BNC output on the last card. How often do I use 88.1
or
>> >96k???.....well........just about never, but if I'm going to advertize
>that
>> >I have this capability, I need to be able to pull it off once in a blue
>> >moon. I require my clients to provide their own 250G drive (formatted)
if
>> >they want to record Hi Rez. This usually makes them reconsider.
>> >
>> >Glad you got this happening Jeremy........and as far as credit where
>credit
>> >is due, you can thank others as well........Gene Lennon, Brian T, Mic
>Cross,
>> >Dedric Terry, Aaron Allen, Morgan Pettinato, Chris Lugwig, old weird
>uncle
>> >Rick and I'm sure the list goes on and on and I'm leaving out some folks.
>> >All of these Parisites were instrumental to whatever success I have had
>> in
>> >putting together my little monster here.
>> >
>> >;o)
>> >
>> >"Jeremy Luzier" <j.luzier@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >news:44cede7c$1@linux...
>> >> hehehehe... DJ's "adventures" are always interesting.... i think its
in
>> >the
>> >> way he seems to truly enjoy the not so pleasant "mishaps" of life.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ;-)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:44cecdd2$1@linux...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Yeh, but where's the bit where two giant dogs romp through the house
>> >> chasing
>> >> > a skunk...?
>> >> >
>> >> > ;o)
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers,
>> >> > Kim.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Jeremy Luzier" <j.luzier@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> > >setup....
>> >> > >
>> >> > >a7n8x-e deluxe.
>> >> > >xp2800
>> >> > >4 ide drives
>> >> > >1- usb drive
>> >> > >1- usb dvd drive
>> >> > >3 uad-1
>> >> > >1- digi 9652
>> >> > >1 - digi 9636
>> >> > >antec true power 2 480 watts
>> >> > >
>> >> > >my computer sits in a 'machine' room that has no heat or a/c. i
>have
>> >the
>> >> > >case open and a fan blowing on it. during the summer the average
>mobo
>> >> temp
>> >> > >is 27 C and cpu temp is 44 C while under full load (70-90% perf
>meter
>> >in
>> >> > >nuendo). the west wall of the 'machine' room is the west wall of
my
>> >> house.
>> >> > >during the winter when temps outside are much cooler... the average
>> >mobo
>> >> > >temp is 25 C, cpu around 39/40.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >before december 05 my system didn't not have the 9636... only the
>9652.
>> >> > i
>> >> > >was very happy with the setup.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >in december 05 i installed the 9636 which runs out to a rosetta
>800...
>> >> > >everyone gets clock from the big ben.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >everything worked like a frickin charm... i was stoked. pci bus
>jammed
>> >> > >packed.... ran like a frickin champ!
>> >> > >
>> >> > >around may 06, the temperature outside started warming up. when
the
>> >mobo
>> >> > >temp reached 28 C... the 9636 would not put out signal. i took
a
>uad-1
>> >> > out
>> >> > >to reduce the mobo temp... it helped but mobo would still reach
28
>> C...
>> >> > and
>> >> > >poof... 9636 goes silent.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >ADMITTEDLY.... there is alot of stuff on this pci bus... it may
just
>> be
>> >> > to
>> >> > >much with 3 uad's and 2 digi's. but with 2 uad-1's and 2 digi's?.
>> i
>> >am
>> >> > >ASSUMING heat was the reason the 9636 went silent.... because that
>> is
>> >the
>> >> > >only condition that seemed to make it work.... reduce temp.... it
>comes
>> >> > to
>> >> > >life.... increase temp.... its silent. the 9652 was has NEVER been
>> >> > >problematic.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >yes i tested the the 9636.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >i switched them around.... made the 52 a 36 and made the 36 a 52.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >nothing changed.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >i have tried every pci configuration with 2 uad-1's and the digi
>cards.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >can someone help?? maybe there is something i am missing in order
>> to
>> >get
>> >> > >these digi cards working together.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >thanks!
>> >> > >
>> >> > >jeremy
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>>
>>> ____________________________________________________________ ______________
>_
>> >> _
>> >> > >__________
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >OK.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Its fixed right now and seems to be as rock solid as it ever was.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Here is what i did.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >i switched around the i/o of the 9636 and 9652. Now the rosetta
800
>> >goes
>> >> > i/o
>> >> > >of the 9652 and 8 PARIS channels go i/o of the 9636.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Now everything in my setup gets clocked by a big ben. SO now the
>> >rosetta
>> >> > 800
>> >> > >is connected to a card that is getting clock... and the rosetta
is
>> >> getting
>> >> > >clock directly from the big ben.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >i setup a project with audio running through all the channels i
use
>> in
>> >a
>> >> > >mix. loaded up all 3 uad's. removed the fan that was blowing on
the
>> >mobo.
>> >> > >the temp got up to 36 C... NOT ONE DROP OUT.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >i am keeping my fingers crossed... but damn this looks fixed. COULD
>> >THIS
>> >> > >HAVE BEEN A CLOCK ISSUE ALL ALONG... and for some reason the extra
>> >> > >temperature of spring just triggered the problem????
>> >> > >
>> >> > >my a7n8x-e is RAWKIN again... i know this is an old board but
>damn...
>> >all
>> >> > 5
>> >> > >pci slots full... and it goes.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >what do you guys think?
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >p.s. i must credit DJ. i could have never posted this had he not
>> >> pioneered
>> >> > >the art of "the frustrated-my computer is fucked-let me run 1239586
>> >> channels
>> >> > >of lightpipe through 4 different computers clocked through a bnc
>cable
>> >> stuck
>> >> > >up my horses arss... and it works... ah fuck it i am mixing inside
>> >> PARIS!!"
>> >> > >
>> >> > >;-)
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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