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| Channel strip opinions [message #63546] |
Sat, 21 January 2006 17:56  |
TCB
Messages: 1261
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Hey all,
As my little rock'n'roll outfit starts to gear up (no pun intended) for a
second CD I'm thinking of picking up one or maybe two channel strips for
the home studio where we'll be tracking. I'm willing to go up to roughly
the $2k range which means I'm only really ruling out Manley. So, for those
among you have have heard and used Summit, Focusrite ISA, Avalon, and vintage
lunchbox options, I would appreciate any ideas. Having used what I've used,
I would lean to the Avalon 737 or the Summit MPC-100 because I've used them
both in other studios and really liked them. Very clean tube sound.
As an aside, I was at rehearsal tonight and had a bit laugh. I'm binary boy,
right? All about the 1s and 0s, writing computer code and making electronic
music? In this rock band my signal path is
almost 20 year old 62 reissue strat w/ van zandt pickups -> fulltone wah
-> Moogerfooger analog delay -> Fulltone OCD overdrive pedal -> Moogerfooger
phase shifter -> Line 6 modulation modeller -> Top Hat Club Royale with a
THD Hot Plate attenuator to knock down the volume. The only piece of vaguely
modern gear is the digital emulator of old effects that is mostly used for
tremolo (has a gorgeous Vox bias trem effect). All of which is only to say
I'm not all that digital when it comes to guitars, which I think is funny.
TCB
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| Re: Channel strip opinions [message #63555 is a reply to message #63546] |
Sat, 21 January 2006 22:24  |
Neil
Messages: 1645
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I personally think the 737 is an overly-disparaged box for no
good reason... it can kick total ass, depending on what you're
micing & what mic you're using... If you want clean class-A
that can also get warm & fuzzy, that's the way to go. As for
the Summitt stuff, I've always felt it was some of the dirtier
high-end tube gear around, but definitely useful for certain
things. One man's clean is another mans dirt, I s'pose. lol
The Mucusrite newer ISA stuff is very clean, but not very
colored - at least based on my epxereince with the 428... dunno
if that helps you any.
Neil
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Hey all,
>
>As my little rock'n'roll outfit starts to gear up (no pun intended) for
a
>second CD I'm thinking of picking up one or maybe two channel strips for
>the home studio where we'll be tracking. I'm willing to go up to roughly
>the $2k range which means I'm only really ruling out Manley. So, for those
>among you have have heard and used Summit, Focusrite ISA, Avalon, and vintage
>lunchbox options, I would appreciate any ideas. Having used what I've used,
>I would lean to the Avalon 737 or the Summit MPC-100 because I've used them
>both in other studios and really liked them. Very clean tube sound.
>
>As an aside, I was at rehearsal tonight and had a bit laugh. I'm binary
boy,
>right? All about the 1s and 0s, writing computer code and making electronic
>music? In this rock band my signal path is
>
>almost 20 year old 62 reissue strat w/ van zandt pickups -> fulltone wah
>-> Moogerfooger analog delay -> Fulltone OCD overdrive pedal -> Moogerfooger
>phase shifter -> Line 6 modulation modeller -> Top Hat Club Royale with
a
>THD Hot Plate attenuator to knock down the volume. The only piece of vaguely
>modern gear is the digital emulator of old effects that is mostly used for
>tremolo (has a gorgeous Vox bias trem effect). All of which is only to say
>I'm not all that digital when it comes to guitars, which I think is funny.
>
>
>TCB
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| Re: Channel strip opinions [message #63559 is a reply to message #63555] |
Sat, 21 January 2006 23:02 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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I agree. It's a monster if you get aggressive with it. The EQ is excellent
and the compressor can be very versatile but you've gotta know how to use
it.. I use it a lot as an insert on vocal tracks in mixes. Boosting the HF
at 20 or 32KHz can really open up a track. It's a tweaker's delight.
Another sleeper is the old JoeMeek VC-1. I haven't heard the new ones, but
the old ones sound very ballsy and do I daresay "Neve'ish"? I've had one in
my rack for years......twist knobs.......major shit happens. I've seen these
on EBay for around $350.00, though recently they seem to be edging upward.
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:43d31722$1@linux...
>
> I personally think the 737 is an overly-disparaged box for no
> good reason... it can kick total ass, depending on what you're
> micing & what mic you're using... If you want clean class-A
> that can also get warm & fuzzy, that's the way to go. As for
> the Summitt stuff, I've always felt it was some of the dirtier
> high-end tube gear around, but definitely useful for certain
> things. One man's clean is another mans dirt, I s'pose. lol
>
> The Mucusrite newer ISA stuff is very clean, but not very
> colored - at least based on my epxereince with the 428... dunno
> if that helps you any.
>
> Neil
>
>
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
> >
> >Hey all,
> >
> >As my little rock'n'roll outfit starts to gear up (no pun intended) for
> a
> >second CD I'm thinking of picking up one or maybe two channel strips for
> >the home studio where we'll be tracking. I'm willing to go up to roughly
> >the $2k range which means I'm only really ruling out Manley. So, for
those
> >among you have have heard and used Summit, Focusrite ISA, Avalon, and
vintage
> >lunchbox options, I would appreciate any ideas. Having used what I've
used,
> >I would lean to the Avalon 737 or the Summit MPC-100 because I've used
them
> >both in other studios and really liked them. Very clean tube sound.
> >
> >As an aside, I was at rehearsal tonight and had a bit laugh. I'm binary
> boy,
> >right? All about the 1s and 0s, writing computer code and making
electronic
> >music? In this rock band my signal path is
> >
> >almost 20 year old 62 reissue strat w/ van zandt pickups -> fulltone wah
> >-> Moogerfooger analog delay -> Fulltone OCD overdrive pedal ->
Moogerfooger
> >phase shifter -> Line 6 modulation modeller -> Top Hat Club Royale with
> a
> >THD Hot Plate attenuator to knock down the volume. The only piece of
vaguely
> >modern gear is the digital emulator of old effects that is mostly used
for
> >tremolo (has a gorgeous Vox bias trem effect). All of which is only to
say
> >I'm not all that digital when it comes to guitars, which I think is
funny.
> >
> >
> >TCB
>
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| Re: Channel strip opinions [message #63956 is a reply to message #63559] |
Mon, 30 January 2006 07:48 |
Miguel Vigil [1]
Messages: 258
Registered: July 2005
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Hey Deej,
How do you tell the difference between vintage and newer VC-1?
What color are the lettering grafics on your model?
Tanks...
el Miguel
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:43d32e37@linux...
> I agree. It's a monster if you get aggressive with it. The EQ is excellent
> and the compressor can be very versatile but you've gotta know how to use
> it.. I use it a lot as an insert on vocal tracks in mixes. Boosting the HF
> at 20 or 32KHz can really open up a track. It's a tweaker's delight.
>
> Another sleeper is the old JoeMeek VC-1. I haven't heard the new ones, but
> the old ones sound very ballsy and do I daresay "Neve'ish"? I've had one
in
> my rack for years......twist knobs.......major shit happens. I've seen
these
> on EBay for around $350.00, though recently they seem to be edging upward.
>
> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:43d31722$1@linux...
> >
> > I personally think the 737 is an overly-disparaged box for no
> > good reason... it can kick total ass, depending on what you're
> > micing & what mic you're using... If you want clean class-A
> > that can also get warm & fuzzy, that's the way to go. As for
> > the Summitt stuff, I've always felt it was some of the dirtier
> > high-end tube gear around, but definitely useful for certain
> > things. One man's clean is another mans dirt, I s'pose. lol
> >
> > The Mucusrite newer ISA stuff is very clean, but not very
> > colored - at least based on my epxereince with the 428... dunno
> > if that helps you any.
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
> > "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >Hey all,
> > >
> > >As my little rock'n'roll outfit starts to gear up (no pun intended) for
> > a
> > >second CD I'm thinking of picking up one or maybe two channel strips
for
> > >the home studio where we'll be tracking. I'm willing to go up to
roughly
> > >the $2k range which means I'm only really ruling out Manley. So, for
> those
> > >among you have have heard and used Summit, Focusrite ISA, Avalon, and
> vintage
> > >lunchbox options, I would appreciate any ideas. Having used what I've
> used,
> > >I would lean to the Avalon 737 or the Summit MPC-100 because I've used
> them
> > >both in other studios and really liked them. Very clean tube sound.
> > >
> > >As an aside, I was at rehearsal tonight and had a bit laugh. I'm binary
> > boy,
> > >right? All about the 1s and 0s, writing computer code and making
> electronic
> > >music? In this rock band my signal path is
> > >
> > >almost 20 year old 62 reissue strat w/ van zandt pickups -> fulltone
wah
> > >-> Moogerfooger analog delay -> Fulltone OCD overdrive pedal ->
> Moogerfooger
> > >phase shifter -> Line 6 modulation modeller -> Top Hat Club Royale with
> > a
> > >THD Hot Plate attenuator to knock down the volume. The only piece of
> vaguely
> > >modern gear is the digital emulator of old effects that is mostly used
> for
> > >tremolo (has a gorgeous Vox bias trem effect). All of which is only to
> say
> > >I'm not all that digital when it comes to guitars, which I think is
> funny.
> > >
> > >
> > >TCB
> >
>
>
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| Re: Channel strip opinions [message #63959 is a reply to message #63956] |
Mon, 30 January 2006 09:05 |
cujo
Messages: 285
Registered: July 2005
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Hmm, I have one I have been thinking of selling. It is porbably 5-6 years
old.
Smaller rubberish knobs, not the big plastic ones on the real old VC-1
"Miguel Vigil" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>Hey Deej,
>
>How do you tell the difference between vintage and newer VC-1?
>
>What color are the lettering grafics on your model?
>
>Tanks...
>
>
>el Miguel
>
>
>
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>news:43d32e37@linux...
>> I agree. It's a monster if you get aggressive with it. The EQ is excellent
>> and the compressor can be very versatile but you've gotta know how to
use
>> it.. I use it a lot as an insert on vocal tracks in mixes. Boosting the
HF
>> at 20 or 32KHz can really open up a track. It's a tweaker's delight.
>>
>> Another sleeper is the old JoeMeek VC-1. I haven't heard the new ones,
but
>> the old ones sound very ballsy and do I daresay "Neve'ish"? I've had one
>in
>> my rack for years......twist knobs.......major shit happens. I've seen
>these
>> on EBay for around $350.00, though recently they seem to be edging upward.
>>
>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:43d31722$1@linux...
>> >
>> > I personally think the 737 is an overly-disparaged box for no
>> > good reason... it can kick total ass, depending on what you're
>> > micing & what mic you're using... If you want clean class-A
>> > that can also get warm & fuzzy, that's the way to go. As for
>> > the Summitt stuff, I've always felt it was some of the dirtier
>> > high-end tube gear around, but definitely useful for certain
>> > things. One man's clean is another mans dirt, I s'pose. lol
>> >
>> > The Mucusrite newer ISA stuff is very clean, but not very
>> > colored - at least based on my epxereince with the 428... dunno
>> > if that helps you any.
>> >
>> > Neil
>> >
>> >
>> > "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >Hey all,
>> > >
>> > >As my little rock'n'roll outfit starts to gear up (no pun intended)
for
>> > a
>> > >second CD I'm thinking of picking up one or maybe two channel strips
>for
>> > >the home studio where we'll be tracking. I'm willing to go up to
>roughly
>> > >the $2k range which means I'm only really ruling out Manley. So, for
>> those
>> > >among you have have heard and used Summit, Focusrite ISA, Avalon, and
>> vintage
>> > >lunchbox options, I would appreciate any ideas. Having used what I've
>> used,
>> > >I would lean to the Avalon 737 or the Summit MPC-100 because I've used
>> them
>> > >both in other studios and really liked them. Very clean tube sound.
>> > >
>> > >As an aside, I was at rehearsal tonight and had a bit laugh. I'm binary
>> > boy,
>> > >right? All about the 1s and 0s, writing computer code and making
>> electronic
>> > >music? In this rock band my signal path is
>> > >
>> > >almost 20 year old 62 reissue strat w/ van zandt pickups -> fulltone
>wah
>> > >-> Moogerfooger analog delay -> Fulltone OCD overdrive pedal ->
>> Moogerfooger
>> > >phase shifter -> Line 6 modulation modeller -> Top Hat Club Royale
with
>> > a
>> > >THD Hot Plate attenuator to knock down the volume. The only piece of
>> vaguely
>> > >modern gear is the digital emulator of old effects that is mostly used
>> for
>> > >tremolo (has a gorgeous Vox bias trem effect). All of which is only
to
>> say
>> > >I'm not all that digital when it comes to guitars, which I think is
>> funny.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >TCB
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: Channel strip opinions [message #63963 is a reply to message #63959] |
Mon, 30 January 2006 09:06 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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Hmmmm.......well......mine is green with black plastic knobs and Ted
Fletcher's signature on the face plate on the right hand side (if facing the
front). Since he is no longer with JoeMeek, I would doubt his name would be
on the new ones.
Deej
"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
news:43de3967$1@linux...
>
>
> Hmm, I have one I have been thinking of selling. It is porbably 5-6 years
> old.
> Smaller rubberish knobs, not the big plastic ones on the real old VC-1
>
>
>
> "Miguel Vigil" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> >Hey Deej,
> >
> >How do you tell the difference between vintage and newer VC-1?
> >
> >What color are the lettering grafics on your model?
> >
> >Tanks...
> >
> >
> >el Miguel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >news:43d32e37@linux...
> >> I agree. It's a monster if you get aggressive with it. The EQ is
excellent
> >> and the compressor can be very versatile but you've gotta know how to
> use
> >> it.. I use it a lot as an insert on vocal tracks in mixes. Boosting the
> HF
> >> at 20 or 32KHz can really open up a track. It's a tweaker's delight.
> >>
> >> Another sleeper is the old JoeMeek VC-1. I haven't heard the new ones,
> but
> >> the old ones sound very ballsy and do I daresay "Neve'ish"? I've had
one
> >in
> >> my rack for years......twist knobs.......major shit happens. I've seen
> >these
> >> on EBay for around $350.00, though recently they seem to be edging
upward.
> >>
> >> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:43d31722$1@linux...
> >> >
> >> > I personally think the 737 is an overly-disparaged box for no
> >> > good reason... it can kick total ass, depending on what you're
> >> > micing & what mic you're using... If you want clean class-A
> >> > that can also get warm & fuzzy, that's the way to go. As for
> >> > the Summitt stuff, I've always felt it was some of the dirtier
> >> > high-end tube gear around, but definitely useful for certain
> >> > things. One man's clean is another mans dirt, I s'pose. lol
> >> >
> >> > The Mucusrite newer ISA stuff is very clean, but not very
> >> > colored - at least based on my epxereince with the 428... dunno
> >> > if that helps you any.
> >> >
> >> > Neil
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >Hey all,
> >> > >
> >> > >As my little rock'n'roll outfit starts to gear up (no pun intended)
> for
> >> > a
> >> > >second CD I'm thinking of picking up one or maybe two channel strips
> >for
> >> > >the home studio where we'll be tracking. I'm willing to go up to
> >roughly
> >> > >the $2k range which means I'm only really ruling out Manley. So, for
> >> those
> >> > >among you have have heard and used Summit, Focusrite ISA, Avalon,
and
> >> vintage
> >> > >lunchbox options, I would appreciate any ideas. Having used what
I've
> >> used,
> >> > >I would lean to the Avalon 737 or the Summit MPC-100 because I've
used
> >> them
> >> > >both in other studios and really liked them. Very clean tube sound.
> >> > >
> >> > >As an aside, I was at rehearsal tonight and had a bit laugh. I'm
binary
> >> > boy,
> >> > >right? All about the 1s and 0s, writing computer code and making
> >> electronic
> >> > >music? In this rock band my signal path is
> >> > >
> >> > >almost 20 year old 62 reissue strat w/ van zandt pickups -> fulltone
> >wah
> >> > >-> Moogerfooger analog delay -> Fulltone OCD overdrive pedal ->
> >> Moogerfooger
> >> > >phase shifter -> Line 6 modulation modeller -> Top Hat Club Royale
> with
> >> > a
> >> > >THD Hot Plate attenuator to knock down the volume. The only piece of
> >> vaguely
> >> > >modern gear is the digital emulator of old effects that is mostly
used
> >> for
> >> > >tremolo (has a gorgeous Vox bias trem effect). All of which is only
> to
> >> say
> >> > >I'm not all that digital when it comes to guitars, which I think is
> >> funny.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >TCB
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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| Re: Channel strip opinions [message #63979 is a reply to message #63959] |
Mon, 30 January 2006 15:48 |
Miguel Vigil [1]
Messages: 258
Registered: July 2005
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:) well, I would be looking to steal one for stupid no money
I really need to get a better high and would love to try the new
chandler model for $800; a resold neve portico; and listen to
the ADL600.
I also want to save for John Hardy servo 990.
sheesh,
el the slut
"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
news:43de3967$1@linux...
>
>
> Hmm, I have one I have been thinking of selling. It is porbably 5-6 years
> old.
> Smaller rubberish knobs, not the big plastic ones on the real old VC-1
>
>
>
> "Miguel Vigil" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> >Hey Deej,
> >
> >How do you tell the difference between vintage and newer VC-1?
> >
> >What color are the lettering grafics on your model?
> >
> >Tanks...
> >
> >
> >el Miguel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >news:43d32e37@linux...
> >> I agree. It's a monster if you get aggressive with it. The EQ is
excellent
> >> and the compressor can be very versatile but you've gotta know how to
> use
> >> it.. I use it a lot as an insert on vocal tracks in mixes. Boosting the
> HF
> >> at 20 or 32KHz can really open up a track. It's a tweaker's delight.
> >>
> >> Another sleeper is the old JoeMeek VC-1. I haven't heard the new ones,
> but
> >> the old ones sound very ballsy and do I daresay "Neve'ish"? I've had
one
> >in
> >> my rack for years......twist knobs.......major shit happens. I've seen
> >these
> >> on EBay for around $350.00, though recently they seem to be edging
upward.
> >>
> >> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:43d31722$1@linux...
> >> >
> >> > I personally think the 737 is an overly-disparaged box for no
> >> > good reason... it can kick total ass, depending on what you're
> >> > micing & what mic you're using... If you want clean class-A
> >> > that can also get warm & fuzzy, that's the way to go. As for
> >> > the Summitt stuff, I've always felt it was some of the dirtier
> >> > high-end tube gear around, but definitely useful for certain
> >> > things. One man's clean is another mans dirt, I s'pose. lol
> >> >
> >> > The Mucusrite newer ISA stuff is very clean, but not very
> >> > colored - at least based on my epxereince with the 428... dunno
> >> > if that helps you any.
> >> >
> >> > Neil
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >Hey all,
> >> > >
> >> > >As my little rock'n'roll outfit starts to gear up (no pun intended)
> for
> >> > a
> >> > >second CD I'm thinking of picking up one or maybe two channel strips
> >for
> >> > >the home studio where we'll be tracking. I'm willing to go up to
> >roughly
> >> > >the $2k range which means I'm only really ruling out Manley. So, for
> >> those
> >> > >among you have have heard and used Summit, Focusrite ISA, Avalon,
and
> >> vintage
> >> > >lunchbox options, I would appreciate any ideas. Having used what
I've
> >> used,
> >> > >I would lean to the Avalon 737 or the Summit MPC-100 because I've
used
> >> them
> >> > >both in other studios and really liked them. Very clean tube sound.
> >> > >
> >> > >As an aside, I was at rehearsal tonight and had a bit laugh. I'm
binary
> >> > boy,
> >> > >right? All about the 1s and 0s, writing computer code and making
> >> electronic
> >> > >music? In this rock band my signal path is
> >> > >
> >> > >almost 20 year old 62 reissue strat w/ van zandt pickups -> fulltone
> >wah
> >> > >-> Moogerfooger analog delay -> Fulltone OCD overdrive pedal ->
> >> Moogerfooger
> >> > >phase shifter -> Line 6 modulation modeller -> Top Hat Club Royale
> with
> >> > a
> >> > >THD Hot Plate attenuator to knock down the volume. The only piece of
> >> vaguely
> >> > >modern gear is the digital emulator of old effects that is mostly
used
> >> for
> >> > >tremolo (has a gorgeous Vox bias trem effect). All of which is only
> to
> >> say
> >> > >I'm not all that digital when it comes to guitars, which I think is
> >> funny.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >TCB
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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