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| Re: XP lock up with 2.2 [message #65927] |
Wed, 29 March 2006 12:13  |
Ted
Messages: 3
Registered: March 2006
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I hope someone can help me with this same lock up issue. I have just switched
over my Paris system to a new PC. It is an AMD 3800 dual core processor on
an ASUS MB. I have only Paris loaded on it so far. I have loaded the XP drivers
and effects subsystem. I still run Paris 2.2. I had no problems with my previous
PC runing on XP other than it was slow. Now I get the same symptoms as Wayne
did on this new system. Paris just locks up. I have tried following all of
the tweaks and still no luck. Does anyone else have an other ideas?
Thanks
"Wayne Carson" <carson_wayne@msn.com> wrote:
>Dave and Aaron,
>
>Freeze up no more!!!!!!!!!
>
>Previously I had only read the posted letters back a week. I since learned
>how to get the next 50 or 100 or 1,000. It's my first time in a newgroup.
>It took some time, about 9 hours but I went back to Aug 2003 and reviewed
>every posting (about 12,000) pertaining to XP and Paris (about a thousand)
>and found a posting by Daniel Keller on "Optimizing windows 2000 and XP
for
>Audio System Performance Tweaks - Stuff to do after installing. I copied
>it, did everything it said, except, I did not turn off system restore to
my
>C: drive, I did not modify my auto start settings (msconfig) and I did not
>disable logging with "diskperf -n" and WHA-LA! Paris 2.2 now runs
>flawlessly. I wish I kept it in my mail box so that I could tell you when
>it posted. Since my computer is new from Dell, it came pre installed with
>XP home.
>
>Additionally, I found many postings with awesome information. Kim is the
>bomb, as are you guys. I read a heated discussion on Paris vs other DAWs.
>The postings made me feel better about my Paris purchase. I have to admit,
>I was concerned when E-mu bought out Ensoniq and Creative Labs and it does
>seem as though my concerns were realized. No more manufacture support.
But
>I must say, in a kind way, that I was a bit pleased to learn that the other
>DAWs have just as many problems and are just as proprietary. I've used
>Paris since inception (v1.05) and have always ranted and raved about how
>cool it is. My brother uses an Apple with ProTools Lite. Some things are
>good about it and some things Paris kicks it.
>
>I read some issues on Nvidia G-Force video cards, which I have (5200) and
I
>may use some of those tips. I hear a difference when using WaveLab to
>correct DC offset and I appreciated the tips on that. I learned that my
>previous PafWav converter will not work and found two ways to do it. I'm
>still planning on using the dither download from your site (Dither v1.0b
>from Solution Tech, 1998) so I hope it works.
>
>My next steps are to begin re-enabling some of the items I disabled until
>Paris freezes. My display settings don't look quite as nice but is totally
>acceptable. As you remember, my only problem was that Paris would freeze.
>No hard crashes. I wrote down every step that I changed so I can monitor
my
>progress during the re-enabling process. And two. Put my simple Paris
>configuration (1MEC, 1 8-in and 1 EDS) to it's hardest test, (full
>automation, full submixs, 8 channel record in 24bit, etc).
>
>So far, I've left hyperthreading "on" (I'm a little reluctant to mess with
>my bios, I've done it before way back in 93 and it's a bit scary) as I use
>my single computer for home, business AND Paris, and I have not moved the
>EDS card out of slot #1 . . . yet!
>
>I've always wanted to upgrade to a second EDS card for 32 track live mixes
>vice 16 and and submixes, and more recently I've wanted to purchase v3.0.
>Now I have my doubts. From what I've read, upgrading to 3.0 without a
>second card may not be so good. Apparently, submix updating is not so
>solid. And aux 1 has some bleed issues. Lastly, for why I most wanted
to
>upgrade, midi capabilities. I wanted to bring midi data directly into Paris
>and edit it from there vice using my MR76 keyboard or Logic audio seqencer.
>But I've read that, and I'm qouting, Paris's midi capabilities are "lame",
>so I don't know now. Are the new EDS cards different from the one I have
>and will they work well together? Do they come with all the necessary
>cabling to master/slave both cards?
>
>Thank you, this newsgroup and XP updating fix's gurus. I feel loved! As
I
>explore XP with Paris, I'll post. But, would you assist me with one more
>subject. Please suggest an optimal Paris config settings that you might
use
>given what you know about my system per my original posting?
>
>Wayne
>
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| Re: XP lock up with 2.2 [message #65952 is a reply to message #65927] |
Wed, 29 March 2006 16:32  |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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Most likely it's the dual core. Paris is notoriously not cool with dual CPU
set ups.
AA
"Ted" <stgardham@rogers.com> wrote in message news:442aea78$1@linux...
>
> I hope someone can help me with this same lock up issue. I have just
> switched
> over my Paris system to a new PC. It is an AMD 3800 dual core processor on
> an ASUS MB. I have only Paris loaded on it so far. I have loaded the XP
> drivers
> and effects subsystem. I still run Paris 2.2. I had no problems with my
> previous
> PC runing on XP other than it was slow. Now I get the same symptoms as
> Wayne
> did on this new system. Paris just locks up. I have tried following all of
> the tweaks and still no luck. Does anyone else have an other ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> "Wayne Carson" <carson_wayne@msn.com> wrote:
>>Dave and Aaron,
>>
>>Freeze up no more!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>Previously I had only read the posted letters back a week. I since
>>learned
>>how to get the next 50 or 100 or 1,000. It's my first time in a newgroup.
>>It took some time, about 9 hours but I went back to Aug 2003 and reviewed
>>every posting (about 12,000) pertaining to XP and Paris (about a thousand)
>>and found a posting by Daniel Keller on "Optimizing windows 2000 and XP
> for
>>Audio System Performance Tweaks - Stuff to do after installing. I copied
>>it, did everything it said, except, I did not turn off system restore to
> my
>>C: drive, I did not modify my auto start settings (msconfig) and I did not
>>disable logging with "diskperf -n" and WHA-LA! Paris 2.2 now runs
>>flawlessly. I wish I kept it in my mail box so that I could tell you when
>>it posted. Since my computer is new from Dell, it came pre installed with
>>XP home.
>>
>>Additionally, I found many postings with awesome information. Kim is the
>>bomb, as are you guys. I read a heated discussion on Paris vs other DAWs.
>>The postings made me feel better about my Paris purchase. I have to
>>admit,
>>I was concerned when E-mu bought out Ensoniq and Creative Labs and it does
>>seem as though my concerns were realized. No more manufacture support.
> But
>>I must say, in a kind way, that I was a bit pleased to learn that the
>>other
>>DAWs have just as many problems and are just as proprietary. I've used
>>Paris since inception (v1.05) and have always ranted and raved about how
>>cool it is. My brother uses an Apple with ProTools Lite. Some things are
>>good about it and some things Paris kicks it.
>>
>>I read some issues on Nvidia G-Force video cards, which I have (5200) and
> I
>>may use some of those tips. I hear a difference when using WaveLab to
>>correct DC offset and I appreciated the tips on that. I learned that my
>>previous PafWav converter will not work and found two ways to do it. I'm
>>still planning on using the dither download from your site (Dither v1.0b
>>from Solution Tech, 1998) so I hope it works.
>>
>>My next steps are to begin re-enabling some of the items I disabled until
>>Paris freezes. My display settings don't look quite as nice but is
>>totally
>>acceptable. As you remember, my only problem was that Paris would freeze.
>>No hard crashes. I wrote down every step that I changed so I can monitor
> my
>>progress during the re-enabling process. And two. Put my simple Paris
>>configuration (1MEC, 1 8-in and 1 EDS) to it's hardest test, (full
>>automation, full submixs, 8 channel record in 24bit, etc).
>>
>>So far, I've left hyperthreading "on" (I'm a little reluctant to mess with
>>my bios, I've done it before way back in 93 and it's a bit scary) as I use
>>my single computer for home, business AND Paris, and I have not moved the
>>EDS card out of slot #1 . . . yet!
>>
>>I've always wanted to upgrade to a second EDS card for 32 track live mixes
>>vice 16 and and submixes, and more recently I've wanted to purchase v3.0.
>>Now I have my doubts. From what I've read, upgrading to 3.0 without a
>>second card may not be so good. Apparently, submix updating is not so
>>solid. And aux 1 has some bleed issues. Lastly, for why I most wanted
> to
>>upgrade, midi capabilities. I wanted to bring midi data directly into
>>Paris
>>and edit it from there vice using my MR76 keyboard or Logic audio
>>seqencer.
>>But I've read that, and I'm qouting, Paris's midi capabilities are "lame",
>>so I don't know now. Are the new EDS cards different from the one I have
>>and will they work well together? Do they come with all the necessary
>>cabling to master/slave both cards?
>>
>>Thank you, this newsgroup and XP updating fix's gurus. I feel loved! As
> I
>>explore XP with Paris, I'll post. But, would you assist me with one more
>>subject. Please suggest an optimal Paris config settings that you might
> use
>>given what you know about my system per my original posting?
>>
>>Wayne
>>
>
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| Re: XP lock up with 2.2 [message #65977 is a reply to message #65952] |
Thu, 30 March 2006 19:30 |
Ted
Messages: 3
Registered: March 2006
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Well that would suck. A little too late t change my PC now. I wonder if there
is a way to configure the CPU to operate differently. ie: emulate a single
core.
It is an intermittent issue at this point so I am not dead in the water.
Pretty much every time I start up Paris everything is ok except the odd time
the 442 is not recognized. It is when I open an existing project that it
sometimes locks up. Usually once it works ok it stays fine.
Ted
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Most likely it's the dual core. Paris is notoriously not cool with dual
CPU
>set ups.
>AA
>
>
>"Ted" <stgardham@rogers.com> wrote in message news:442aea78$1@linux...
>>
>> I hope someone can help me with this same lock up issue. I have just
>> switched
>> over my Paris system to a new PC. It is an AMD 3800 dual core processor
on
>> an ASUS MB. I have only Paris loaded on it so far. I have loaded the XP
>> drivers
>> and effects subsystem. I still run Paris 2.2. I had no problems with my
>> previous
>> PC runing on XP other than it was slow. Now I get the same symptoms as
>> Wayne
>> did on this new system. Paris just locks up. I have tried following all
of
>> the tweaks and still no luck. Does anyone else have an other ideas?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> "Wayne Carson" <carson_wayne@msn.com> wrote:
>>>Dave and Aaron,
>>>
>>>Freeze up no more!!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>>Previously I had only read the posted letters back a week. I since
>>>learned
>>>how to get the next 50 or 100 or 1,000. It's my first time in a newgroup.
>>>It took some time, about 9 hours but I went back to Aug 2003 and reviewed
>>>every posting (about 12,000) pertaining to XP and Paris (about a thousand)
>>>and found a posting by Daniel Keller on "Optimizing windows 2000 and XP
>> for
>>>Audio System Performance Tweaks - Stuff to do after installing. I copied
>>>it, did everything it said, except, I did not turn off system restore
to
>> my
>>>C: drive, I did not modify my auto start settings (msconfig) and I did
not
>>>disable logging with "diskperf -n" and WHA-LA! Paris 2.2 now runs
>>>flawlessly. I wish I kept it in my mail box so that I could tell you
when
>>>it posted. Since my computer is new from Dell, it came pre installed
with
>>>XP home.
>>>
>>>Additionally, I found many postings with awesome information. Kim is
the
>>>bomb, as are you guys. I read a heated discussion on Paris vs other DAWs.
>>>The postings made me feel better about my Paris purchase. I have to
>>>admit,
>>>I was concerned when E-mu bought out Ensoniq and Creative Labs and it
does
>>>seem as though my concerns were realized. No more manufacture support.
>> But
>>>I must say, in a kind way, that I was a bit pleased to learn that the
>>>other
>>>DAWs have just as many problems and are just as proprietary. I've used
>>>Paris since inception (v1.05) and have always ranted and raved about how
>>>cool it is. My brother uses an Apple with ProTools Lite. Some things
are
>>>good about it and some things Paris kicks it.
>>>
>>>I read some issues on Nvidia G-Force video cards, which I have (5200)
and
>> I
>>>may use some of those tips. I hear a difference when using WaveLab to
>>>correct DC offset and I appreciated the tips on that. I learned that
my
>>>previous PafWav converter will not work and found two ways to do it.
I'm
>>>still planning on using the dither download from your site (Dither v1.0b
>>>from Solution Tech, 1998) so I hope it works.
>>>
>>>My next steps are to begin re-enabling some of the items I disabled until
>>>Paris freezes. My display settings don't look quite as nice but is
>>>totally
>>>acceptable. As you remember, my only problem was that Paris would freeze.
>>>No hard crashes. I wrote down every step that I changed so I can monitor
>> my
>>>progress during the re-enabling process. And two. Put my simple Paris
>>>configuration (1MEC, 1 8-in and 1 EDS) to it's hardest test, (full
>>>automation, full submixs, 8 channel record in 24bit, etc).
>>>
>>>So far, I've left hyperthreading "on" (I'm a little reluctant to mess
with
>>>my bios, I've done it before way back in 93 and it's a bit scary) as I
use
>>>my single computer for home, business AND Paris, and I have not moved
the
>>>EDS card out of slot #1 . . . yet!
>>>
>>>I've always wanted to upgrade to a second EDS card for 32 track live mixes
>>>vice 16 and and submixes, and more recently I've wanted to purchase v3.0.
>>>Now I have my doubts. From what I've read, upgrading to 3.0 without a
>>>second card may not be so good. Apparently, submix updating is not so
>>>solid. And aux 1 has some bleed issues. Lastly, for why I most wanted
>> to
>>>upgrade, midi capabilities. I wanted to bring midi data directly into
>>>Paris
>>>and edit it from there vice using my MR76 keyboard or Logic audio
>>>seqencer.
>>>But I've read that, and I'm qouting, Paris's midi capabilities are "lame",
>>>so I don't know now. Are the new EDS cards different from the one I have
>>>and will they work well together? Do they come with all the necessary
>>>cabling to master/slave both cards?
>>>
>>>Thank you, this newsgroup and XP updating fix's gurus. I feel loved!
As
>> I
>>>explore XP with Paris, I'll post. But, would you assist me with one more
>>>subject. Please suggest an optimal Paris config settings that you might
>> use
>>>given what you know about my system per my original posting?
>>>
>>>Wayne
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: XP lock up with 2.2 [message #65978 is a reply to message #65977] |
Thu, 30 March 2006 20:57 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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Senior Member |
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Ted,
There was a thread a few weeks back talking about the possibility of running
windows with a switch in a config file (don't remember which) which adjusted
the way the dual processor worked, and it seemed to show promise. There were
two switches. One turned the second core off, which would reduce power (but
you could have multiple boots so other apps could still use the second core),
and the other option switched the processor usage so that any single application
would only use a single processor, hence Paris would run under one of the
processors, but Windows itself could make use of the other, or other apps
you were running (eg if you had Cubase running as well, or Wavelab).
It seemed to show promise. I expect you'll be able to get things working
if you can find the thread. ;o) You'll lose some power, but I'm guessing
you don't need all that power for Paris anyhow.
Cheers,
Kim.
"Ted" <stgardham@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>Well that would suck. A little too late t change my PC now. I wonder if
there
>is a way to configure the CPU to operate differently. ie: emulate a single
>core.
>
>It is an intermittent issue at this point so I am not dead in the water.
>Pretty much every time I start up Paris everything is ok except the odd
time
>the 442 is not recognized. It is when I open an existing project that it
>sometimes locks up. Usually once it works ok it stays fine.
>
>Ted
>
>
>
>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>Most likely it's the dual core. Paris is notoriously not cool with dual
>CPU
>>set ups.
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"Ted" <stgardham@rogers.com> wrote in message news:442aea78$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I hope someone can help me with this same lock up issue. I have just
>>> switched
>>> over my Paris system to a new PC. It is an AMD 3800 dual core processor
>on
>>> an ASUS MB. I have only Paris loaded on it so far. I have loaded the
XP
>
>>> drivers
>>> and effects subsystem. I still run Paris 2.2. I had no problems with
my
>
>>> previous
>>> PC runing on XP other than it was slow. Now I get the same symptoms as
>
>>> Wayne
>>> did on this new system. Paris just locks up. I have tried following all
>of
>>> the tweaks and still no luck. Does anyone else have an other ideas?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> "Wayne Carson" <carson_wayne@msn.com> wrote:
>>>>Dave and Aaron,
>>>>
>>>>Freeze up no more!!!!!!!!!
>>>>
>>>>Previously I had only read the posted letters back a week. I since
>>>>learned
>>>>how to get the next 50 or 100 or 1,000. It's my first time in a newgroup.
>>>>It took some time, about 9 hours but I went back to Aug 2003 and reviewed
>>>>every posting (about 12,000) pertaining to XP and Paris (about a thousand)
>>>>and found a posting by Daniel Keller on "Optimizing windows 2000 and
XP
>>> for
>>>>Audio System Performance Tweaks - Stuff to do after installing. I copied
>>>>it, did everything it said, except, I did not turn off system restore
>to
>>> my
>>>>C: drive, I did not modify my auto start settings (msconfig) and I did
>not
>>>>disable logging with "diskperf -n" and WHA-LA! Paris 2.2 now runs
>>>>flawlessly. I wish I kept it in my mail box so that I could tell you
>when
>>>>it posted. Since my computer is new from Dell, it came pre installed
>with
>>>>XP home.
>>>>
>>>>Additionally, I found many postings with awesome information. Kim is
>the
>>>>bomb, as are you guys. I read a heated discussion on Paris vs other
DAWs.
>>>>The postings made me feel better about my Paris purchase. I have to
>>>>admit,
>>>>I was concerned when E-mu bought out Ensoniq and Creative Labs and it
>does
>>>>seem as though my concerns were realized. No more manufacture support.
>>> But
>>>>I must say, in a kind way, that I was a bit pleased to learn that the
>
>>>>other
>>>>DAWs have just as many problems and are just as proprietary. I've used
>>>>Paris since inception (v1.05) and have always ranted and raved about
how
>>>>cool it is. My brother uses an Apple with ProTools Lite. Some things
>are
>>>>good about it and some things Paris kicks it.
>>>>
>>>>I read some issues on Nvidia G-Force video cards, which I have (5200)
>and
>>> I
>>>>may use some of those tips. I hear a difference when using WaveLab to
>>>>correct DC offset and I appreciated the tips on that. I learned that
>my
>>>>previous PafWav converter will not work and found two ways to do it.
>I'm
>>>>still planning on using the dither download from your site (Dither v1.0b
>>>>from Solution Tech, 1998) so I hope it works.
>>>>
>>>>My next steps are to begin re-enabling some of the items I disabled until
>>>>Paris freezes. My display settings don't look quite as nice but is
>>>>totally
>>>>acceptable. As you remember, my only problem was that Paris would freeze.
>>>>No hard crashes. I wrote down every step that I changed so I can monitor
>>> my
>>>>progress during the re-enabling process. And two. Put my simple Paris
>>>>configuration (1MEC, 1 8-in and 1 EDS) to it's hardest test, (full
>>>>automation, full submixs, 8 channel record in 24bit, etc).
>>>>
>>>>So far, I've left hyperthreading "on" (I'm a little reluctant to mess
>with
>>>>my bios, I've done it before way back in 93 and it's a bit scary) as
I
>use
>>>>my single computer for home, business AND Paris, and I have not moved
>the
>>>>EDS card out of slot #1 . . . yet!
>>>>
>>>>I've always wanted to upgrade to a second EDS card for 32 track live
mixes
>>>>vice 16 and and submixes, and more recently I've wanted to purchase v3.0.
>>>>Now I have my doubts. From what I've read, upgrading to 3.0 without
a
>>>>second card may not be so good. Apparently, submix updating is not so
>>>>solid. And aux 1 has some bleed issues. Lastly, for why I most wanted
>>> to
>>>>upgrade, midi capabilities. I wanted to bring midi data directly into
>
>>>>Paris
>>>>and edit it from there vice using my MR76 keyboard or Logic audio
>>>>seqencer.
>>>>But I've read that, and I'm qouting, Paris's midi capabilities are "lame",
>>>>so I don't know now. Are the new EDS cards different from the one I
have
>>>>and will they work well together? Do they come with all the necessary
>>>>cabling to master/slave both cards?
>>>>
>>>>Thank you, this newsgroup and XP updating fix's gurus. I feel loved!
> As
>>> I
>>>>explore XP with Paris, I'll post. But, would you assist me with one
more
>>>>subject. Please suggest an optimal Paris config settings that you might
>>> use
>>>>given what you know about my system per my original posting?
>>>>
>>>>Wayne
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>
>>
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| Re: XP lock up with 2.2 [message #65979 is a reply to message #65977] |
Thu, 30 March 2006 20:58 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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Senior Member |
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Here, read this...
http://news.parisnewsgroup.com/cgi-bin/dnewsweb?utag=&gr oup=IDEA.EMUEnsoniqPARIS&xrelated=175456&cmd_related =Related+Items
Cheers,
Kim.
"Ted" <stgardham@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>Well that would suck. A little too late t change my PC now. I wonder if
there
>is a way to configure the CPU to operate differently. ie: emulate a single
>core.
>
>It is an intermittent issue at this point so I am not dead in the water.
>Pretty much every time I start up Paris everything is ok except the odd
time
>the 442 is not recognized. It is when I open an existing project that it
>sometimes locks up. Usually once it works ok it stays fine.
>
>Ted
>
>
>
>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>Most likely it's the dual core. Paris is notoriously not cool with dual
>CPU
>>set ups.
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"Ted" <stgardham@rogers.com> wrote in message news:442aea78$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I hope someone can help me with this same lock up issue. I have just
>>> switched
>>> over my Paris system to a new PC. It is an AMD 3800 dual core processor
>on
>>> an ASUS MB. I have only Paris loaded on it so far. I have loaded the
XP
>
>>> drivers
>>> and effects subsystem. I still run Paris 2.2. I had no problems with
my
>
>>> previous
>>> PC runing on XP other than it was slow. Now I get the same symptoms as
>
>>> Wayne
>>> did on this new system. Paris just locks up. I have tried following all
>of
>>> the tweaks and still no luck. Does anyone else have an other ideas?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> "Wayne Carson" <carson_wayne@msn.com> wrote:
>>>>Dave and Aaron,
>>>>
>>>>Freeze up no more!!!!!!!!!
>>>>
>>>>Previously I had only read the posted letters back a week. I since
>>>>learned
>>>>how to get the next 50 or 100 or 1,000. It's my first time in a newgroup.
>>>>It took some time, about 9 hours but I went back to Aug 2003 and reviewed
>>>>every posting (about 12,000) pertaining to XP and Paris (about a thousand)
>>>>and found a posting by Daniel Keller on "Optimizing windows 2000 and
XP
>>> for
>>>>Audio System Performance Tweaks - Stuff to do after installing. I copied
>>>>it, did everything it said, except, I did not turn off system restore
>to
>>> my
>>>>C: drive, I did not modify my auto start settings (msconfig) and I did
>not
>>>>disable logging with "diskperf -n" and WHA-LA! Paris 2.2 now runs
>>>>flawlessly. I wish I kept it in my mail box so that I could tell you
>when
>>>>it posted. Since my computer is new from Dell, it came pre installed
>with
>>>>XP home.
>>>>
>>>>Additionally, I found many postings with awesome information. Kim is
>the
>>>>bomb, as are you guys. I read a heated discussion on Paris vs other
DAWs.
>>>>The postings made me feel better about my Paris purchase. I have to
>>>>admit,
>>>>I was concerned when E-mu bought out Ensoniq and Creative Labs and it
>does
>>>>seem as though my concerns were realized. No more manufacture support.
>>> But
>>>>I must say, in a kind way, that I was a bit pleased to learn that the
>
>>>>other
>>>>DAWs have just as many problems and are just as proprietary. I've used
>>>>Paris since inception (v1.05) and have always ranted and raved about
how
>>>>cool it is. My brother uses an Apple with ProTools Lite. Some things
>are
>>>>good about it and some things Paris kicks it.
>>>>
>>>>I read some issues on Nvidia G-Force video cards, which I have (5200)
>and
>>> I
>>>>may use some of those tips. I hear a difference when using WaveLab to
>>>>correct DC offset and I appreciated the tips on that. I learned that
>my
>>>>previous PafWav converter will not work and found two ways to do it.
>I'm
>>>>still planning on using the dither download from your site (Dither v1.0b
>>>>from Solution Tech, 1998) so I hope it works.
>>>>
>>>>My next steps are to begin re-enabling some of the items I disabled until
>>>>Paris freezes. My display settings don't look quite as nice but is
>>>>totally
>>>>acceptable. As you remember, my only problem was that Paris would freeze.
>>>>No hard crashes. I wrote down every step that I changed so I can monitor
>>> my
>>>>progress during the re-enabling process. And two. Put my simple Paris
>>>>configuration (1MEC, 1 8-in and 1 EDS) to it's hardest test, (full
>>>>automation, full submixs, 8 channel record in 24bit, etc).
>>>>
>>>>So far, I've left hyperthreading "on" (I'm a little reluctant to mess
>with
>>>>my bios, I've done it before way back in 93 and it's a bit scary) as
I
>use
>>>>my single computer for home, business AND Paris, and I have not moved
>the
>>>>EDS card out of slot #1 . . . yet!
>>>>
>>>>I've always wanted to upgrade to a second EDS card for 32 track live
mixes
>>>>vice 16 and and submixes, and more recently I've wanted to purchase v3.0.
>>>>Now I have my doubts. From what I've read, upgrading to 3.0 without
a
>>>>second card may not be so good. Apparently, submix updating is not so
>>>>solid. And aux 1 has some bleed issues. Lastly, for why I most wanted
>>> to
>>>>upgrade, midi capabilities. I wanted to bring midi data directly into
>
>>>>Paris
>>>>and edit it from there vice using my MR76 keyboard or Logic audio
>>>>seqencer.
>>>>But I've read that, and I'm qouting, Paris's midi capabilities are "lame",
>>>>so I don't know now. Are the new EDS cards different from the one I
have
>>>>and will they work well together? Do they come with all the necessary
>>>>cabling to master/slave both cards?
>>>>
>>>>Thank you, this newsgroup and XP updating fix's gurus. I feel loved!
> As
>>> I
>>>>explore XP with Paris, I'll post. But, would you assist me with one
more
>>>>subject. Please suggest an optimal Paris config settings that you might
>>> use
>>>>given what you know about my system per my original posting?
>>>>
>>>>Wayne
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>
>>
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| Re: XP lock up with 2.2 [message #65980 is a reply to message #65977] |
Thu, 30 March 2006 20:52 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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Senior Member |
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If you have more than one Control 16, remove all but one. I understand that
aggrevates and accelerates the degradation of stability more quickly. You
might also look backwards at posts about a month, I think there were some
threads on disabling the second core in some way... I'm afraid I did not
keep track of them as I am still on an old but stableAMD1900+, but surely
someone here did.
AA
"Ted" <stgardham@rogers.com> wrote in message news:442ca238$1@linux...
>
> Well that would suck. A little too late t change my PC now. I wonder if
> there
> is a way to configure the CPU to operate differently. ie: emulate a single
> core.
>
> It is an intermittent issue at this point so I am not dead in the water.
> Pretty much every time I start up Paris everything is ok except the odd
> time
> the 442 is not recognized. It is when I open an existing project that it
> sometimes locks up. Usually once it works ok it stays fine.
>
> Ted
>
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>Most likely it's the dual core. Paris is notoriously not cool with dual
> CPU
>>set ups.
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"Ted" <stgardham@rogers.com> wrote in message news:442aea78$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I hope someone can help me with this same lock up issue. I have just
>>> switched
>>> over my Paris system to a new PC. It is an AMD 3800 dual core processor
> on
>>> an ASUS MB. I have only Paris loaded on it so far. I have loaded the XP
>
>>> drivers
>>> and effects subsystem. I still run Paris 2.2. I had no problems with my
>
>>> previous
>>> PC runing on XP other than it was slow. Now I get the same symptoms as
>
>>> Wayne
>>> did on this new system. Paris just locks up. I have tried following all
> of
>>> the tweaks and still no luck. Does anyone else have an other ideas?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> "Wayne Carson" <carson_wayne@msn.com> wrote:
>>>>Dave and Aaron,
>>>>
>>>>Freeze up no more!!!!!!!!!
>>>>
>>>>Previously I had only read the posted letters back a week. I since
>>>>learned
>>>>how to get the next 50 or 100 or 1,000. It's my first time in a
>>>>newgroup.
>>>>It took some time, about 9 hours but I went back to Aug 2003 and
>>>>reviewed
>>>>every posting (about 12,000) pertaining to XP and Paris (about a
>>>>thousand)
>>>>and found a posting by Daniel Keller on "Optimizing windows 2000 and XP
>>> for
>>>>Audio System Performance Tweaks - Stuff to do after installing. I
>>>>copied
>>>>it, did everything it said, except, I did not turn off system restore
> to
>>> my
>>>>C: drive, I did not modify my auto start settings (msconfig) and I did
> not
>>>>disable logging with "diskperf -n" and WHA-LA! Paris 2.2 now runs
>>>>flawlessly. I wish I kept it in my mail box so that I could tell you
> when
>>>>it posted. Since my computer is new from Dell, it came pre installed
> with
>>>>XP home.
>>>>
>>>>Additionally, I found many postings with awesome information. Kim is
> the
>>>>bomb, as are you guys. I read a heated discussion on Paris vs other
>>>>DAWs.
>>>>The postings made me feel better about my Paris purchase. I have to
>>>>admit,
>>>>I was concerned when E-mu bought out Ensoniq and Creative Labs and it
> does
>>>>seem as though my concerns were realized. No more manufacture support.
>>> But
>>>>I must say, in a kind way, that I was a bit pleased to learn that the
>
>>>>other
>>>>DAWs have just as many problems and are just as proprietary. I've used
>>>>Paris since inception (v1.05) and have always ranted and raved about how
>>>>cool it is. My brother uses an Apple with ProTools Lite. Some things
> are
>>>>good about it and some things Paris kicks it.
>>>>
>>>>I read some issues on Nvidia G-Force video cards, which I have (5200)
> and
>>> I
>>>>may use some of those tips. I hear a difference when using WaveLab to
>>>>correct DC offset and I appreciated the tips on that. I learned that
> my
>>>>previous PafWav converter will not work and found two ways to do it.
> I'm
>>>>still planning on using the dither download from your site (Dither v1.0b
>>>>from Solution Tech, 1998) so I hope it works.
>>>>
>>>>My next steps are to begin re-enabling some of the items I disabled
>>>>until
>>>>Paris freezes. My display settings don't look quite as nice but is
>>>>totally
>>>>acceptable. As you remember, my only problem was that Paris would
>>>>freeze.
>>>>No hard crashes. I wrote down every step that I changed so I can
>>>>monitor
>>> my
>>>>progress during the re-enabling process. And two. Put my simple Paris
>>>>configuration (1MEC, 1 8-in and 1 EDS) to it's hardest test, (full
>>>>automation, full submixs, 8 channel record in 24bit, etc).
>>>>
>>>>So far, I've left hyperthreading "on" (I'm a little reluctant to mess
> with
>>>>my bios, I've done it before way back in 93 and it's a bit scary) as I
> use
>>>>my single computer for home, business AND Paris, and I have not moved
> the
>>>>EDS card out of slot #1 . . . yet!
>>>>
>>>>I've always wanted to upgrade to a second EDS card for 32 track live
>>>>mixes
>>>>vice 16 and and submixes, and more recently I've wanted to purchase
>>>>v3.0.
>>>>Now I have my doubts. From what I've read, upgrading to 3.0 without a
>>>>second card may not be so good. Apparently, submix updating is not so
>>>>solid. And aux 1 has some bleed issues. Lastly, for why I most wanted
>>> to
>>>>upgrade, midi capabilities. I wanted to bring midi data directly into
>
>>>>Paris
>>>>and edit it from there vice using my MR76 keyboard or Logic audio
>>>>seqencer.
>>>>But I've read that, and I'm qouting, Paris's midi capabilities are
>>>>"lame",
>>>>so I don't know now. Are the new EDS cards different from the one I
>>>>have
>>>>and will they work well together? Do they come with all the necessary
>>>>cabling to master/slave both cards?
>>>>
>>>>Thank you, this newsgroup and XP updating fix's gurus. I feel loved!
> As
>>> I
>>>>explore XP with Paris, I'll post. But, would you assist me with one
>>>>more
>>>>subject. Please suggest an optimal Paris config settings that you might
>>> use
>>>>given what you know about my system per my original posting?
>>>>
>>>>Wayne
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>
>>
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| Re: XP lock up with 2.2 [message #65988 is a reply to message #65952] |
Fri, 31 March 2006 03:24 |
Ed
Messages: 199
Registered: February 2006
|
Senior Member |
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Not true about dual CPU. I have offered repeatedly on here about my setup
that I ran for years without no problems. However, it was a dual pentium
running on windows 2000. It ran flawlessly except the shut down, but I
lived with that. Brian T. asked everyone what their setup was and it
appeared I was the only one that was running a dual pentium processor, but
others were having issue with the AMD dual. So I know for a fact that dual
pentium work. In fact I am on a super fast pentium 4 now and I still
believe that my older dual pentium was faster on everything... screen writes
(and I am using the same Matrox G-450 video card) and just useage. I'd go
back to the dual pentium but the prices went through the roof on the
motherboards... so I just went with a Pentium 4.
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message news:442b28af@linux...
> Most likely it's the dual core. Paris is notoriously not cool with dual
CPU
> set ups.
> AA
>
>
> "Ted" <stgardham@rogers.com> wrote in message news:442aea78$1@linux...
> >
> > I hope someone can help me with this same lock up issue. I have just
> > switched
> > over my Paris system to a new PC. It is an AMD 3800 dual core processor
on
> > an ASUS MB. I have only Paris loaded on it so far. I have loaded the XP
> > drivers
> > and effects subsystem. I still run Paris 2.2. I had no problems with my
> > previous
> > PC runing on XP other than it was slow. Now I get the same symptoms as
> > Wayne
> > did on this new system. Paris just locks up. I have tried following all
of
> > the tweaks and still no luck. Does anyone else have an other ideas?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > "Wayne Carson" <carson_wayne@msn.com> wrote:
> >>Dave and Aaron,
> >>
> >>Freeze up no more!!!!!!!!!
> >>
> >>Previously I had only read the posted letters back a week. I since
> >>learned
> >>how to get the next 50 or 100 or 1,000. It's my first time in a
newgroup.
> >>It took some time, about 9 hours but I went back to Aug 2003 and
reviewed
> >>every posting (about 12,000) pertaining to XP and Paris (about a
thousand)
> >>and found a posting by Daniel Keller on "Optimizing windows 2000 and XP
> > for
> >>Audio System Performance Tweaks - Stuff to do after installing. I
copied
> >>it, did everything it said, except, I did not turn off system restore
to
> > my
> >>C: drive, I did not modify my auto start settings (msconfig) and I did
not
> >>disable logging with "diskperf -n" and WHA-LA! Paris 2.2 now runs
> >>flawlessly. I wish I kept it in my mail box so that I could tell you
when
> >>it posted. Since my computer is new from Dell, it came pre installed
with
> >>XP home.
> >>
> >>Additionally, I found many postings with awesome information. Kim is
the
> >>bomb, as are you guys. I read a heated discussion on Paris vs other
DAWs.
> >>The postings made me feel better about my Paris purchase. I have to
> >>admit,
> >>I was concerned when E-mu bought out Ensoniq and Creative Labs and it
does
> >>seem as though my concerns were realized. No more manufacture support.
> > But
> >>I must say, in a kind way, that I was a bit pleased to learn that the
> >>other
> >>DAWs have just as many problems and are just as proprietary. I've used
> >>Paris since inception (v1.05) and have always ranted and raved about how
> >>cool it is. My brother uses an Apple with ProTools Lite. Some things
are
> >>good about it and some things Paris kicks it.
> >>
> >>I read some issues on Nvidia G-Force video cards, which I have (5200)
and
> > I
> >>may use some of those tips. I hear a difference when using WaveLab to
> >>correct DC offset and I appreciated the tips on that. I learned that my
> >>previous PafWav converter will not work and found two ways to do it.
I'm
> >>still planning on using the dither download from your site (Dither v1.0b
> >>from Solution Tech, 1998) so I hope it works.
> >>
> >>My next steps are to begin re-enabling some of the items I disabled
until
> >>Paris freezes. My display settings don't look quite as nice but is
> >>totally
> >>acceptable. As you remember, my only problem was that Paris would
freeze.
> >>No hard crashes. I wrote down every step that I changed so I can
monitor
> > my
> >>progress during the re-enabling process. And two. Put my simple Paris
> >>configuration (1MEC, 1 8-in and 1 EDS) to it's hardest test, (full
> >>automation, full submixs, 8 channel record in 24bit, etc).
> >>
> >>So far, I've left hyperthreading "on" (I'm a little reluctant to mess
with
> >>my bios, I've done it before way back in 93 and it's a bit scary) as I
use
> >>my single computer for home, business AND Paris, and I have not moved
the
> >>EDS card out of slot #1 . . . yet!
> >>
> >>I've always wanted to upgrade to a second EDS card for 32 track live
mixes
> >>vice 16 and and submixes, and more recently I've wanted to purchase
v3.0.
> >>Now I have my doubts. From what I've read, upgrading to 3.0 without a
> >>second card may not be so good. Apparently, submix updating is not so
> >>solid. And aux 1 has some bleed issues. Lastly, for why I most wanted
> > to
> >>upgrade, midi capabilities. I wanted to bring midi data directly into
> >>Paris
> >>and edit it from there vice using my MR76 keyboard or Logic audio
> >>seqencer.
> >>But I've read that, and I'm qouting, Paris's midi capabilities are
"lame",
> >>so I don't know now. Are the new EDS cards different from the one I
have
> >>and will they work well together? Do they come with all the necessary
> >>cabling to master/slave both cards?
> >>
> >>Thank you, this newsgroup and XP updating fix's gurus. I feel loved!
As
> > I
> >>explore XP with Paris, I'll post. But, would you assist me with one
more
> >>subject. Please suggest an optimal Paris config settings that you might
> > use
> >>given what you know about my system per my original posting?
> >>
> >>Wayne
> >>
> >
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>
>
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