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| Re: How do you insert a compressor to a buss or Main? [message #77802 is a reply to message #77801] |
Tue, 02 January 2007 16:27   |
JeffH
Messages: 307
Registered: October 2007
Location: Wamic, OR
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Do natives only workon printed tracks, or will they work as they're
being recorded? The recorded tracks would really be throwaways as I was
really just looking at keeping a print of the Globals in this scenario.
Yiu'd have to sync them if there was any automation on the
"mastering" pc. But if the automation were on the originating pc and
levels were left alone on the master...
It's convoluted concept...sampleslide crazy probably...and right down
your alley DJ!
Hoov
DJ wrote:
> "Jeff hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:459ae3d4$1@linux...
>
>>No buss inserts. This is one of the reasons why I've thought of going to
>>dual Paris rigs. Take the stereo output of the submixes over to the
>>second machine (preferably via lightpipe), use a pair of channels in the
>>second machine's submix (or mixes if it's multicasrd), and use EDS and
>>native inserts as desired on each buss. Paris hardware is getting to a
>>price point where this is ecomomically feasible.
>>
>>Hoov
>
>
> If you're doing this in real time, you won't be able to do it with native
> plugins. They will only work if you print the tracks, and if you plan on
> doing that, why would you use a second Paris rig? Only EDS plugins or
> external hardware would work as I think you are describing. Still it's a
> tempting idea. I've thought about it a bit myself. You could have 4 Paris
> rigs summing into one as long as they were timeline synced via smpte.
>
> ;o)
>
>
>
>
> Deej
>
>
>>Steve Cox wrote:
>>
>>>Hey Don, Good to here from you again. At best case scenario, I was hoping
>>>there was a way to do it like you do a channel. Just going to the top and
>>>clicking on EDS insert and assining it to be a compressor.
>>>I just went to the Buss/Master page and under settings hit "show inserts"
>>>and they only pop up above the Global Master and not a Buss. I put all
>>>the
>>>drums in buss 3 and was hoping to set a compressor on that buss only.
>>>Steve
>>>
>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hey Steve
>>>>
>>>>Benn a while. Hope you're doing well
>>>>
>>>>I may be mistaken but there were some limits on NoLimit...in the
>>>>look-ahead
>>>
>>>
>>>>I believe
>>>>
>>>>As for the inserts are you talking hardware or plugs
>>>>
>>>>Don
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:459ad4b4$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>How do you insert a compressor to a buss or Main? Also Didn't I read on
>>>
>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>forum that there is an issue about one of the compressors functions not
>>>
>>>
>>>>>being
>>>>>what it says it is, but backwards or something?
>>>>
>>>>
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| Re: How do you insert a compressor to a buss or Main? [message #77807 is a reply to message #77802] |
Tue, 02 January 2007 20:34 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005
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Senior Member |
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"Jeff hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message
news:459af5b3$1@linux...
> Do natives only workon printed tracks, or will they work as they're being
> recorded?
Nope. Only on printed tracks.
The recorded tracks would really be throwaways as I was
> really just looking at keeping a print of the Globals in this scenario.
> Yiu'd have to sync them if there was any automation on the "mastering" pc.
> But if the automation were on the originating pc and levels were left
> alone on the master...
Yes, but of course, you need lots of Paris rigs if you're going to bus more
than one group and this would require at least the playback computers being
synced.
>
> It's convoluted concept...sampleslide crazy probably...and right down your
> alley DJ!
Believe me, I've thought long and hard about it. I've got the makings here
of such a setup (4 x computers and 4 x MECs). I could use three of the comps
as playback rigs and bus the submixes to the fourth one as the summing rig.
All I would need would be a smpte lockup on the three playback machines. The
really sick way to do this would be to use 8 synced playback rigs into one
summing rig. You could do this pretty elegantly with 8 EDS cards, 8 x MECs,
a JL cooper Datasync II receiving ADAT sync from an ADAt module on the
master playback computer outputting smpte to 7 x old Opcode Studio 64 XTC's
interfacing to the 7 slaved and daisy chained Paris computers. Of course,
you would also need 8 monitors and a helluva KVM as well as a way to sum the
outputs of 8 stereo spdif sources into two ADAT modules on the summing DAW,
or just do it via analog and strap a bunch of cool analog stereo comps
across the mix bus of each of the 8 x Paris rigs.
I must confess, even "I'm" not this crazy.......yet.
;o)
>
> Hoov
>
> DJ wrote:
>> "Jeff hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message
>> news:459ae3d4$1@linux...
>>
>>>No buss inserts. This is one of the reasons why I've thought of going to
>>>dual Paris rigs. Take the stereo output of the submixes over to the
>>>second machine (preferably via lightpipe), use a pair of channels in the
>>>second machine's submix (or mixes if it's multicasrd), and use EDS and
>>>native inserts as desired on each buss. Paris hardware is getting to a
>>>price point where this is ecomomically feasible.
>>>
>>>Hoov
>>
>>
>> If you're doing this in real time, you won't be able to do it with native
>> plugins. They will only work if you print the tracks, and if you plan on
>> doing that, why would you use a second Paris rig? Only EDS plugins or
>> external hardware would work as I think you are describing. Still it's a
>> tempting idea. I've thought about it a bit myself. You could have 4 Paris
>> rigs summing into one as long as they were timeline synced via smpte.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Deej
>>
>>
>>>Steve Cox wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hey Don, Good to here from you again. At best case scenario, I was
>>>>hoping
>>>>there was a way to do it like you do a channel. Just going to the top
>>>>and
>>>>clicking on EDS insert and assining it to be a compressor.
>>>>I just went to the Buss/Master page and under settings hit "show
>>>>inserts"
>>>>and they only pop up above the Global Master and not a Buss. I put all
>>>>the
>>>>drums in buss 3 and was hoping to set a compressor on that buss only.
>>>>Steve
>>>>
>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hey Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>Benn a while. Hope you're doing well
>>>>>
>>>>>I may be mistaken but there were some limits on NoLimit...in the
>>>>>look-ahead
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I believe
>>>>>
>>>>>As for the inserts are you talking hardware or plugs
>>>>>
>>>>>Don
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:459ad4b4$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>How do you insert a compressor to a buss or Main? Also Didn't I read
>>>>>>on
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>forum that there is an issue about one of the compressors functions
>>>>>>not
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>being
>>>>>>what it says it is, but backwards or something?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
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| Re: How do you insert a compressor to a buss or Main? [message #77808 is a reply to message #77807] |
Tue, 02 January 2007 20:35 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005
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Senior Member |
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Oops.that would be 9 x of everythijng because I forgot about the EDS card,
MEC and monitor for the summing rig.
;o)
"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:459b2f4a@linux...
>
> "Jeff hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:459af5b3$1@linux...
>> Do natives only workon printed tracks, or will they work as they're being
>> recorded?
>
> Nope. Only on printed tracks.
>
> The recorded tracks would really be throwaways as I was
>> really just looking at keeping a print of the Globals in this scenario.
>> Yiu'd have to sync them if there was any automation on the "mastering"
>> pc. But if the automation were on the originating pc and levels were left
>> alone on the master...
>
> Yes, but of course, you need lots of Paris rigs if you're going to bus
> more than one group and this would require at least the playback computers
> being synced.
>>
>> It's convoluted concept...sampleslide crazy probably...and right down
>> your alley DJ!
>
> Believe me, I've thought long and hard about it. I've got the makings here
> of such a setup (4 x computers and 4 x MECs). I could use three of the
> comps as playback rigs and bus the submixes to the fourth one as the
> summing rig. All I would need would be a smpte lockup on the three
> playback machines. The really sick way to do this would be to use 8 synced
> playback rigs into one summing rig. You could do this pretty elegantly
> with 8 EDS cards, 8 x MECs, a JL cooper Datasync II receiving ADAT sync
> from an ADAt module on the master playback computer outputting smpte to 7
> x old Opcode Studio 64 XTC's interfacing to the 7 slaved and daisy chained
> Paris computers. Of course, you would also need 8 monitors and a helluva
> KVM as well as a way to sum the outputs of 8 stereo spdif sources into two
> ADAT modules on the summing DAW, or just do it via analog and strap a
> bunch of cool analog stereo comps across the mix bus of each of the 8 x
> Paris rigs.
>
> I must confess, even "I'm" not this crazy.......yet.
>
> ;o)
>
>>
>> Hoov
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>> "Jeff hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message
>>> news:459ae3d4$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>No buss inserts. This is one of the reasons why I've thought of going
>>>>to dual Paris rigs. Take the stereo output of the submixes over to the
>>>>second machine (preferably via lightpipe), use a pair of channels in the
>>>>second machine's submix (or mixes if it's multicasrd), and use EDS and
>>>>native inserts as desired on each buss. Paris hardware is getting to a
>>>>price point where this is ecomomically feasible.
>>>>
>>>>Hoov
>>>
>>>
>>> If you're doing this in real time, you won't be able to do it with
>>> native plugins. They will only work if you print the tracks, and if you
>>> plan on doing that, why would you use a second Paris rig? Only EDS
>>> plugins or external hardware would work as I think you are describing.
>>> Still it's a tempting idea. I've thought about it a bit myself. You
>>> could have 4 Paris rigs summing into one as long as they were timeline
>>> synced via smpte.
>>>
>>> ;o)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Deej
>>>
>>>
>>>>Steve Cox wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hey Don, Good to here from you again. At best case scenario, I was
>>>>>hoping
>>>>>there was a way to do it like you do a channel. Just going to the top
>>>>>and
>>>>>clicking on EDS insert and assining it to be a compressor.
>>>>>I just went to the Buss/Master page and under settings hit "show
>>>>>inserts"
>>>>>and they only pop up above the Global Master and not a Buss. I put all
>>>>>the
>>>>>drums in buss 3 and was hoping to set a compressor on that buss only.
>>>>>Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hey Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Benn a while. Hope you're doing well
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I may be mistaken but there were some limits on NoLimit...in the
>>>>>>look-ahead
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I believe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>As for the inserts are you talking hardware or plugs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:459ad4b4$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How do you insert a compressor to a buss or Main? Also Didn't I read
>>>>>>>on
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>forum that there is an issue about one of the compressors functions
>>>>>>>not
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>being
>>>>>>>what it says it is, but backwards or something?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
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| Re: How do you insert a compressor to a buss or Main? [message #77833 is a reply to message #77808] |
Wed, 03 January 2007 15:30 |
Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
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I was going to say that the set up seemed TOO somple.
;-)
Rod
"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>Oops.that would be 9 x of everythijng because I forgot about the EDS card,
>MEC and monitor for the summing rig.
>
>;o)
>
>"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:459b2f4a@linux...
>>
>> "Jeff hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message
>> news:459af5b3$1@linux...
>>> Do natives only workon printed tracks, or will they work as they're being
>>> recorded?
>>
>> Nope. Only on printed tracks.
>>
>> The recorded tracks would really be throwaways as I was
>>> really just looking at keeping a print of the Globals in this scenario.
>>> Yiu'd have to sync them if there was any automation on the "mastering"
>>> pc. But if the automation were on the originating pc and levels were
left
>>> alone on the master...
>>
>> Yes, but of course, you need lots of Paris rigs if you're going to bus
>> more than one group and this would require at least the playback computers
>> being synced.
>>>
>>> It's convoluted concept...sampleslide crazy probably...and right down
>>> your alley DJ!
>>
>> Believe me, I've thought long and hard about it. I've got the makings
here
>> of such a setup (4 x computers and 4 x MECs). I could use three of the
>> comps as playback rigs and bus the submixes to the fourth one as the
>> summing rig. All I would need would be a smpte lockup on the three
>> playback machines. The really sick way to do this would be to use 8 synced
>> playback rigs into one summing rig. You could do this pretty elegantly
>> with 8 EDS cards, 8 x MECs, a JL cooper Datasync II receiving ADAT sync
>> from an ADAt module on the master playback computer outputting smpte to
7
>> x old Opcode Studio 64 XTC's interfacing to the 7 slaved and daisy chained
>> Paris computers. Of course, you would also need 8 monitors and a helluva
>> KVM as well as a way to sum the outputs of 8 stereo spdif sources into
two
>> ADAT modules on the summing DAW, or just do it via analog and strap a
>> bunch of cool analog stereo comps across the mix bus of each of the 8
x
>> Paris rigs.
>>
>> I must confess, even "I'm" not this crazy.......yet.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>>>
>>> Hoov
>>>
>>> DJ wrote:
>>>> "Jeff hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:459ae3d4$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>No buss inserts. This is one of the reasons why I've thought of going
>>>>>to dual Paris rigs. Take the stereo output of the submixes over to
the
>>>>>second machine (preferably via lightpipe), use a pair of channels in
the
>>>>>second machine's submix (or mixes if it's multicasrd), and use EDS and
>>>>>native inserts as desired on each buss. Paris hardware is getting to
a
>>>>>price point where this is ecomomically feasible.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hoov
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you're doing this in real time, you won't be able to do it with
>>>> native plugins. They will only work if you print the tracks, and if
you
>>>> plan on doing that, why would you use a second Paris rig? Only EDS
>>>> plugins or external hardware would work as I think you are describing.
>>>> Still it's a tempting idea. I've thought about it a bit myself. You
>>>> could have 4 Paris rigs summing into one as long as they were timeline
>>>> synced via smpte.
>>>>
>>>> ;o)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Deej
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Steve Cox wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hey Don, Good to here from you again. At best case scenario, I was
>>>>>>hoping
>>>>>>there was a way to do it like you do a channel. Just going to the top
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>clicking on EDS insert and assining it to be a compressor.
>>>>>>I just went to the Buss/Master page and under settings hit "show
>>>>>>inserts"
>>>>>>and they only pop up above the Global Master and not a Buss. I put
all
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>drums in buss 3 and was hoping to set a compressor on that buss only.
>>>>>>Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hey Steve
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Benn a while. Hope you're doing well
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I may be mistaken but there were some limits on NoLimit...in the
>>>>>>>look-ahead
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I believe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>As for the inserts are you talking hardware or plugs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Don
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:459ad4b4$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>How do you insert a compressor to a buss or Main? Also Didn't I read
>>>>>>>>on
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>forum that there is an issue about one of the compressors functions
>>>>>>>>not
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>being
>>>>>>>>what it says it is, but backwards or something?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
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