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Tue, 10 October 2006 08:29

Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/macworld/20061009/tc_macworld/spamha us20061009_0

Brilliant. I guess spammers and email marketing companies have more rights
than consumers. Yet again, individual/corporate rights supercede any sense
of ethics. Interesting that the US leads the world in spam by about 3 to
1, and we have yet to see any effective legislation or real effort put into
stopping it.

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Re: US court ruling good news for spammers [message #73793 is a reply to message #73792]

Tue, 10 October 2006 09:36

animix

Messages: 356
Registered: September 2006

Senior Member

I think there should be a bounty on these guys.
;o)

"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
news:C1511866.423E%dterry@keyofd.net...
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/macworld/20061009/tc_macworld/spamha us20061009_0
>
> Brilliant. I guess spammers and email marketing companies have more
rights
> than consumers. Yet again, individual/corporate rights supercede any
sense
> of ethics. Interesting that the US leads the world in spam by about 3 to
> 1, and we have yet to see any effective legislation or real effort put
into
> stopping it.
>

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Re: OT: US court ruling good news for spammers [message #73795 is a reply to message #73792]

Tue, 10 October 2006 11:17

rick

Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006

Senior Member

for 6 years i had not received more than 3 spams on my (seldom used)
yahoo account...and now i get 200 a day. at least hotmail has stayed
the same as it was.

On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:29:10 -0600, Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net>
wrote:

> http://news.yahoo.com/s/macworld/20061009/tc_macworld/spamha us20061009_0
>
>Brilliant. I guess spammers and email marketing companies have more rights
>than consumers. Yet again, individual/corporate rights supercede any sense
>of ethics. Interesting that the US leads the world in spam by about 3 to
>1, and we have yet to see any effective legislation or real effort put into
>stopping it.

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Re: OT: US court ruling good news for spammers [message #73796 is a reply to message #73795]

Tue, 10 October 2006 11:31

animix

Messages: 356
Registered: September 2006

Senior Member

..........the more spam I get, the better I understand the motivations behind
why the mafia became a means of achieving justice within a population that
felt disenfranchised by the entrenched political power structure.

"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dqoni2551u7na55n3au299t15e4tiqgum0@4ax.com...
> for 6 years i had not received more than 3 spams on my (seldom used)
> yahoo account...and now i get 200 a day. at least hotmail has stayed
> the same as it was.
>
> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:29:10 -0600, Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net>
> wrote:
>
> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/macworld/20061009/tc_macworld/spamha us20061009_0
> >
> >Brilliant. I guess spammers and email marketing companies have more
rights
> >than consumers. Yet again, individual/corporate rights supercede any
sense
> >of ethics. Interesting that the US leads the world in spam by about 3
to
> >1, and we have yet to see any effective legislation or real effort put
into
> >stopping it.
>

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Re: OT: US court ruling good news for spammers [message #73798 is a reply to message #73796]

Tue, 10 October 2006 12:24

Jamie K

Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006

Senior Member

Until the mafia becomes the entrenched political power structure...

Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com

DJ wrote:
> .........the more spam I get, the better I understand the motivations behind
> why the mafia became a means of achieving justice within a population that
> felt disenfranchised by the entrenched political power structure.
>
> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:dqoni2551u7na55n3au299t15e4tiqgum0@4ax.com...
>> for 6 years i had not received more than 3 spams on my (seldom used)
>> yahoo account...and now i get 200 a day. at least hotmail has stayed
>> the same as it was.
>>
>> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:29:10 -0600, Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/macworld/20061009/tc_macworld/spamha us20061009_0
>>>
>>> Brilliant. I guess spammers and email marketing companies have more
> rights
>>> than consumers. Yet again, individual/corporate rights supercede any
> sense
>>> of ethics. Interesting that the US leads the world in spam by about 3
> to
>>> 1, and we have yet to see any effective legislation or real effort put
> into
>>> stopping it.
>
>

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Re: OT: US court ruling good news for spammers [message #73800 is a reply to message #73798]

Tue, 10 October 2006 12:42

animix

Messages: 356
Registered: September 2006

Senior Member

.........well.....yeah.........there's always that.......

damn!

:oD

"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:452bf150$1@linux...
>
> Until the mafia becomes the entrenched political power structure...
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> DJ wrote:
> > .........the more spam I get, the better I understand the motivations
behind
> > why the mafia became a means of achieving justice within a population
that
> > felt disenfranchised by the entrenched political power structure.
> >
> > "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:dqoni2551u7na55n3au299t15e4tiqgum0@4ax.com...
> >> for 6 years i had not received more than 3 spams on my (seldom used)
> >> yahoo account...and now i get 200 a day. at least hotmail has stayed
> >> the same as it was.
> >>
> >> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:29:10 -0600, Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
http://news.yahoo.com/s/macworld/20061009/tc_macworld/spamha us20061009_0
> >>>
> >>> Brilliant. I guess spammers and email marketing companies have more
> > rights
> >>> than consumers. Yet again, individual/corporate rights supercede any
> > sense
> >>> of ethics. Interesting that the US leads the world in spam by about
3
> > to
> >>> 1, and we have yet to see any effective legislation or real effort put
> > into
> >>> stopping it.
> >
> >

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Re: OT: US court ruling good news for spammers [message #73816 is a reply to message #73795]

Tue, 10 October 2006 21:19

Aaron Allen

Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008

Senior Member

one word my friend.

GMAIL

AA

"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dqoni2551u7na55n3au299t15e4tiqgum0@4ax.com...
> for 6 years i had not received more than 3 spams on my (seldom used)
> yahoo account...and now i get 200 a day. at least hotmail has stayed
> the same as it was.
>
> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:29:10 -0600, Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net>
> wrote:
>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/macworld/20061009/tc_macworld/spamha us20061009_0
>>
>>Brilliant. I guess spammers and email marketing companies have more
>>rights
>>than consumers. Yet again, individual/corporate rights supercede any
>>sense
>>of ethics. Interesting that the US leads the world in spam by about 3 to
>>1, and we have yet to see any effective legislation or real effort put
>>into
>>stopping it.
>

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Re: OT: US court ruling good news for spammers [message #73825 is a reply to message #73816]

Wed, 11 October 2006 01:56

rick

Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006

Senior Member

i think i'm getting too old to think of another clever name and
password to open another account...

On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 23:19:23 -0500, "Aaron Allen"
<know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:

>one word my friend.
>
>GMAIL
>
>
>AA
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:dqoni2551u7na55n3au299t15e4tiqgum0@4ax.com...
>> for 6 years i had not received more than 3 spams on my (seldom used)
>> yahoo account...and now i get 200 a day. at least hotmail has stayed
>> the same as it was.
>>
>> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:29:10 -0600, Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/macworld/20061009/tc_macworld/spamha us20061009_0
>>>
>>>Brilliant. I guess spammers and email marketing companies have more
>>>rights
>>>than consumers. Yet again, individual/corporate rights supercede any
>>>sense
>>>of ethics. Interesting that the US leads the world in spam by about 3 to
>>>1, and we have yet to see any effective legislation or real effort put
>>>into
>>>stopping it.
>>
>

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Re: OT: US court ruling good news for spammers [message #73836 is a reply to message #73792]

Wed, 11 October 2006 06:28

TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007

Senior Member

This really is more of a pissing match than anything else, and won't really
effect anyone. The Spamhaus guys say (I think correctly) that the Illinois
court has no jurisdiction to make the order and refused to contest it. So
the judge didn't have a lot of options.

Also, there are other ways to get spam blacklists, including other ways to
get the Spamhaus list. Trust me, if my spam trap suddenly quits working 'There's
this court case in Illinois' is not going to cut it with the powers that
be in my office.

TCB

Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/macworld/20061009/tc_macworld/spamha us20061009_0
>
>Brilliant. I guess spammers and email marketing companies have more rights
>than consumers. Yet again, individual/corporate rights supercede any sense
>of ethics. Interesting that the US leads the world in spam by about 3
to
>1, and we have yet to see any effective legislation or real effort put into
>stopping it.
>

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Re: OT: US court ruling good news for spammers [message #73843 is a reply to message #73836]

Wed, 11 October 2006 09:10

animix

Messages: 356
Registered: September 2006

Senior Member

I think it would be cool to just go out and find some spammers and make
examples of them by stripping them naked and throwing them in a pit full of
man eating pigs and post the vid on UTube

...........uhhhh.......sorry....long night.........where's my coffee?

;oP

"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:452cf17b$1@linux...
>
> This really is more of a pissing match than anything else, and won't
really
> effect anyone. The Spamhaus guys say (I think correctly) that the Illinois
> court has no jurisdiction to make the order and refused to contest it. So
> the judge didn't have a lot of options.
>
> Also, there are other ways to get spam blacklists, including other ways to
> get the Spamhaus list. Trust me, if my spam trap suddenly quits working
'There's
> this court case in Illinois' is not going to cut it with the powers that
> be in my office.
>
> TCB
>
> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/macworld/20061009/tc_macworld/spamha us20061009_0
> >
> >Brilliant. I guess spammers and email marketing companies have more
rights
> >than consumers. Yet again, individual/corporate rights supercede any
sense
> >of ethics. Interesting that the US leads the world in spam by about 3
> to
> >1, and we have yet to see any effective legislation or real effort put
into
> >stopping it.
> >
>

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Re: OT: US court ruling good news for spammers [message #73856 is a reply to message #73843]

Wed, 11 October 2006 13:37

TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007

Senior Member

Maybe it's because I do what I do for a living, but email spam bothers me
far less than junk mail or phone telemarketing. Our spam trap works well
enough we get close to zero false positives and maybe 10 spams through in
a day. The false positives is a huge one. We're down to getting maybe 1 per
month in the spam trap that shouldn't be there. I get hundreds of emails
through three addresses every day as well.

But it is annoying, yes.

TCB

"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>I think it would be cool to just go out and find some spammers and make
>examples of them by stripping them naked and throwing them in a pit full
of
>man eating pigs and post the vid on UTube
>
>..........uhhhh.......sorry....long night.........where's my coffee?
>
>;oP
>
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:452cf17b$1@linux...
>>
>> This really is more of a pissing match than anything else, and won't
>really
>> effect anyone. The Spamhaus guys say (I think correctly) that the Illinois
>> court has no jurisdiction to make the order and refused to contest it.
So
>> the judge didn't have a lot of options.
>>
>> Also, there are other ways to get spam blacklists, including other ways
to
>> get the Spamhaus list. Trust me, if my spam trap suddenly quits working
>'There's
>> this court case in Illinois' is not going to cut it with the powers that
>> be in my office.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/macworld/20061009/tc_macworld/spamha us20061009_0
>> >
>> >Brilliant. I guess spammers and email marketing companies have more
>rights
>> >than consumers. Yet again, individual/corporate rights supercede any
>sense
>> >of ethics. Interesting that the US leads the world in spam by about
3
>> to
>> >1, and we have yet to see any effective legislation or real effort put
>into
>> >stopping it.
>> >
>>
>
>

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Re: OT: US court ruling good news for spammers [message #73875 is a reply to message #73843]

Wed, 11 October 2006 18:31

Paul Artola

Messages: 161
Registered: November 2005

Senior Member

Sorry to burst your bubble, but this is actually a recruiting tool for
future spammers!

- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland

On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 10:10:35 -0600, "DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:

>I think it would be cool to just go out and find some spammers and make
>examples of them by stripping them naked and throwing them in a pit full of
>man eating pigs and post the vid on UTube
>
>..........uhhhh.......sorry....long night.........where's my coffee?
>
>;oP
>

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Re: OT: US court ruling good news for spammers [message #73888 is a reply to message #73836]

Wed, 11 October 2006 21:58

Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007

Senior Member

I hope you are right. I assume the court is just blowing smoke (why I really
don't understand), unless they can get ICANN to comply and force the ruling
by proxy (which, imho, shouldn't be a legal approach).

Dedric

On 10/11/06 7:28 AM, in article 452cf17b$1@linux, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com>
wrote:

>
> This really is more of a pissing match than anything else, and won't really
> effect anyone. The Spamhaus guys say (I think correctly) that the Illinois
> court has no jurisdiction to make the order and refused to contest it. So
> the judge didn't have a lot of options.
>
> Also, there are other ways to get spam blacklists, including other ways to
> get the Spamhaus list. Trust me, if my spam trap suddenly quits working
> 'There's
> this court case in Illinois' is not going to cut it with the powers that
> be in my office.
>
> TCB
>
> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/macworld/20061009/tc_macworld/spamha us20061009_0
>>
>> Brilliant. I guess spammers and email marketing companies have more rights
>> than consumers. Yet again, individual/corporate rights supercede any sense
>> of ethics. Interesting that the US leads the world in spam by about 3
> to
>> 1, and we have yet to see any effective legislation or real effort put into
>> stopping it.
>>
>

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