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Set up advice . . . [message #100825] |
Fri, 31 October 2008 01:03 |
Sarah
Messages: 608 Registered: February 2007
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Hiya fellas! And gals!
Hey, the house I lived in for 12 years with the PARIS studio in it has
been sold, and I had to move out. Waaaa! BUT . . . the owner let me take
all the recording gear with me cuz he doesn't know how to use it anyway and
thinks it's too old. Yay! BUT . . . I don't really have a studio anymore,
at least not with the nice separate control room with the little window,
etc. I just have a big old finished basement with a strange little room
attached. The space is mostly carpeted, except for about the last 8 of the
32 foot length, which is linoleum. Low ceiling w/ ceiling tiles (8'? maybe
even 7')
I attached a crude diagram of the space that I drew in Photoshop in
hopes of getting some opinions on how best to set up the studio and what to
do with that little room. (Yeah, I know, I used the " inches symbol instead
of the ' foot symbol, but no, it's not a doll house. Just translate to feet
please.) Vocal/drum booth? Machine room? Hookah lounge? Do I need to
barter with some carpenter/songwriter to build me a wall for a separate
control room? Also, what about cheap sound-proofing? I have a bunch of
Auralex bass traps and a few panels, but not enough for the whole space.
Anyway, I need to get set up soon as I can, cuz we had to dismantle the
studio right in the middle of the rhythm tracks for the new Sarahtonin CD,
which is promising to be even better than the first, if that's possible. :)
Thanks in advance for your cogitations.
Humbly yours,
Sarahtonin
PS: Happy Halloween!
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Re: Set up advice . . . [message #100827 is a reply to message #100825] |
Fri, 31 October 2008 02:49 |
Don Nafe
Messages: 1206 Registered: July 2005
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Couple of questions
1) what instruments will you be tracking?
1a) Do you record many at one time?
2) what kind of budget do you have?
3) are you allowed to move that existing wall?
4) how noisy is that furnace?
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:490ac00e@linux...
> Hiya fellas! And gals!
>
> Hey, the house I lived in for 12 years with the PARIS studio in it has
> been sold, and I had to move out. Waaaa! BUT . . . the owner let me take
> all the recording gear with me cuz he doesn't know how to use it anyway
> and thinks it's too old. Yay! BUT . . . I don't really have a studio
> anymore, at least not with the nice separate control room with the little
> window, etc. I just have a big old finished basement with a strange
> little room attached. The space is mostly carpeted, except for about the
> last 8 of the 32 foot length, which is linoleum. Low ceiling w/ ceiling
> tiles (8'? maybe even 7')
>
> I attached a crude diagram of the space that I drew in Photoshop in
> hopes of getting some opinions on how best to set up the studio and what
> to do with that little room. (Yeah, I know, I used the " inches symbol
> instead of the ' foot symbol, but no, it's not a doll house. Just
> translate to feet please.) Vocal/drum booth? Machine room? Hookah
> lounge? Do I need to barter with some carpenter/songwriter to build me a
> wall for a separate control room? Also, what about cheap sound-proofing?
> I have a bunch of Auralex bass traps and a few panels, but not enough for
> the whole space.
>
>
> Anyway, I need to get set up soon as I can, cuz we had to dismantle the
> studio right in the middle of the rhythm tracks for the new Sarahtonin CD,
> which is promising to be even better than the first, if that's possible.
> :)
>
> Thanks in advance for your cogitations.
>
> Humbly yours,
>
> Sarahtonin
>
> PS: Happy Halloween!
>
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Re: Set up advice . . . [message #100828 is a reply to message #100827] |
Fri, 31 October 2008 03:52 |
Sarah
Messages: 608 Registered: February 2007
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Good questions . . .
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:490ad880@linux...
> Couple of questions
>
> 1) what instruments will you be tracking?
>
> 1a) Do you record many at one time?
Drums w/ bass guitar going direct, sometimes w/ keys, also direct.
Everything else (guitars, vocals, flute, violin, bassoon, etc) recorded
individually.
>
> 2) what kind of budget do you have?
Budget? Uh . . . does that mean money? I work as an RN . . .
sometimes I have a couple hundred left out of a paycheck.
>
> 3) are you allowed to move that existing wall?
I haven't talked to the new landlords abt any major modifications,
but as long as they're not paying for it, they might not object.
>
> 4) how noisy is that furnace?
It's an oil furnace, kind of a dull roar when the fan is going,
otherwise not quiet. Actually louder upstairs than down. Haven't measured
decibels. :)
>
>
>
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> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:490ac00e@linux...
>> Hiya fellas! And gals!
>>
>> Hey, the house I lived in for 12 years with the PARIS studio in it has
>> been sold, and I had to move out. Waaaa! BUT . . . the owner let me
>> take all the recording gear with me cuz he doesn't know how to use it
>> anyway and thinks it's too old. Yay! BUT . . . I don't really have a
>> studio anymore, at least not with the nice separate control room with the
>> little window, etc. I just have a big old finished basement with a
>> strange little room attached. The space is mostly carpeted, except for
>> about the last 8 of the 32 foot length, which is linoleum. Low ceiling
>> w/ ceiling tiles (8'? maybe even 7')
>>
>> I attached a crude diagram of the space that I drew in Photoshop in
>> hopes of getting some opinions on how best to set up the studio and what
>> to do with that little room. (Yeah, I know, I used the " inches symbol
>> instead of the ' foot symbol, but no, it's not a doll house. Just
>> translate to feet please.) Vocal/drum booth? Machine room? Hookah
>> lounge? Do I need to barter with some carpenter/songwriter to build me a
>> wall for a separate control room? Also, what about cheap sound-proofing?
>> I have a bunch of Auralex bass traps and a few panels, but not enough for
>> the whole space.
>>
>>
>> Anyway, I need to get set up soon as I can, cuz we had to dismantle
>> the studio right in the middle of the rhythm tracks for the new
>> Sarahtonin CD, which is promising to be even better than the first, if
>> that's possible. :)
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your cogitations.
>>
>> Humbly yours,
>>
>> Sarahtonin
>>
>> PS: Happy Halloween!
>>
>>
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Re: Set up advice . . . [message #100830 is a reply to message #100825] |
Fri, 31 October 2008 05:34 |
Robert
Messages: 127 Registered: May 2007
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Hi Sarah
What you could do is use that small room as a machine room and access hall
to the ctrl room. That center partition must be a supporting partition of 2'
x 6" for the floor above so you cant really mess with it to much but you
should be able to add a couple openings with headers for the 2 doors. Then
that furnace area needs attention for sure, dbl wall with insulation, RC
channel and 5/8" drywall rite from floor to floor above, sealed tight. I
attached a jpg of my ideas.
That is probably what I would do in your position Sarah.
Good luck and keep us posted.
Rob
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:490ac00e@linux...
> Hiya fellas! And gals!
>
> Hey, the house I lived in for 12 years with the PARIS studio in it has
> been sold, and I had to move out. Waaaa! BUT . . . the owner let me take
> all the recording gear with me cuz he doesn't know how to use it anyway
> and
> thinks it's too old. Yay! BUT . . . I don't really have a studio
> anymore,
> at least not with the nice separate control room with the little window,
> etc. I just have a big old finished basement with a strange little room
> attached. The space is mostly carpeted, except for about the last 8 of
> the
> 32 foot length, which is linoleum. Low ceiling w/ ceiling tiles (8'?
> maybe
> even 7')
>
> I attached a crude diagram of the space that I drew in Photoshop in
> hopes of getting some opinions on how best to set up the studio and what
> to
> do with that little room. (Yeah, I know, I used the " inches symbol
> instead
> of the ' foot symbol, but no, it's not a doll house. Just translate to
> feet
> please.) Vocal/drum booth? Machine room? Hookah lounge? Do I need to
> barter with some carpenter/songwriter to build me a wall for a separate
> control room? Also, what about cheap sound-proofing? I have a bunch of
> Auralex bass traps and a few panels, but not enough for the whole space.
>
>
> Anyway, I need to get set up soon as I can, cuz we had to dismantle the
> studio right in the middle of the rhythm tracks for the new Sarahtonin CD,
> which is promising to be even better than the first, if that's possible.
> :)
>
> Thanks in advance for your cogitations.
>
> Humbly yours,
>
> Sarahtonin
>
> PS: Happy Halloween!
>
>
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Re: Set up advice . . . [message #100831 is a reply to message #100830] |
Fri, 31 October 2008 06:01 |
Don Nafe
Messages: 1206 Registered: July 2005
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Using Rob's JPG as a template I'd put my mixing area along the far short
wall of the small room...better acoustic properties and you could use the
walk around room as a bass trap.
As for sound treatment Owens Corning 703 wrapped in fabric and hung on the
walls and placed in the corners of both rooms...this will probably be your
single biggest expense but best bang for your buck in terms of treatment.
"Rob Arsenault" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote in message
news:490aff91@linux...
> Hi Sarah
> What you could do is use that small room as a machine room and access hall
> to the ctrl room. That center partition must be a supporting partition of
> 2' x 6" for the floor above so you cant really mess with it to much but
> you should be able to add a couple openings with headers for the 2 doors.
> Then that furnace area needs attention for sure, dbl wall with insulation,
> RC channel and 5/8" drywall rite from floor to floor above, sealed tight.
> I attached a jpg of my ideas.
> That is probably what I would do in your position Sarah.
> Good luck and keep us posted.
>
> Rob
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:490ac00e@linux...
>> Hiya fellas! And gals!
>>
>> Hey, the house I lived in for 12 years with the PARIS studio in it has
>> been sold, and I had to move out. Waaaa! BUT . . . the owner let me
>> take
>> all the recording gear with me cuz he doesn't know how to use it anyway
>> and
>> thinks it's too old. Yay! BUT . . . I don't really have a studio
>> anymore,
>> at least not with the nice separate control room with the little window,
>> etc. I just have a big old finished basement with a strange little room
>> attached. The space is mostly carpeted, except for about the last 8 of
>> the
>> 32 foot length, which is linoleum. Low ceiling w/ ceiling tiles (8'?
>> maybe
>> even 7')
>>
>> I attached a crude diagram of the space that I drew in Photoshop in
>> hopes of getting some opinions on how best to set up the studio and what
>> to
>> do with that little room. (Yeah, I know, I used the " inches symbol
>> instead
>> of the ' foot symbol, but no, it's not a doll house. Just translate to
>> feet
>> please.) Vocal/drum booth? Machine room? Hookah lounge? Do I need to
>> barter with some carpenter/songwriter to build me a wall for a separate
>> control room? Also, what about cheap sound-proofing? I have a bunch of
>> Auralex bass traps and a few panels, but not enough for the whole space.
>>
>>
>> Anyway, I need to get set up soon as I can, cuz we had to dismantle
>> the
>> studio right in the middle of the rhythm tracks for the new Sarahtonin
>> CD,
>> which is promising to be even better than the first, if that's possible.
>> :)
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your cogitations.
>>
>> Humbly yours,
>>
>> Sarahtonin
>>
>> PS: Happy Halloween!
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Set up advice . . . [message #100833 is a reply to message #100831] |
Fri, 31 October 2008 07:06 |
Robert
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Don, did you find any OC703 out your way, I'm having a hell of a time
finding some out East. I am planning on going with that Rockwool stuff from
Roxul, according to Ethan, it is very similar.
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:490b0596@linux...
> Using Rob's JPG as a template I'd put my mixing area along the far short
> wall of the small room...better acoustic properties and you could use the
> walk around room as a bass trap.
>
> As for sound treatment Owens Corning 703 wrapped in fabric and hung on
> the walls and placed in the corners of both rooms...this will probably be
> your single biggest expense but best bang for your buck in terms of
> treatment.
>
>
>
>
> "Rob Arsenault" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote in message
> news:490aff91@linux...
>> Hi Sarah
>> What you could do is use that small room as a machine room and access
>> hall to the ctrl room. That center partition must be a supporting
>> partition of 2' x 6" for the floor above so you cant really mess with it
>> to much but you should be able to add a couple openings with headers for
>> the 2 doors. Then that furnace area needs attention for sure, dbl wall
>> with insulation, RC channel and 5/8" drywall rite from floor to floor
>> above, sealed tight. I attached a jpg of my ideas.
>> That is probably what I would do in your position Sarah.
>> Good luck and keep us posted.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message
>> news:490ac00e@linux...
>>> Hiya fellas! And gals!
>>>
>>> Hey, the house I lived in for 12 years with the PARIS studio in it
>>> has
>>> been sold, and I had to move out. Waaaa! BUT . . . the owner let me
>>> take
>>> all the recording gear with me cuz he doesn't know how to use it anyway
>>> and
>>> thinks it's too old. Yay! BUT . . . I don't really have a studio
>>> anymore,
>>> at least not with the nice separate control room with the little window,
>>> etc. I just have a big old finished basement with a strange little room
>>> attached. The space is mostly carpeted, except for about the last 8 of
>>> the
>>> 32 foot length, which is linoleum. Low ceiling w/ ceiling tiles (8'?
>>> maybe
>>> even 7')
>>>
>>> I attached a crude diagram of the space that I drew in Photoshop in
>>> hopes of getting some opinions on how best to set up the studio and what
>>> to
>>> do with that little room. (Yeah, I know, I used the " inches symbol
>>> instead
>>> of the ' foot symbol, but no, it's not a doll house. Just translate to
>>> feet
>>> please.) Vocal/drum booth? Machine room? Hookah lounge? Do I need to
>>> barter with some carpenter/songwriter to build me a wall for a separate
>>> control room? Also, what about cheap sound-proofing? I have a bunch of
>>> Auralex bass traps and a few panels, but not enough for the whole space.
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyway, I need to get set up soon as I can, cuz we had to dismantle
>>> the
>>> studio right in the middle of the rhythm tracks for the new Sarahtonin
>>> CD,
>>> which is promising to be even better than the first, if that's possible.
>>> :)
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for your cogitations.
>>>
>>> Humbly yours,
>>>
>>> Sarahtonin
>>>
>>> PS: Happy Halloween!
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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Re: Set up advice . . . [message #100841 is a reply to message #100833] |
Fri, 31 October 2008 07:58 |
Don Nafe
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Use Roxul RXL 40 batt insulation...essentially the same stuff.
you'll probably have to get it at a building supply store as the big box
stores don't carry it...at least in Ottawa
D
"Rob Arsenault" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote in message
news:490b1502@linux...
> Don, did you find any OC703 out your way, I'm having a hell of a time
> finding some out East. I am planning on going with that Rockwool stuff
> from Roxul, according to Ethan, it is very similar.
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote in message news:490b0596@linux...
>> Using Rob's JPG as a template I'd put my mixing area along the far short
>> wall of the small room...better acoustic properties and you could use the
>> walk around room as a bass trap.
>>
>> As for sound treatment Owens Corning 703 wrapped in fabric and hung on
>> the walls and placed in the corners of both rooms...this will probably be
>> your single biggest expense but best bang for your buck in terms of
>> treatment.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Rob Arsenault" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote in message
>> news:490aff91@linux...
>>> Hi Sarah
>>> What you could do is use that small room as a machine room and access
>>> hall to the ctrl room. That center partition must be a supporting
>>> partition of 2' x 6" for the floor above so you cant really mess with it
>>> to much but you should be able to add a couple openings with headers for
>>> the 2 doors. Then that furnace area needs attention for sure, dbl wall
>>> with insulation, RC channel and 5/8" drywall rite from floor to floor
>>> above, sealed tight. I attached a jpg of my ideas.
>>> That is probably what I would do in your position Sarah.
>>> Good luck and keep us posted.
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message
>>> news:490ac00e@linux...
>>>> Hiya fellas! And gals!
>>>>
>>>> Hey, the house I lived in for 12 years with the PARIS studio in it
>>>> has
>>>> been sold, and I had to move out. Waaaa! BUT . . . the owner let me
>>>> take
>>>> all the recording gear with me cuz he doesn't know how to use it anyway
>>>> and
>>>> thinks it's too old. Yay! BUT . . . I don't really have a studio
>>>> anymore,
>>>> at least not with the nice separate control room with the little
>>>> window,
>>>> etc. I just have a big old finished basement with a strange little
>>>> room
>>>> attached. The space is mostly carpeted, except for about the last 8 of
>>>> the
>>>> 32 foot length, which is linoleum. Low ceiling w/ ceiling tiles (8'?
>>>> maybe
>>>> even 7')
>>>>
>>>> I attached a crude diagram of the space that I drew in Photoshop in
>>>> hopes of getting some opinions on how best to set up the studio and
>>>> what to
>>>> do with that little room. (Yeah, I know, I used the " inches symbol
>>>> instead
>>>> of the ' foot symbol, but no, it's not a doll house. Just translate to
>>>> feet
>>>> please.) Vocal/drum booth? Machine room? Hookah lounge? Do I need
>>>> to
>>>> barter with some carpenter/songwriter to build me a wall for a separate
>>>> control room? Also, what about cheap sound-proofing? I have a bunch
>>>> of
>>>> Auralex bass traps and a few panels, but not enough for the whole
>>>> space.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I need to get set up soon as I can, cuz we had to dismantle
>>>> the
>>>> studio right in the middle of the rhythm tracks for the new Sarahtonin
>>>> CD,
>>>> which is promising to be even better than the first, if that's
>>>> possible. :)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for your cogitations.
>>>>
>>>> Humbly yours,
>>>>
>>>> Sarahtonin
>>>>
>>>> PS: Happy Halloween!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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Re: Set up advice . . . [message #100891 is a reply to message #100830] |
Sat, 01 November 2008 07:19 |
Sarah
Messages: 608 Registered: February 2007
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Thank you very much for the modified .jpg -- I like the looks of that. I
appreciate you taking the time to do it.
S
"Rob Arsenault" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote in message
news:490aff91@linux...
> Hi Sarah
> What you could do is use that small room as a machine room and access hall
> to the ctrl room. That center partition must be a supporting partition of
> 2' x 6" for the floor above so you cant really mess with it to much but
> you should be able to add a couple openings with headers for the 2 doors.
> Then that furnace area needs attention for sure, dbl wall with insulation,
> RC channel and 5/8" drywall rite from floor to floor above, sealed tight.
> I attached a jpg of my ideas.
> That is probably what I would do in your position Sarah.
> Good luck and keep us posted.
>
> Rob
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:490ac00e@linux...
>> Hiya fellas! And gals!
>>
>> Hey, the house I lived in for 12 years with the PARIS studio in it has
>> been sold, and I had to move out. Waaaa! BUT . . . the owner let me
>> take
>> all the recording gear with me cuz he doesn't know how to use it anyway
>> and
>> thinks it's too old. Yay! BUT . . . I don't really have a studio
>> anymore,
>> at least not with the nice separate control room with the little window,
>> etc. I just have a big old finished basement with a strange little room
>> attached. The space is mostly carpeted, except for about the last 8 of
>> the
>> 32 foot length, which is linoleum. Low ceiling w/ ceiling tiles (8'?
>> maybe
>> even 7')
>>
>> I attached a crude diagram of the space that I drew in Photoshop in
>> hopes of getting some opinions on how best to set up the studio and what
>> to
>> do with that little room. (Yeah, I know, I used the " inches symbol
>> instead
>> of the ' foot symbol, but no, it's not a doll house. Just translate to
>> feet
>> please.) Vocal/drum booth? Machine room? Hookah lounge? Do I need to
>> barter with some carpenter/songwriter to build me a wall for a separate
>> control room? Also, what about cheap sound-proofing? I have a bunch of
>> Auralex bass traps and a few panels, but not enough for the whole space.
>>
>>
>> Anyway, I need to get set up soon as I can, cuz we had to dismantle
>> the
>> studio right in the middle of the rhythm tracks for the new Sarahtonin
>> CD,
>> which is promising to be even better than the first, if that's possible.
>> :)
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your cogitations.
>>
>> Humbly yours,
>>
>> Sarahtonin
>>
>> PS: Happy Halloween!
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Set up advice . . . [message #100892 is a reply to message #100825] |
Sat, 01 November 2008 07:22 |
Sarah
Messages: 608 Registered: February 2007
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Thanks everybody for the input. I'll take before and after pictures if it
turns out I can do some major remodelling down here. :)
You guys rule.
S
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:490ac00e@linux...
> Hiya fellas! And gals!
>
> Hey, the house I lived in for 12 years with the PARIS studio in it has
> been sold, and I had to move out. Waaaa! BUT . . . the owner let me take
> all the recording gear with me cuz he doesn't know how to use it anyway
> and thinks it's too old. Yay! BUT . . . I don't really have a studio
> anymore, at least not with the nice separate control room with the little
> window, etc. I just have a big old finished basement with a strange
> little room attached. The space is mostly carpeted, except for about the
> last 8 of the 32 foot length, which is linoleum. Low ceiling w/ ceiling
> tiles (8'? maybe even 7')
>
> I attached a crude diagram of the space that I drew in Photoshop in
> hopes of getting some opinions on how best to set up the studio and what
> to do with that little room. (Yeah, I know, I used the " inches symbol
> instead of the ' foot symbol, but no, it's not a doll house. Just
> translate to feet please.) Vocal/drum booth? Machine room? Hookah
> lounge? Do I need to barter with some carpenter/songwriter to build me a
> wall for a separate control room? Also, what about cheap sound-proofing?
> I have a bunch of Auralex bass traps and a few panels, but not enough for
> the whole space.
>
>
> Anyway, I need to get set up soon as I can, cuz we had to dismantle the
> studio right in the middle of the rhythm tracks for the new Sarahtonin CD,
> which is promising to be even better than the first, if that's possible.
> :)
>
> Thanks in advance for your cogitations.
>
> Humbly yours,
>
> Sarahtonin
>
> PS: Happy Halloween!
>
>
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