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| Re: I learned something new about iPods [message #90745 is a reply to message #90743] |
Fri, 28 September 2007 18:49   |
DC
Messages: 722
Registered: July 2005
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And the first thing is not to fat-finger while typing and put an empty post
up...
sheesh
Anyway, (and please don't mistake this for Apple boosterism, I have no
interest in that)
I discovered this week (some of you probably figgered this out years
ago) that the iPod Classic will accept full-size WAV or AIFF files
(no compression at all of any kind) and play them.
Ok, so here is what I did. I bought one. Updated the mini's OS
(required by the iPod) Then, I imported CD's as 44.1/16 bit AIFF files,
using iTunes, and was rewarded with nice big (750 or so Meg) files.
Good so far. Then I synced them over to the iPod, and indeed they took
up the same amount of space, so there was no compression done there.
And dang! I am playing redbook audio, in real time, on an iPod!
Plays perfectly. Ok, now lose the earbuds. Get the Sennheiser HD580's
and hey! it drives them just fine!
Now, the first thing I listened to was the Telarc release of Faure's
Requiem, and holy cow it sounds spectacular! No loss at all.
And it occurs to me, that we indeed do have a very hi-fi high-density
and portable music playback system here. No mp3, no AAC, no Apple
lossless, no nothing. Just CD audio and the ipod sounds as good or
better than my Adcom CD player.
And actually, without the laser reading a bunch of pits or burns and
the CD player's error correction going on, this may even sound better.
So, I wondering, is there an spdif digital out somewhere on the pins
of the iPod connector down there?
Wouldn't it be fun to put a killer D-A on one of these little guys?
hmmmm
At any rate, I am now a bigtime iPod supporter.
Listening to Debussy right now, and some Nat Cole a few minutes ago...
Amazing.
DC
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| Re: I learned something new about iPods [message #90746 is a reply to message #90745] |
Fri, 28 September 2007 19:13 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.org> wrote:
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>And the first thing is not to fat-finger while typing and put an empty post
>up...
>
>sheesh
>
>Anyway, (and please don't mistake this for Apple boosterism, I have no
>interest in that)
>
>I discovered this week (some of you probably figgered this out years
>ago) that the iPod Classic will accept full-size WAV or AIFF files
>(no compression at all of any kind) and play them.
>
>Ok, so here is what I did. I bought one. Updated the mini's OS
>(required by the iPod) Then, I imported CD's as 44.1/16 bit AIFF files,
>using iTunes, and was rewarded with nice big (750 or so Meg) files.
>Good so far. Then I synced them over to the iPod, and indeed they took
>up the same amount of space, so there was no compression done there.
>
>And dang! I am playing redbook audio, in real time, on an iPod!
>
>Plays perfectly. Ok, now lose the earbuds. Get the Sennheiser HD580's
>and hey! it drives them just fine!
>
>Now, the first thing I listened to was the Telarc release of Faure's
>Requiem, and holy cow it sounds spectacular! No loss at all.
>
>And it occurs to me, that we indeed do have a very hi-fi high-density
>and portable music playback system here. No mp3, no AAC, no Apple
>lossless, no nothing. Just CD audio and the ipod sounds as good or
>better than my Adcom CD player.
>
>And actually, without the laser reading a bunch of pits or burns and
>the CD player's error correction going on, this may even sound better.
>
>So, I wondering, is there an spdif digital out somewhere on the pins
>of the iPod connector down there?
>
>Wouldn't it be fun to put a killer D-A on one of these little guys?
>
>hmmmm
>
>At any rate, I am now a bigtime iPod supporter.
>
>Listening to Debussy right now, and some Nat Cole a few minutes ago...
>
>Amazing.
>
>DC
>
Oh noooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!! : 0
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| Re: I learned something new about iPods [message #90846 is a reply to message #90835] |
Sun, 30 September 2007 21:38 |
scott h
Messages: 27
Registered: July 2005
Location: Detroit
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I had been an iPod critic up to this latest release... to me, the models with
the type of storage I wanted were WAY too expensive...
when the new "classic" came out I just couldn't pass up the 80g for $250
price point... it finally became a sexy piece of gear...
so... the day after they came out, I purchased one...
I must say... I have run some uncompressed disks over to it, as well as some
MP3... it really does sound fabulous uncompressed..and in the environment
to which I use it... damn near as good compressed... .
I usually listen to it in my truck.. if I am listening to something critical...
it is not through headphones, it is not in the car... it is off of my media
PC direct into my system... it has all same stuff that the iPod now has (plus
a ton more) ... the killer app. for me was the opportunity to leave all my
CD's in the cases, in the rack... never to be touched (everything is already
on the media pc)... no more cd cases cluttering up the truck... just that
cute little chrome backed beauty in its clip on my dash... and a wire going
straight into the CD changer input on my car stereo....
its been a lot of fun to see what comes up next on shuffle...
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
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>Yeah, 400 is a bunch O' work...
>
>DC
>
>"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
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>>Boy am I glad I ripped my entire CD collection to uncompressed .wav files
>>instead of some other format.
>>
>>I can't imagine ripping 400 CDs again!
>>
>>Chuck
>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>But seriously, do oyu guys realize that we now have a player
>>>(iPod Classic 160G) that can hold more than 200 CD's of
>>>totally uncompressed audio?
>>>
>>>There is now no reason ro not get one. None at all.
>>>
>>>Also, there is really no reason for CD's anymore, other than
>>>the fact that to get uncompressed audio down most of the
>>>isp's we use would simply take too long. That will change too.
>>>
>>>Amazing.
>>>
>>>DC
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: I learned something new about iPods [message #90860 is a reply to message #90846] |
Mon, 01 October 2007 08:12 |
dc[3]
Messages: 895
Registered: September 2005
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Yeah, it's like the first time I made a phone call from a moving car...
"I can't believe I'm doing this".
Listening to totally uncompressed music on an iPod...
Now, you only get 100 CD's or so on the 80G model, but that is plenty
for me...
DC
"scotth" <fresnelmusic@comcast.net> wrote:
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>I had been an iPod critic up to this latest release... to me, the models
with
>the type of storage I wanted were WAY too expensive...
>
>when the new "classic" came out I just couldn't pass up the 80g for $250
>price point... it finally became a sexy piece of gear...
>
>so... the day after they came out, I purchased one...
>
>I must say... I have run some uncompressed disks over to it, as well as
some
>MP3... it really does sound fabulous uncompressed..and in the environment
>to which I use it... damn near as good compressed... .
>
> I usually listen to it in my truck.. if I am listening to something critical...
>it is not through headphones, it is not in the car... it is off of my media
>PC direct into my system... it has all same stuff that the iPod now has
(plus
>a ton more) ... the killer app. for me was the opportunity to leave all
my
>CD's in the cases, in the rack... never to be touched (everything is already
>on the media pc)... no more cd cases cluttering up the truck... just that
>cute little chrome backed beauty in its clip on my dash... and a wire going
>straight into the CD changer input on my car stereo....
>
>its been a lot of fun to see what comes up next on shuffle...
>
>
>
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>
>>Yeah, 400 is a bunch O' work...
>>
>>DC
>>
>>"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Boy am I glad I ripped my entire CD collection to uncompressed .wav files
>>>instead of some other format.
>>>
>>>I can't imagine ripping 400 CDs again!
>>>
>>>Chuck
>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>But seriously, do oyu guys realize that we now have a player
>>>>(iPod Classic 160G) that can hold more than 200 CD's of
>>>>totally uncompressed audio?
>>>>
>>>>There is now no reason ro not get one. None at all.
>>>>
>>>>Also, there is really no reason for CD's anymore, other than
>>>>the fact that to get uncompressed audio down most of the
>>>>isp's we use would simply take too long. That will change too.
>>>>
>>>>Amazing.
>>>>
>>>>DC
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: I learned something new about iPods [message #90864 is a reply to message #90860] |
Mon, 01 October 2007 08:43 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
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If you use the lossless compression you could fit roughly twice as many
CDs. Just in case you ever need to add more than 100...
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
DC wrote:
> Yeah, it's like the first time I made a phone call from a moving car...
>
> "I can't believe I'm doing this".
>
> Listening to totally uncompressed music on an iPod...
>
> Now, you only get 100 CD's or so on the 80G model, but that is plenty
> for me...
>
> DC
>
>
> "scotth" <fresnelmusic@comcast.net> wrote:
>> I had been an iPod critic up to this latest release... to me, the models
> with
>> the type of storage I wanted were WAY too expensive...
>>
>> when the new "classic" came out I just couldn't pass up the 80g for $250
>> price point... it finally became a sexy piece of gear...
>>
>> so... the day after they came out, I purchased one...
>>
>> I must say... I have run some uncompressed disks over to it, as well as
> some
>> MP3... it really does sound fabulous uncompressed..and in the environment
>> to which I use it... damn near as good compressed... .
>>
>> I usually listen to it in my truck.. if I am listening to something critical...
>> it is not through headphones, it is not in the car... it is off of my media
>> PC direct into my system... it has all same stuff that the iPod now has
> (plus
>> a ton more) ... the killer app. for me was the opportunity to leave all
> my
>> CD's in the cases, in the rack... never to be touched (everything is already
>> on the media pc)... no more cd cases cluttering up the truck... just that
>> cute little chrome backed beauty in its clip on my dash... and a wire going
>> straight into the CD changer input on my car stereo....
>>
>> its been a lot of fun to see what comes up next on shuffle...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>> Yeah, 400 is a bunch O' work...
>>>
>>> DC
>>>
>>> "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>> Boy am I glad I ripped my entire CD collection to uncompressed .wav files
>>>> instead of some other format.
>>>>
>>>> I can't imagine ripping 400 CDs again!
>>>>
>>>> Chuck
>>>> "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>> But seriously, do oyu guys realize that we now have a player
>>>>> (iPod Classic 160G) that can hold more than 200 CD's of
>>>>> totally uncompressed audio?
>>>>>
>>>>> There is now no reason ro not get one. None at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, there is really no reason for CD's anymore, other than
>>>>> the fact that to get uncompressed audio down most of the
>>>>> isp's we use would simply take too long. That will change too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Amazing.
>>>>>
>>>>> DC
>>>>>
>
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| Re: I learned something new about iPods [message #90883 is a reply to message #90864] |
Mon, 01 October 2007 14:22 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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I use FLAC encoding for most of my CD rips. Depends on the material but usually
the file size is cut nearly in half. Better than nothing.
TCB
Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>If you use the lossless compression you could fit roughly twice as many
>CDs. Just in case you ever need to add more than 100...
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>
>DC wrote:
>> Yeah, it's like the first time I made a phone call from a moving car...
>>
>> "I can't believe I'm doing this".
>>
>> Listening to totally uncompressed music on an iPod...
>>
>> Now, you only get 100 CD's or so on the 80G model, but that is plenty
>> for me...
>>
>> DC
>>
>>
>> "scotth" <fresnelmusic@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> I had been an iPod critic up to this latest release... to me, the models
>> with
>>> the type of storage I wanted were WAY too expensive...
>>>
>>> when the new "classic" came out I just couldn't pass up the 80g for $250
>>> price point... it finally became a sexy piece of gear...
>>>
>>> so... the day after they came out, I purchased one...
>>>
>>> I must say... I have run some uncompressed disks over to it, as well
as
>> some
>>> MP3... it really does sound fabulous uncompressed..and in the environment
>>> to which I use it... damn near as good compressed... .
>>>
>>> I usually listen to it in my truck.. if I am listening to something critical...
>>> it is not through headphones, it is not in the car... it is off of my
media
>>> PC direct into my system... it has all same stuff that the iPod now has
>> (plus
>>> a ton more) ... the killer app. for me was the opportunity to leave all
>> my
>>> CD's in the cases, in the rack... never to be touched (everything is
already
>>> on the media pc)... no more cd cases cluttering up the truck... just
that
>>> cute little chrome backed beauty in its clip on my dash... and a wire
going
>>> straight into the CD changer input on my car stereo....
>>>
>>> its been a lot of fun to see what comes up next on shuffle...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>> Yeah, 400 is a bunch O' work...
>>>>
>>>> DC
>>>>
>>>> "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>>> Boy am I glad I ripped my entire CD collection to uncompressed .wav
files
>>>>> instead of some other format.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't imagine ripping 400 CDs again!
>>>>>
>>>>> Chuck
>>>>> "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>>> But seriously, do oyu guys realize that we now have a player
>>>>>> (iPod Classic 160G) that can hold more than 200 CD's of
>>>>>> totally uncompressed audio?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is now no reason ro not get one. None at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, there is really no reason for CD's anymore, other than
>>>>>> the fact that to get uncompressed audio down most of the
>>>>>> isp's we use would simply take too long. That will change too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Amazing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DC
>>>>>>
>>
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