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Effin' Verizon!!!!! [message #100016] Wed, 13 August 2008 15:49 Go to next message
Paul Braun is currently offline  Paul Braun   UNITED STATES
Messages: 391
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
I am soooo pissed off, I can't see straight.

About a month ago, Verizon decided to jump on the "Save the
Children!!!!" bandwagon and killed most of the usenet groups on their
news server, using as an excuse the old "well, there have been
examples of child porn on there".....

Yeah, right. If you're going to use that excuse, why carry the
internet at all, you idiots???

Oh, and they're also jumping on the "We have to stop piracy!!!"
bandwagon as well.

They've eliminated all but what's referred to as "The Big 8"
hierarchies, which means that all of the alt groups are gone, along
with a bunch of the other groups.

Roughly 90% of what I read. That means that I can no longer access
alt.audio.pro.live.sound. Yeah, that's saving the children.

I'm wiling to lay odds that Verizon won't reimburse me the $25 a month
I would have to pay a premium news service like Giganews to get back
the access I originally signed up for...

Bastards. Cowardly, greedy, stupid bastards. They're just using the
"rallying cries" as an excuse to cover up the fact that they're
jumping on the chance to cut the amount of servers they need to use
and the amount of bandwidth they have to supply.

And it's not just Verizon. I've been reading that the NY attorney
general has scared a lot of ISP's into killing usenet.

Just like the TSA and Homeland Security. "Fight the War on Global
Terrorism!!! " So, we have to strip naked and can't carry anything
larger than a shot glass full of shampoo when we go through the
airport. And they have the legal right to seize your laptop, cell
phone, cameras, camcorders, pda's, whatever can store data -- without
any real reason, just because they don't like you. And they can take
that stuff to an undisclosed location, hold it indefinitely, and you
can't do anything about getting it back. They just keep coming up
with more ways to make it impossible for us to travel or go anywhere,
all in the name of "Fighting Terrorism!!!"

I'm really starting to hate the world.

pab
Re: Effin' Verizon!!!!! [message #100018 is a reply to message #100016] Wed, 13 August 2008 16:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
Senior Member
That's ridiculous. Can you get a different ISP?

As for the rest, that's gotta change. Write your congresscritters and vote!

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com


Paul Braun wrote:
> I am soooo pissed off, I can't see straight.
>
> About a month ago, Verizon decided to jump on the "Save the
> Children!!!!" bandwagon and killed most of the usenet groups on their
> news server, using as an excuse the old "well, there have been
> examples of child porn on there".....
>
> Yeah, right. If you're going to use that excuse, why carry the
> internet at all, you idiots???
>
> Oh, and they're also jumping on the "We have to stop piracy!!!"
> bandwagon as well.
>
> They've eliminated all but what's referred to as "The Big 8"
> hierarchies, which means that all of the alt groups are gone, along
> with a bunch of the other groups.
>
> Roughly 90% of what I read. That means that I can no longer access
> alt.audio.pro.live.sound. Yeah, that's saving the children.
>
> I'm wiling to lay odds that Verizon won't reimburse me the $25 a month
> I would have to pay a premium news service like Giganews to get back
> the access I originally signed up for...
>
> Bastards. Cowardly, greedy, stupid bastards. They're just using the
> "rallying cries" as an excuse to cover up the fact that they're
> jumping on the chance to cut the amount of servers they need to use
> and the amount of bandwidth they have to supply.
>
> And it's not just Verizon. I've been reading that the NY attorney
> general has scared a lot of ISP's into killing usenet.
>
> Just like the TSA and Homeland Security. "Fight the War on Global
> Terrorism!!! " So, we have to strip naked and can't carry anything
> larger than a shot glass full of shampoo when we go through the
> airport. And they have the legal right to seize your laptop, cell
> phone, cameras, camcorders, pda's, whatever can store data -- without
> any real reason, just because they don't like you. And they can take
> that stuff to an undisclosed location, hold it indefinitely, and you
> can't do anything about getting it back. They just keep coming up
> with more ways to make it impossible for us to travel or go anywhere,
> all in the name of "Fighting Terrorism!!!"
>
> I'm really starting to hate the world.
>
> pab
Re: Effin' Verizon!!!!! [message #100022 is a reply to message #100016] Wed, 13 August 2008 20:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David L is currently offline  David L   UNITED STATES
Messages: 59
Registered: September 2007
Member
$25/month for Giganews? Try Forte's APN - $2.95/month. Much better deal...
Re: Effin' Verizon!!!!! [message #100027 is a reply to message #100016] Thu, 14 August 2008 06:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill L is currently offline  Bill L   UNITED STATES
Messages: 766
Registered: August 2006
Senior Member
OK, Paul, take a deep breath. Another. Another. OK, wait, don't pass out.

Now, right a letter to the CEO of Verizon and tell him/her exactly why
you are leaving their previously satisfactory service. Then find another
ISP.

Start loving the world.

Paul Braun wrote:
> I am soooo pissed off, I can't see straight.
>
> About a month ago, Verizon decided to jump on the "Save the
> Children!!!!" bandwagon and killed most of the usenet groups on their
> news server, using as an excuse the old "well, there have been
> examples of child porn on there".....
>
> Yeah, right. If you're going to use that excuse, why carry the
> internet at all, you idiots???
>
> Oh, and they're also jumping on the "We have to stop piracy!!!"
> bandwagon as well.
>
> They've eliminated all but what's referred to as "The Big 8"
> hierarchies, which means that all of the alt groups are gone, along
> with a bunch of the other groups.
>
> Roughly 90% of what I read. That means that I can no longer access
> alt.audio.pro.live.sound. Yeah, that's saving the children.
>
> I'm wiling to lay odds that Verizon won't reimburse me the $25 a month
> I would have to pay a premium news service like Giganews to get back
> the access I originally signed up for...
>
> Bastards. Cowardly, greedy, stupid bastards. They're just using the
> "rallying cries" as an excuse to cover up the fact that they're
> jumping on the chance to cut the amount of servers they need to use
> and the amount of bandwidth they have to supply.
>
> And it's not just Verizon. I've been reading that the NY attorney
> general has scared a lot of ISP's into killing usenet.
>
> Just like the TSA and Homeland Security. "Fight the War on Global
> Terrorism!!! " So, we have to strip naked and can't carry anything
> larger than a shot glass full of shampoo when we go through the
> airport. And they have the legal right to seize your laptop, cell
> phone, cameras, camcorders, pda's, whatever can store data -- without
> any real reason, just because they don't like you. And they can take
> that stuff to an undisclosed location, hold it indefinitely, and you
> can't do anything about getting it back. They just keep coming up
> with more ways to make it impossible for us to travel or go anywhere,
> all in the name of "Fighting Terrorism!!!"
>
> I'm really starting to hate the world.
>
> pab
Re: Effin' Verizon!!!!! [message #100028 is a reply to message #100016] Thu, 14 August 2008 10:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
xpam_mark is currently offline  xpam_mark   UNITED STATES
Messages: 126
Registered: March 2007
Senior Member
Rejoice Paul, for while it is true that you may not carry a jello pudding
pop through the TSA lines at the airport, you can still get through with a
santa-sized bag of electronic circuits of completely unknown origin and
functionality and then board any commercial aircraft you'd like... without
question.... just be sure to turn them all off during take-off and landing.

W. Mark Wilson

"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
news:6jo6a4djiohod6nflam5qg44e63avi5dbf@4ax.com...
>I am soooo pissed off, I can't see straight.
>
> About a month ago, Verizon decided to jump on the "Save the
> Children!!!!" bandwagon and killed most of the usenet groups on their
> news server, using as an excuse the old "well, there have been
> examples of child porn on there".....
>
> Yeah, right. If you're going to use that excuse, why carry the
> internet at all, you idiots???
>
> Oh, and they're also jumping on the "We have to stop piracy!!!"
> bandwagon as well.
>
> They've eliminated all but what's referred to as "The Big 8"
> hierarchies, which means that all of the alt groups are gone, along
> with a bunch of the other groups.
>
> Roughly 90% of what I read. That means that I can no longer access
> alt.audio.pro.live.sound. Yeah, that's saving the children.
>
> I'm wiling to lay odds that Verizon won't reimburse me the $25 a month
> I would have to pay a premium news service like Giganews to get back
> the access I originally signed up for...
>
> Bastards. Cowardly, greedy, stupid bastards. They're just using the
> "rallying cries" as an excuse to cover up the fact that they're
> jumping on the chance to cut the amount of servers they need to use
> and the amount of bandwidth they have to supply.
>
> And it's not just Verizon. I've been reading that the NY attorney
> general has scared a lot of ISP's into killing usenet.
>
> Just like the TSA and Homeland Security. "Fight the War on Global
> Terrorism!!! " So, we have to strip naked and can't carry anything
> larger than a shot glass full of shampoo when we go through the
> airport. And they have the legal right to seize your laptop, cell
> phone, cameras, camcorders, pda's, whatever can store data -- without
> any real reason, just because they don't like you. And they can take
> that stuff to an undisclosed location, hold it indefinitely, and you
> can't do anything about getting it back. They just keep coming up
> with more ways to make it impossible for us to travel or go anywhere,
> all in the name of "Fighting Terrorism!!!"
>
> I'm really starting to hate the world.
>
> pab
Re: Effin' Verizon!!!!! [message #100052 is a reply to message #100028] Mon, 18 August 2008 09:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chuck duffy is currently offline  chuck duffy
Messages: 453
Registered: July 2005
Senior Member
It's true! I've done it. While I was working on a TSA project a few years
back, I went through security with a bag containing a black box (literally)
with one red switch on it, eight optical cables coming out of it and eight
optical motion sensors on the ends. We called it the octopus.

When they asked me what it was, I told them it was a prototype sensor system
for integration with an EDS machine. When they asked me what an EDS machine
is, I told them "the thing that just scanned my luggage and found the thing
you are holding!!!!"

Chuck



"W. Mark Wilson" <xpam_mark@avidrecording> wrote:
>Rejoice Paul, for while it is true that you may not carry a jello pudding

>pop through the TSA lines at the airport, you can still get through with
a
>santa-sized bag of electronic circuits of completely unknown origin and

>functionality and then board any commercial aircraft you'd like... without

>question.... just be sure to turn them all off during take-off and landing.
>
>W. Mark Wilson
>
>"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
>news:6jo6a4djiohod6nflam5qg44e63avi5dbf@4ax.com...
>>I am soooo pissed off, I can't see straight.
>>
>> About a month ago, Verizon decided to jump on the "Save the
>> Children!!!!" bandwagon and killed most of the usenet groups on their
>> news server, using as an excuse the old "well, there have been
>> examples of child porn on there".....
>>
>> Yeah, right. If you're going to use that excuse, why carry the
>> internet at all, you idiots???
>>
>> Oh, and they're also jumping on the "We have to stop piracy!!!"
>> bandwagon as well.
>>
>> They've eliminated all but what's referred to as "The Big 8"
>> hierarchies, which means that all of the alt groups are gone, along
>> with a bunch of the other groups.
>>
>> Roughly 90% of what I read. That means that I can no longer access
>> alt.audio.pro.live.sound. Yeah, that's saving the children.
>>
>> I'm wiling to lay odds that Verizon won't reimburse me the $25 a month
>> I would have to pay a premium news service like Giganews to get back
>> the access I originally signed up for...
>>
>> Bastards. Cowardly, greedy, stupid bastards. They're just using the
>> "rallying cries" as an excuse to cover up the fact that they're
>> jumping on the chance to cut the amount of servers they need to use
>> and the amount of bandwidth they have to supply.
>>
>> And it's not just Verizon. I've been reading that the NY attorney
>> general has scared a lot of ISP's into killing usenet.
>>
>> Just like the TSA and Homeland Security. "Fight the War on Global
>> Terrorism!!! " So, we have to strip naked and can't carry anything
>> larger than a shot glass full of shampoo when we go through the
>> airport. And they have the legal right to seize your laptop, cell
>> phone, cameras, camcorders, pda's, whatever can store data -- without
>> any real reason, just because they don't like you. And they can take
>> that stuff to an undisclosed location, hold it indefinitely, and you
>> can't do anything about getting it back. They just keep coming up
>> with more ways to make it impossible for us to travel or go anywhere,
>> all in the name of "Fighting Terrorism!!!"
>>
>> I'm really starting to hate the world.
>>
>> pab
>
>
Re: Effin' Verizon!!!!! [message #100055 is a reply to message #100052] Mon, 18 August 2008 11:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ed is currently offline  Ed
Messages: 199
Registered: February 2006
Senior Member
ahahahahahah! That's funny! And I assumed they didn't take it! Although
they've taken many of my small butane (harmless) lighters and my precious
nose hair cutter scissors... Day's Mean! And this was in Tampa after flying
through 2 other American airports and crossing the International Date Line
because I was coming from Japan...



"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>
>It's true! I've done it. While I was working on a TSA project a few years
>back, I went through security with a bag containing a black box (literally)
>with one red switch on it, eight optical cables coming out of it and eight
>optical motion sensors on the ends. We called it the octopus.
>
>When they asked me what it was, I told them it was a prototype sensor system
>for integration with an EDS machine. When they asked me what an EDS machine
>is, I told them "the thing that just scanned my luggage and found the thing
>you are holding!!!!"
>
>Chuck
>
>
>
>"W. Mark Wilson" <xpam_mark@avidrecording> wrote:
>>Rejoice Paul, for while it is true that you may not carry a jello pudding
>
>>pop through the TSA lines at the airport, you can still get through with
>a
>>santa-sized bag of electronic circuits of completely unknown origin and
>
>>functionality and then board any commercial aircraft you'd like... without
>
>>question.... just be sure to turn them all off during take-off and landing.
>>
>>W. Mark Wilson
>>
>>"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
>>news:6jo6a4djiohod6nflam5qg44e63avi5dbf@4ax.com...
>>>I am soooo pissed off, I can't see straight.
>>>
>>> About a month ago, Verizon decided to jump on the "Save the
>>> Children!!!!" bandwagon and killed most of the usenet groups on their
>>> news server, using as an excuse the old "well, there have been
>>> examples of child porn on there".....
>>>
>>> Yeah, right. If you're going to use that excuse, why carry the
>>> internet at all, you idiots???
>>>
>>> Oh, and they're also jumping on the "We have to stop piracy!!!"
>>> bandwagon as well.
>>>
>>> They've eliminated all but what's referred to as "The Big 8"
>>> hierarchies, which means that all of the alt groups are gone, along
>>> with a bunch of the other groups.
>>>
>>> Roughly 90% of what I read. That means that I can no longer access
>>> alt.audio.pro.live.sound. Yeah, that's saving the children.
>>>
>>> I'm wiling to lay odds that Verizon won't reimburse me the $25 a month
>>> I would have to pay a premium news service like Giganews to get back
>>> the access I originally signed up for...
>>>
>>> Bastards. Cowardly, greedy, stupid bastards. They're just using the
>>> "rallying cries" as an excuse to cover up the fact that they're
>>> jumping on the chance to cut the amount of servers they need to use
>>> and the amount of bandwidth they have to supply.
>>>
>>> And it's not just Verizon. I've been reading that the NY attorney
>>> general has scared a lot of ISP's into killing usenet.
>>>
>>> Just like the TSA and Homeland Security. "Fight the War on Global
>>> Terrorism!!! " So, we have to strip naked and can't carry anything
>>> larger than a shot glass full of shampoo when we go through the
>>> airport. And they have the legal right to seize your laptop, cell
>>> phone, cameras, camcorders, pda's, whatever can store data -- without
>>> any real reason, just because they don't like you. And they can take
>>> that stuff to an undisclosed location, hold it indefinitely, and you
>>> can't do anything about getting it back. They just keep coming up
>>> with more ways to make it impossible for us to travel or go anywhere,
>>> all in the name of "Fighting Terrorism!!!"
>>>
>>> I'm really starting to hate the world.
>>>
>>> pab
>>
>>
>
Re: Effin' Verizon!!!!! [message #100068 is a reply to message #100052] Wed, 20 August 2008 01:58 Go to previous message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
Senior Member
too funny...but they wouldn't let an 85 yr. old grandmother through
because of her wheelchair.

On 19 Aug 2008 02:22:35 +1000, "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:

>
>It's true! I've done it. While I was working on a TSA project a few years
>back, I went through security with a bag containing a black box (literally)
>with one red switch on it, eight optical cables coming out of it and eight
>optical motion sensors on the ends. We called it the octopus.
>
>When they asked me what it was, I told them it was a prototype sensor system
>for integration with an EDS machine. When they asked me what an EDS machine
>is, I told them "the thing that just scanned my luggage and found the thing
>you are holding!!!!"
>
>Chuck
>
>
>
>"W. Mark Wilson" <xpam_mark@avidrecording> wrote:
>>Rejoice Paul, for while it is true that you may not carry a jello pudding
>
>>pop through the TSA lines at the airport, you can still get through with
>a
>>santa-sized bag of electronic circuits of completely unknown origin and
>
>>functionality and then board any commercial aircraft you'd like... without
>
>>question.... just be sure to turn them all off during take-off and landing.
>>
>>W. Mark Wilson
>>
>>"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
>>news:6jo6a4djiohod6nflam5qg44e63avi5dbf@4ax.com...
>>>I am soooo pissed off, I can't see straight.
>>>
>>> About a month ago, Verizon decided to jump on the "Save the
>>> Children!!!!" bandwagon and killed most of the usenet groups on their
>>> news server, using as an excuse the old "well, there have been
>>> examples of child porn on there".....
>>>
>>> Yeah, right. If you're going to use that excuse, why carry the
>>> internet at all, you idiots???
>>>
>>> Oh, and they're also jumping on the "We have to stop piracy!!!"
>>> bandwagon as well.
>>>
>>> They've eliminated all but what's referred to as "The Big 8"
>>> hierarchies, which means that all of the alt groups are gone, along
>>> with a bunch of the other groups.
>>>
>>> Roughly 90% of what I read. That means that I can no longer access
>>> alt.audio.pro.live.sound. Yeah, that's saving the children.
>>>
>>> I'm wiling to lay odds that Verizon won't reimburse me the $25 a month
>>> I would have to pay a premium news service like Giganews to get back
>>> the access I originally signed up for...
>>>
>>> Bastards. Cowardly, greedy, stupid bastards. They're just using the
>>> "rallying cries" as an excuse to cover up the fact that they're
>>> jumping on the chance to cut the amount of servers they need to use
>>> and the amount of bandwidth they have to supply.
>>>
>>> And it's not just Verizon. I've been reading that the NY attorney
>>> general has scared a lot of ISP's into killing usenet.
>>>
>>> Just like the TSA and Homeland Security. "Fight the War on Global
>>> Terrorism!!! " So, we have to strip naked and can't carry anything
>>> larger than a shot glass full of shampoo when we go through the
>>> airport. And they have the legal right to seize your laptop, cell
>>> phone, cameras, camcorders, pda's, whatever can store data -- without
>>> any real reason, just because they don't like you. And they can take
>>> that stuff to an undisclosed location, hold it indefinitely, and you
>>> can't do anything about getting it back. They just keep coming up
>>> with more ways to make it impossible for us to travel or go anywhere,
>>> all in the name of "Fighting Terrorism!!!"
>>>
>>> I'm really starting to hate the world.
>>>
>>> pab
>>
>>
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