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| How GOOD is GEAR!!!??!! ;o) [message #58296] |
Sat, 17 September 2005 21:40  |
Kim
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extatic!! Thrilled! Over the frippin' moon!!
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>This morning I hooked up, for the first time, my planned live setup. A lot
>of mental energy has gone into this. A lot of planning. A lot of theories.
>A lot of documenting and changing my mind.
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>Basically the idea is that I'll have 3 keyboards, plus a Theramin and a
guitar,
>along with three different effects loops, one of which is the Digitech GNX4
>which also acts as a looping pedal. The GNX therefore allows me to record
>parts and build a song using all the other bits. I have a Behringer FBC1010
>which controls all the routing of sounds done by two Akai MB-76's. Any keyboard
>or combination thereof can be routed through any effects unit or combination
>thereof. Any patch can be acheived.
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>I have approached this setup in a way most unlike me. I have planned it
carefully
>in as much detail as I realistically can. Traditionally I've been a "Let's
>just do it and see what happens" kinda guy, but it seems lately I'm changing
>my approach and planning things, and it's working for me.
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>After spending several hours over the last couple of days programming both
>the AKAI MB-76 programmable patch bays, as well as the Behringer this morning,
>I then went and took everything out the back and plugged it in to some of
>the gear. So far just two of the keyboards and two of the effects loops
(one
>of which is the GNX/looper).
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>What I loved was that I plugged the stuff in and it just worked. I'd planned
>it all so well that there was no mucking around. I plugged it in, punched
>in a program which would send a keyboard here or there, and it just went
>where it was told. I was thrilled. Well, not just thrilled...
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>This morning I actually literally jumped for joy. I was throwing fists in
>the air with passion and excitement, shouting "YES!!!".
>
>I since discovered a couple of minor hickups in the realm of level discrepencies,,
>but nothing I couldn't overcome with some quick reprogramming of the Digitech.
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>Things are going swimmingly. Wonderfully. Ab
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| Re: How GOOD is GEAR!!!??!! ;o) [message #58297 is a reply to message #58296] |
Sat, 17 September 2005 22:32  |
Deej [1]
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solutely fantastically.
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>The unfortunate thing is that it takes a long long time to plug it all in...
> ;o)
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>Cheers,
>Kim.
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>Hi All
I just rebuilt my computer and averything is working nicely but I noticed
Wires is missing on the FX list...where can I find it?
thanks
DonI'd like to do some cheapo rough mastering in Wavelab.
My comp unfortunately has built in sound.
However, I am concerned that the audio output will not be accurate enough
Is is possible to add a higher end card on a MOBO like this?
Will it not really matter too much for rough (a little limiting/even over
all levels/ sequence) mastering?Found it...DUH!
Don
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:432d7a3b@linux...
> Hi All
>
> I just rebuilt my computer and averything is working nicely but I noticed
> Wires is missing on the FX list...where can I find it?
>
> thanks
>
> Don
>
>
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>I know a lot of you guys like Mogami and Canare cables.
Where do you puchase? I'm no pro with the soldering, so I need to get a
snake to spec.
Last time I bought cables I went with Redco Audio, the company recommended
by Mercenary for all cabling needs?
Anybody? It's a big investment, and I don't want to waste money.
JimmyI checked Chuck Duffy's site where I learned that an OSX driver for Paris
is "not looking good..." and that "the [Paris] EDS-1000 cards are 5v PCI
boards that operate at 33 MHz on a standard PCI bus, with a 32 bit data path.
That means that the EDS cards will NOT work in the new G5."
"TC" of this group has suggested getting a "dedicated box" for Paris. Louis
of this group has said he uses a "G4 450." And "Jamie K." wrote: "I used
a dual 1GHZ G4 which was great for PARIS audio work (but for MIDI, fuhgetaboutit!).
I think maybe dual 1.33 was the last G4 before booting into OS9 was left
behind."
My questions:
Is the G4 (with OS 9) the last Mac model to work effectively with Paris 3.0
software and hardware, including the EDS card? If so, is there any reliable
supplier of G4s these days?
Also, since I'm not able to buy state-of-the-art Mac equipment to work with
Paris, is a PC box a good choice? (TC wrote: "Personally I prefer to run
Paris on a PC and everything else audio related on my G5.")
If I go the PC route, will any model and year work? Or do I need to find
a specific older model to accomodate Paris software and PCI card?
I greatly appreciate your advice."Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I seem to recall you mentioning that you were in a band, but maybe trying
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| Re: How GOOD is GEAR!!!??!! ;o) [message #58298 is a reply to message #58297] |
Sun, 18 September 2005 04:19 |
Kim
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>the solo thing.
Yeh, that'[s basically it. I'm in a band at the moment, but as per usual
they're just giving me the irates more than anything. The idea of the band
came about in January, and so far we know all of about 4 songs, and even
though are pretty rough. Finding times to rehearse has been near impossible...
anyhow... ;o)
But yes, I want to start a solo thing and dump this whole "I have to work
with other people" idea. ;o) That's mostly what this whole setup is about.
I figure to make the show as good as a band I need to have as much gear as
a band. ;o) Unfortunately I'll have to lug it all myself, which will suck.
Still, it is tremendously satisfying to build a whole song in seconds, and
I'm fairly confident that my playing skills will increase by a huge factor
now that I can better rehearse on my own. Over the last 12 months I've been
lucky to pick up an instrument once a week.
The hard part is going to be working on good ideas for transitions, starts
etc. Creating a few loops is easy. Where it gets hard is mostly in the area
of keeping things interesting while the loops play, because of course, a
loop is just a loop, and hence kinda repeative. Fortunately I do have some
ability to remove individual loops and then bring them back which helps.
The hard bit overall though will be keeping it interesting once the loops
are playing.
It's a problem I'm happy to have though. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.All you folks who clock Paris to an external source (Lucid, Apogee, etc.):
how much better does it sound?
5%?
10%?
40%?
Thanks!
JimmyThe latest P4 / motherboard combinations will work perfectly with Paris
running XP
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"Richard Faylor" <RichardFaylor@aol.com> wrote in message
news:432de37c@linux...
>
> I checked Chuck Duffy's site where I learned that an OSX driver for Paris
> is "not looking good..." and that "the [Paris] EDS-1000 cards are 5v PCI
> boards that operate at 33 MHz on a standard PCI bus, with a 32 bit data
> path.
> That means that the EDS cards will NOT work in the new G5."
> "TC" of this group has suggested getting a "dedicated box" for Paris.
> Louis
> of this group has said he uses a "G4 450." And "Jamie K." wrote: "I used
> a dual 1GHZ G4 which was great for PARIS audio work (but for MIDI,
> fuhgetaboutit!).
> I think maybe dual 1.33 was the last G4 before booting into OS9 was left
> behind."
> My questions:
> Is the G4 (with OS 9) the last Mac model to work effectively with Paris
> 3.0
> software and hardware, including the EDS card? If so, is there any
> reliable
> supplier of G4s these days?
> Also, since I'm not able to buy state-of-the-art Mac equipment to work
> with
> Paris, is a PC box a good choice? (TC wrote: "Personally I prefer to run
> Paris on a PC and everything else audio related on my G5.")
> If I go the PC route, will any model and year work? Or do I need to find
> a specific older model to accomodate Paris software and PCI card?
> I greatly appreciate your advice."Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>The latest P4 / motherboard combinations will work perfectly with Paris
>running XP
Keep in mind that some of the latest boards will have only PCI Express slots
which of course are not Paris compatible. You need to make sure too that
you have 5V compatible PCI slots, which covers most of the boards that have
"old style" PCI. From memory any PCI standard that starts with a 2 will work.
Don't quote me on that though. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.A/D conversion I'd say 5%. D/A conversion, 10%
"uptown jimm
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| Re: How GOOD is GEAR!!!??!! ;o) [message #58299 is a reply to message #58296] |
Sun, 18 September 2005 05:46 |
emarenot
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y" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:432e0316$1@linux...
> All you folks who clock Paris to an external source (Lucid, Apogee, etc.):
>
> how much better does it sound?
>
> 5%?
>
> 10%?
>
> 40%?
>
> Thanks!
> Jimmy
>
>www.markertek.com
or........
http://www.radialeng.com/
"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:432dd2cd$1@linux...
> I know a lot of you guys like Mogami and Canare cables.
>
> Where do you puchase? I'm no pro with the soldering, so I need to get a
> snake to spec.
>
> Last time I bought cables I went with Redco Audio, the company recommended
> by Mercenary for all cabling needs?
>
> Anybody? It's a big investment, and I don't want to waste money.
>
> Jimmy
>
>Good point, Kim.
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:432e06d9$1@linux...
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> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>The latest P4 / motherboard combinations will work perfectly with Paris
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>>running XP
>
> Keep in mind that some of the latest boards will have only PCI Express
> slots
> which of course are not Paris compatible. You need to make sure too that
> you have 5V compatible PCI slots, which covers most of the boards that
> have
> "old style" PCI. From memory any PCI standard that starts with a 2 will
> work.
> Don't quote me on that though. ;o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.Wow.
Now I feel dirty and confused. Not a good combo.
Jimmy
"Simpsons fan" <simpsun@fan.com> wrote in message news:432e0bed$1@linux...
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>If that's a tattoo, that HAD to hurt!!
"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>Wow.
>
>Now I feel dirty and confused. No
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| Re: How GOOD is GEAR!!!??!! ;o) [message #58305 is a reply to message #58299] |
Sun, 18 September 2005 15:52 |
Kim
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<riverbed@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message news:432c45ec$1@linux...
> good pair of mics go the XY, big sound natural field, man my typing sux,
I'm
> sure I'm dyslexic. I went to a toga party dressed as a goat.
>
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> "Chas. Duncan" <duncan5199@SPAMLESSsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:qkbni1hj3aotsojcgf1i4p8pqun8i510ca@4ax.com...
> >
> >
> > Well I was away all day and came back to these several *great*
> > suggestions... Thanks all -- really interesting stuff, looking
> > forward to trying out all these ideas...
> >
> > For the nuts and bolts kind of stuff you guys are really hard to
> > beat... Thanks again -- Chas.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:13:41 -0700, Chas. Duncan
> > <duncan5199@SPAMLESSsbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> >>Okay group, your thoughts please: Grand piano, with vocal... Best
> >>ideas for the killer sound... Nobody else in the room 'cept maybe a
> >>little stand up bass, occasional snare with a brush on it over in the
> >>corner.(nice sounding room)... How did the white coat lads approach
> >>this in ye olden days? Preferred mics, placement, signal path, all
> >&g
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