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Seagate Discwizard [message #100029]

Fri, 15 August 2008 06:07

Bill L

Messages: 766
Registered: August 2006

Senior Member

After my recent drive crash, I'm setting up new solutions for my
backups. One aspect is image backup with Seagate DiskImage. Anyone had
any experience with this free utility? It seems great. I just want to
know if I can count on it.

I own Ghost, but find it a difficult and less than elegant solution,
plus it does not work on my current computer for some reason. Also, I
don't much like Norton/Symantec - ugh.

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Re: Seagate Discwizard [message #100030 is a reply to message #100029]

Fri, 15 August 2008 07:59

Chris Ludwig

Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006

Senior Member

HI Bill,

Not sure if I would use a backup utility that only works for one brand of drive.

Symantec has really gotten pretty bad with their current versions of Ghost.
Most everyone that has gotten over the program we recommend to use with current hardware has had trouble with it during the recovery process.'
The current consumer oriented version of Ghost is way stripped down to the point that it is useless in an emergency IMHO.

If you want to use something that has better support for computer hardware and more reliable I would recommend the following.

Paragon Drive Backup Personal 9.0
http://www.paragon-software.com/home/db-personal/

or
Paragon Drive backup Professional 9.0
http://www.paragon-software.com/home/db-professional/

Professional would future proof you more in that it has both Linux based recover CDs and Windows PE based CDs available.
The windows based one will let you install driver controller an network controller drivers so doesn't really matter what the hardware is.
It also support recover of both hardware and dynamic raids. If you never use raid or don't change hardware allot the personal will be fine also.

Aconis True Image Home 11 is also pretty good. But they are allot slower and less responsive at updating drive controller chip sets.

Both are simple to us I think. paragon does allow you to get deep under the hood though if needed.
Both have scheduling support and both have the options to just backup and can even exclude files from a backup if needed.

Paragon also has a new express version that might be worth checking out also.
http://www.paragon-software.com/home/db-express/index.html

They also have some really cool Mac stuff going on now too.

Chris

Bill L wrote:
> After my recent drive crash, I'm setting up new solutions for my
> backups. One aspect is image backup with Seagate DiskImage. Anyone had
> any experience with this free utility? It seems great. I just want to
> know if I can count on it.
>
> I own Ghost, but find it a difficult and less than elegant solution,
> plus it does not work on my current computer for some reason. Also, I
> don't much like Norton/Symantec - ugh.

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Chris Ludwig

ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com

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Re: Seagate Discwizard [message #100031 is a reply to message #100030]

Sat, 16 August 2008 10:41

Bill L

Messages: 766
Registered: August 2006

Senior Member

I just discovered that on the XP disc is the Windows utility "Backups".
This looks very comprehensive, allowing both disc image and scheduled
incremental backups. I think I will just use that if it works as I hope
it will.

Chris Ludwig wrote:
> HI Bill,
>
> Not sure if I would use a backup utility that only works for one brand
> of drive.
>
> Symantec has really gotten pretty bad with their current versions of Ghost.
> Most everyone that has gotten over the program we recommend to use with
> current hardware has had trouble with it during the recovery process.'
> The current consumer oriented version of Ghost is way stripped down to
> the point that it is useless in an emergency IMHO.
>
> If you want to use something that has better support for computer
> hardware and more reliable I would recommend the following.
>
> Paragon Drive Backup Personal 9.0
> http://www.paragon-software.com/home/db-personal/
>
> or
> Paragon Drive backup Professional 9.0
> http://www.paragon-software.com/home/db-professional/
>
>
> Professional would future proof you more in that it has both Linux based
> recover CDs and Windows PE based CDs available.
> The windows based one will let you install driver controller an network
> controller drivers so doesn't really matter what the hardware is.
> It also support recover of both hardware and dynamic raids. If you never
> use raid or don't change hardware allot the personal will be fine also.
>
> Aconis True Image Home 11 is also pretty good. But they are allot slower
> and less responsive at updating drive controller chip sets.
>
> Both are simple to us I think. paragon does allow you to get deep under
> the hood though if needed.
> Both have scheduling support and both have the options to just backup
> and can even exclude files from a backup if needed.
>
> Paragon also has a new express version that might be worth checking out
> also.
> http://www.paragon-software.com/home/db-express/index.html
>
> They also have some really cool Mac stuff going on now too.
>
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
> Bill L wrote:
>> After my recent drive crash, I'm setting up new solutions for my
>> backups. One aspect is image backup with Seagate DiskImage. Anyone had
>> any experience with this free utility? It seems great. I just want to
>> know if I can count on it.
>>
>> I own Ghost, but find it a difficult and less than elegant solution,
>> plus it does not work on my current computer for some reason. Also, I
>> don't much like Norton/Symantec - ugh.
>

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Re: Seagate Discwizard [message #100034 is a reply to message #100031]

Sat, 16 August 2008 12:12

Aaron Allen

Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008

Senior Member

That stores in a BKF format natively, unless you do a file for file setting.
It is usable, but NOT fast to make recovery data from. Last time I used it
though may have been pre SP1 so things could have well changed with the
updates since then. That said, I didn't find it quick or intuitive, and for
a client that insisted on using it, not reliable on the scheduling overall.

AA

"Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:48a712f0$1@linux...
>I just discovered that on the XP disc is the Windows utility "Backups".
>This looks very comprehensive, allowing both disc image and scheduled
>incremental backups. I think I will just use that if it works as I hope it
>will.
>
> Chris Ludwig wrote:
>> HI Bill,
>>
>> Not sure if I would use a backup utility that only works for one brand of
>> drive.
>>
>> Symantec has really gotten pretty bad with their current versions of
>> Ghost.
>> Most everyone that has gotten over the program we recommend to use with
>> current hardware has had trouble with it during the recovery process.'
>> The current consumer oriented version of Ghost is way stripped down to
>> the point that it is useless in an emergency IMHO.
>>
>> If you want to use something that has better support for computer
>> hardware and more reliable I would recommend the following.
>>
>> Paragon Drive Backup Personal 9.0
>> http://www.paragon-software.com/home/db-personal/
>>
>> or
>> Paragon Drive backup Professional 9.0
>> http://www.paragon-software.com/home/db-professional/
>>
>>
>> Professional would future proof you more in that it has both Linux based
>> recover CDs and Windows PE based CDs available.
>> The windows based one will let you install driver controller an network
>> controller drivers so doesn't really matter what the hardware is.
>> It also support recover of both hardware and dynamic raids. If you never
>> use raid or don't change hardware allot the personal will be fine also.
>>
>> Aconis True Image Home 11 is also pretty good. But they are allot slower
>> and less responsive at updating drive controller chip sets.
>>
>> Both are simple to us I think. paragon does allow you to get deep under
>> the hood though if needed.
>> Both have scheduling support and both have the options to just backup and
>> can even exclude files from a backup if needed.
>>
>> Paragon also has a new express version that might be worth checking out
>> also.
>> http://www.paragon-software.com/home/db-express/index.html
>>
>> They also have some really cool Mac stuff going on now too.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> Bill L wrote:
>>> After my recent drive crash, I'm setting up new solutions for my
>>> backups. One aspect is image backup with Seagate DiskImage. Anyone had
>>> any experience with this free utility? It seems great. I just want to
>>> know if I can count on it.
>>>
>>> I own Ghost, but find it a difficult and less than elegant solution,
>>> plus it does not work on my current computer for some reason. Also, I
>>> don't much like Norton/Symantec - ugh.
>>

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Re: Seagate Discwizard [message #100036 is a reply to message #100031]

Sat, 16 August 2008 12:21

Aaron Allen

Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008

Senior Member

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/320820/en-us

"Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:48a712f0$1@linux...
>I just discovered that on the XP disc is the Windows utility "Backups".
>This looks very comprehensive, allowing both disc image and scheduled
>incremental backups. I think I will just use that if it works as I hope it
>will.
>
> Chris Ludwig wrote:
>> HI Bill,
>>
>> Not sure if I would use a backup utility that only works for one brand of
>> drive.
>>
>> Symantec has really gotten pretty bad with their current versions of
>> Ghost.
>> Most everyone that has gotten over the program we recommend to use with
>> current hardware has had trouble with it during the recovery process.'
>> The current consumer oriented version of Ghost is way stripped down to
>> the point that it is useless in an emergency IMHO.
>>
>> If you want to use something that has better support for computer
>> hardware and more reliable I would recommend the following.
>>
>> Paragon Drive Backup Personal 9.0
>> http://www.paragon-software.com/home/db-personal/
>>
>> or
>> Paragon Drive backup Professional 9.0
>> http://www.paragon-software.com/home/db-professional/
>>
>>
>> Professional would future proof you more in that it has both Linux based
>> recover CDs and Windows PE based CDs available.
>> The windows based one will let you install driver controller an network
>> controller drivers so doesn't really matter what the hardware is.
>> It also support recover of both hardware and dynamic raids. If you never
>> use raid or don't change hardware allot the personal will be fine also.
>>
>> Aconis True Image Home 11 is also pretty good. But they are allot slower
>> and less responsive at updating drive controller chip sets.
>>
>> Both are simple to us I think. paragon does allow you to get deep under
>> the hood though if needed.
>> Both have scheduling support and both have the options to just backup and
>> can even exclude files from a backup if needed.
>>
>> Paragon also has a new express version that might be worth checking out
>> also.
>> http://www.paragon-software.com/home/db-express/index.html
>>
>> They also have some really cool Mac stuff going on now too.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> Bill L wrote:
>>> After my recent drive crash, I'm setting up new solutions for my
>>> backups. One aspect is image backup with Seagate DiskImage. Anyone had
>>> any experience with this free utility? It seems great. I just want to
>>> know if I can count on it.
>>>
>>> I own Ghost, but find it a difficult and less than elegant solution,
>>> plus it does not work on my current computer for some reason. Also, I
>>> don't much like Norton/Symantec - ugh.
>>

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Re: Seagate Discwizard [message #100048 is a reply to message #100036]

Sun, 17 August 2008 06:05

Bill L

Messages: 766
Registered: August 2006

Senior Member

Thanks for the data nad link Aaron. I found the wizard and GUI fairly
simple and workable. I think I'll prolly stick with it as it's free and
works.

Aaron Allen wrote:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/320820/en-us
>
>
>
> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:48a712f0$1@linux...
>> I just discovered that on the XP disc is the Windows utility "Backups".
>> This looks very comprehensive, allowing both disc image and scheduled
>> incremental backups. I think I will just use that if it works as I hope it
>> will.
>>
>> Chris Ludwig wrote:
>>> HI Bill,
>>>
>>> Not sure if I would use a backup utility that only works for one brand of
>>> drive.
>>>
>>> Symantec has really gotten pretty bad with their current versions of
>>> Ghost.
>>> Most everyone that has gotten over the program we recommend to use with
>>> current hardware has had trouble with it during the recovery process.'
>>> The current consumer oriented version of Ghost is way stripped down to
>>> the point that it is useless in an emergency IMHO.
>>>
>>> If you want to use something that has better support for computer
>>> hardware and more reliable I would recommend the following.
>>>
>>> Paragon Drive Backup Personal 9.0
>>> http://www.paragon-software.com/home/db-personal/
>>>
>>> or
>>> Paragon Drive backup Professional 9.0
>>> http://www.paragon-software.com/home/db-professional/
>>>
>>>
>>> Professional would future proof you more in that it has both Linux based
>>> recover CDs and Windows PE based CDs available.
>>> The windows based one will let you install driver controller an network
>>> controller drivers so doesn't really matter what the hardware is.
>>> It also support recover of both hardware and dynamic raids. If you never
>>> use raid or don't change hardware allot the personal will be fine also.
>>>
>>> Aconis True Image Home 11 is also pretty good. But they are allot slower
>>> and less responsive at updating drive controller chip sets.
>>>
>>> Both are simple to us I think. paragon does allow you to get deep under
>>> the hood though if needed.
>>> Both have scheduling support and both have the options to just backup and
>>> can even exclude files from a backup if needed.
>>>
>>> Paragon also has a new express version that might be worth checking out
>>> also.
>>> http://www.paragon-software.com/home/db-express/index.html
>>>
>>> They also have some really cool Mac stuff going on now too.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill L wrote:
>>>> After my recent drive crash, I'm setting up new solutions for my
>>>> backups. One aspect is image backup with Seagate DiskImage. Anyone had
>>>> any experience with this free utility? It seems great. I just want to
>>>> know if I can count on it.
>>>>
>>>> I own Ghost, but find it a difficult and less than elegant solution,
>>>> plus it does not work on my current computer for some reason. Also, I
>>>> don't much like Norton/Symantec - ugh.
>
>

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