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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78132 is a reply to message #78120] |
Wed, 10 January 2007 09:46   |
excelav
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"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>Superior to WHAT??,
>Anything that Apple has done to date??
>--
>Martin Harrington
>www.lendanear-sound.com
Did you watch the iPhone video in it's entirety?
By the way, the Apple iPhone, and Apple TV are both PC compatible products!
You might want to watch the whole keynote.
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:45a468cb$1@linux...
>>
>> Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail, you might
>> want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are superior.
>>
>>
>> http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>
>>
>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. It like having
>>>a:
>>>MP3player
>>>Ms word,
>>>Excel,
>>>powerpoint,
>>>Outlook 2003,
>>>Media Player 10
>>>Sprint TV
>>>Camera
>>>Recorder
>>>Cool keyboard
>>>Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>
>>>This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket.. :)
>>>For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>>
>>>LaMont
>>>
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Some video highlights:
>>>>
>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20&subj=news
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>More and better pictures:
>>>>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is it a
>>>>>computer
>>>>>running Mac OSX???
>>>>>
>>>>>Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>
>>>>>Live blog
>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>
>>>>>Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>More to come!
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78133 is a reply to message #78110] |
Wed, 10 January 2007 09:52 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
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James,
Once again, you are "drinking the Apple Kool-aid" from Mr Jobs.
The Iphone is cool, but not revolutionary. My Treo 700Wx (Windows) is just
a s cool and Superior AND is very comaptible with my PC and all MS applications
and other Windows apps.
www.treo.com
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail, you might
>want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are superior.
>
>
>http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. It like having
>>a:
>>MP3player
>>Ms word,
>>Excel,
>>powerpoint,
>>Outlook 2003,
>>Media Player 10
>>Sprint TV
>>Camera
>>Recorder
>>Cool keyboard
>>Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>
>>This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket.. :)
>>For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>
>>LaMont
>>
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Some video highlights:
>>>
>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20&subj=news
>>>
>>>
>>>More and better pictures:
>>>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is it a computer
>>>>running Mac OSX???
>>>>
>>>>Meet the Beatles!
>>>>
>>>>Live blog
>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>
>>>>Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>
>>>>http://www.apple.com/
>>>>
>>>>More to come!
>>>
>>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78138 is a reply to message #78129] |
Wed, 10 January 2007 10:14 |
excelav
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"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>When you get your iPhone I'll race you on my BBerry 8700 to see who can
send
>a 50 word message fastest. And I'll bet you hash brownies to hash browns
>I'll clean your clock.
Nice challenge. However, I don't plan to buy one any time soon. It's a
cool James Bond toy, but I just don't have the need for it at this time.
I'll get one eventually, so I'll keep it in mind; )
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail, you might
>>want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are superior.
>>
>>
>>http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. It like having
>>>a:
>>>MP3player
>>>Ms word,
>>>Excel,
>>>powerpoint,
>>>Outlook 2003,
>>>Media Player 10
>>>Sprint TV
>>>Camera
>>>Recorder
>>>Cool keyboard
>>>Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>
>>>This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket.. :)
>>>For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>>
>>>LaMont
>>>
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Some video highlights:
>>>>
>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20&subj=news
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>More and better pictures:
>>>>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is it a computer
>>>>>running Mac OSX???
>>>>>
>>>>>Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>
>>>>>Live blog
>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>
>>>>>Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>More to come!
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78139 is a reply to message #78133] |
Wed, 10 January 2007 10:27 |
excelav
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Yes, the Treo and the BB are both vary cool products. No Kool-Aid here.
It's kind of hard to grasp the capabilities of the iPhone with out watching
the keynote video in it's entirety. Once again, check it out.
http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>James,
>Once again, you are "drinking the Apple Kool-aid" from Mr Jobs.
>
>The Iphone is cool, but not revolutionary. My Treo 700Wx (Windows) is just
>a s cool and Superior AND is very comaptible with my PC and all MS applications
>and other Windows apps.
>
>www.treo.com
>
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail, you might
>>want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are superior.
>>
>>
>>http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. It like having
>>>a:
>>>MP3player
>>>Ms word,
>>>Excel,
>>>powerpoint,
>>>Outlook 2003,
>>>Media Player 10
>>>Sprint TV
>>>Camera
>>>Recorder
>>>Cool keyboard
>>>Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>
>>>This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket.. :)
>>>For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>>
>>>LaMont
>>>
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Some video highlights:
>>>>
>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20&subj=news
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>More and better pictures:
>>>>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is it a computer
>>>>>running Mac OSX???
>>>>>
>>>>>Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>
>>>>>Live blog
>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>
>>>>>Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>More to come!
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78141 is a reply to message #78133] |
Wed, 10 January 2007 09:55 |
Jamie K
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Liking a product from a particular company isn't necessarily a koolaid
proposition. Sometimes engineers earn their fans.
In this case, it looks like Apple's engineers have done something
different from other options, with some unique interactive features and
UI implementations that may well be useful to a lot of people.
Just as Palm and Blackberry have engineered products that have earned
the loyalty and praise of people who have found they need the features
they provide.
We can speculate before the iPhone ships but I'll withhold my final
judgment until it's available to try.
Having said that, my first impression of all three, the iPhone, the
Treo, the Blackberry, is that they ALL seem too big and clumsy for phones.
So far, all I want from my phone is that it be a phone, and that it be
compact and pocketable. My little fliptop LG does the trick. That it's a
speakerphone is a bonus.
When I want a computer, I want something with a real screen and a
keyboard I can really type on, that runs my goto productivity
applications (video, audio, animation, and graphics apps, plus all my
open source office, web and email apps). Which means for those times
when I need a computer with me, I take my PowerBook.
When I need a camera, I want a real camera, currently a Canon digital SLR.
If I can get by with something small that I can type on, I use a Psion
PDA (like a mini-laptop). Also works as a voice recorder. Cool little
box but long discontinued.
I'm resisting the all-in-one device. What if it fails? That's a lot of
eggs in one basket. But I can see the appeal of the all-in-one if it
could really cover what I need. None of them quite do that now. None of
them.
But for people who have different needs, each of the clunky phones has
appealing features. And for those people, it's not a matter of koolaid,
it's a matter of using what works for them. What covers their needs.
Choice is good.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
LaMont wrote:
> James,
> Once again, you are "drinking the Apple Kool-aid" from Mr Jobs.
>
> The Iphone is cool, but not revolutionary. My Treo 700Wx (Windows) is just
> a s cool and Superior AND is very comaptible with my PC and all MS applications
> and other Windows apps.
>
> www.treo.com
>
>
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail, you might
>> want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are superior.
>>
>>
>> http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>
>>
>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>> Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. It like having
>>> a:
>>> MP3player
>>> Ms word,
>>> Excel,
>>> powerpoint,
>>> Outlook 2003,
>>> Media Player 10
>>> Sprint TV
>>> Camera
>>> Recorder
>>> Cool keyboard
>>> Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>
>>> This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket.. :)
>>> For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>>
>>> LaMont
>>>
>>>
>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Some video highlights:
>>>>
>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20&subj=news
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> More and better pictures:
>>>> http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is it a computer
>>>>> running Mac OSX???
>>>>>
>>>>> Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>
>>>>> Live blog
>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>
>>>>> Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>> http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> More to come!
>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78156 is a reply to message #78132] |
Wed, 10 January 2007 14:02 |
Martin Harrington
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I don't think so, got much better things to do with my time than listen to a
boring sales pitch.
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45a5184c$1@linux...
>
> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>Superior to WHAT??,
>>Anything that Apple has done to date??
>>--
>>Martin Harrington
>>www.lendanear-sound.com
>
> Did you watch the iPhone video in it's entirety?
>
> By the way, the Apple iPhone, and Apple TV are both PC compatible
> products!
>
> You might want to watch the whole keynote.
>
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:45a468cb$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail, you
>>> might
>>> want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are superior.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>>
>>>
>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. It like
>>>>having
>>>>a:
>>>>MP3player
>>>>Ms word,
>>>>Excel,
>>>>powerpoint,
>>>>Outlook 2003,
>>>>Media Player 10
>>>>Sprint TV
>>>>Camera
>>>>Recorder
>>>>Cool keyboard
>>>>Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>>
>>>>This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket.. :)
>>>>For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>>>
>>>>LaMont
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Some video highlights:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20&subj=news
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>More and better pictures:
>>>>>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is it a
>>>>>>computer
>>>>>>running Mac OSX???
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Live blog
>>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>>http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>More to come!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78157 is a reply to message #78141] |
Wed, 10 January 2007 14:07 |
Martin Harrington
Messages: 560
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As a beside...it has a 2 megapixel camera...wow...my Sony-Ericson K800i has
a 3.2 meg camera with autofocus, and most of the functions of the
iPhone...not all..but who wants all that in a phone...certainly not the
image conscious kids that will be sucked into buying one.
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:45a5259f@linux...
>
> Liking a product from a particular company isn't necessarily a koolaid
> proposition. Sometimes engineers earn their fans.
>
> In this case, it looks like Apple's engineers have done something
> different from other options, with some unique interactive features and UI
> implementations that may well be useful to a lot of people.
>
> Just as Palm and Blackberry have engineered products that have earned the
> loyalty and praise of people who have found they need the features they
> provide.
>
> We can speculate before the iPhone ships but I'll withhold my final
> judgment until it's available to try.
>
> Having said that, my first impression of all three, the iPhone, the Treo,
> the Blackberry, is that they ALL seem too big and clumsy for phones.
>
> So far, all I want from my phone is that it be a phone, and that it be
> compact and pocketable. My little fliptop LG does the trick. That it's a
> speakerphone is a bonus.
>
> When I want a computer, I want something with a real screen and a keyboard
> I can really type on, that runs my goto productivity applications (video,
> audio, animation, and graphics apps, plus all my open source office, web
> and email apps). Which means for those times when I need a computer with
> me, I take my PowerBook.
>
> When I need a camera, I want a real camera, currently a Canon digital SLR.
>
> If I can get by with something small that I can type on, I use a Psion PDA
> (like a mini-laptop). Also works as a voice recorder. Cool little box but
> long discontinued.
>
> I'm resisting the all-in-one device. What if it fails? That's a lot of
> eggs in one basket. But I can see the appeal of the all-in-one if it could
> really cover what I need. None of them quite do that now. None of them.
>
> But for people who have different needs, each of the clunky phones has
> appealing features. And for those people, it's not a matter of koolaid,
> it's a matter of using what works for them. What covers their needs.
> Choice is good.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> LaMont wrote:
>> James,
>> Once again, you are "drinking the Apple Kool-aid" from Mr Jobs.
>>
>> The Iphone is cool, but not revolutionary. My Treo 700Wx (Windows) is
>> just
>> a s cool and Superior AND is very comaptible with my PC and all MS
>> applications
>> and other Windows apps.
>>
>> www.treo.com
>>
>>
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail, you
>>> might
>>> want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are superior.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>>
>>>
>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>> Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. It like
>>>> having
>>>> a:
>>>> MP3player
>>>> Ms word,
>>>> Excel, powerpoint, Outlook 2003, Media Player 10
>>>> Sprint TV
>>>> Camera
>>>> Recorder
>>>> Cool keyboard
>>>> Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>>
>>>> This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket.. :)
>>>> For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>>>
>>>> LaMont
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Some video highlights:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20&subj=news
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> More and better pictures:
>>>>> http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is it a
>>>>>> computer
>>>>>> running Mac OSX???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Live blog
>>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>> http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More to come!
>>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78158 is a reply to message #78139] |
Wed, 10 January 2007 15:29 |
LaMont
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I checked it out. And if were a Mac user, I would pick it over the Treo Wx,
since I'm more of a Windows guy, the Treo 700 WX is it for me..
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Yes, the Treo and the BB are both vary cool products. No Kool-Aid here.
>It's kind of hard to grasp the capabilities of the iPhone with out watching
>the keynote video in it's entirety. Once again, check it out.
>
>http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>James,
>>Once again, you are "drinking the Apple Kool-aid" from Mr Jobs.
>>
>>The Iphone is cool, but not revolutionary. My Treo 700Wx (Windows) is just
>>a s cool and Superior AND is very comaptible with my PC and all MS applications
>>and other Windows apps.
>>
>>www.treo.com
>>
>>
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail, you might
>>>want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are superior.
>>>
>>>
>>>http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>>
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. It like having
>>>>a:
>>>>MP3player
>>>>Ms word,
>>>>Excel,
>>>>powerpoint,
>>>>Outlook 2003,
>>>>Media Player 10
>>>>Sprint TV
>>>>Camera
>>>>Recorder
>>>>Cool keyboard
>>>>Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>>
>>>>This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket.. :)
>>>>For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>>>
>>>>LaMont
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Some video highlights:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20&subj=news
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>More and better pictures:
>>>>>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is it a computer
>>>>>>running Mac OSX???
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Live blog
>>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>>http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>More to come!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78160 is a reply to message #78141] |
Wed, 10 January 2007 14:46 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
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Just found out it's about a half inch wider, only a quarter inch longer
and a half inch LESS deep than my LG flip phone (folded). So it may be
pocketable after all. Unlike the other PDA phones I've seen.
I'll give it a look when it ships.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Jamie K wrote:
>
> Liking a product from a particular company isn't necessarily a koolaid
> proposition. Sometimes engineers earn their fans.
>
> In this case, it looks like Apple's engineers have done something
> different from other options, with some unique interactive features and
> UI implementations that may well be useful to a lot of people.
>
> Just as Palm and Blackberry have engineered products that have earned
> the loyalty and praise of people who have found they need the features
> they provide.
>
> We can speculate before the iPhone ships but I'll withhold my final
> judgment until it's available to try.
>
> Having said that, my first impression of all three, the iPhone, the
> Treo, the Blackberry, is that they ALL seem too big and clumsy for phones.
>
> So far, all I want from my phone is that it be a phone, and that it be
> compact and pocketable. My little fliptop LG does the trick. That it's a
> speakerphone is a bonus.
>
> When I want a computer, I want something with a real screen and a
> keyboard I can really type on, that runs my goto productivity
> applications (video, audio, animation, and graphics apps, plus all my
> open source office, web and email apps). Which means for those times
> when I need a computer with me, I take my PowerBook.
>
> When I need a camera, I want a real camera, currently a Canon digital SLR.
>
> If I can get by with something small that I can type on, I use a Psion
> PDA (like a mini-laptop). Also works as a voice recorder. Cool little
> box but long discontinued.
>
> I'm resisting the all-in-one device. What if it fails? That's a lot of
> eggs in one basket. But I can see the appeal of the all-in-one if it
> could really cover what I need. None of them quite do that now. None of
> them.
>
> But for people who have different needs, each of the clunky phones has
> appealing features. And for those people, it's not a matter of koolaid,
> it's a matter of using what works for them. What covers their needs.
> Choice is good.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> LaMont wrote:
>> James,
>> Once again, you are "drinking the Apple Kool-aid" from Mr Jobs.
>>
>> The Iphone is cool, but not revolutionary. My Treo 700Wx (Windows) is
>> just
>> a s cool and Superior AND is very comaptible with my PC and all MS
>> applications
>> and other Windows apps.
>>
>> www.treo.com
>>
>>
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail, you
>>> might
>>> want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are superior.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>>
>>>
>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>> Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. It like
>>>> having
>>>> a:
>>>> MP3player
>>>> Ms word,
>>>> Excel, powerpoint, Outlook 2003, Media Player 10
>>>> Sprint TV
>>>> Camera
>>>> Recorder
>>>> Cool keyboard
>>>> Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>>
>>>> This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket.. :)
>>>> For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>>>
>>>> LaMont
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Some video highlights:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20&subj=news
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> More and better pictures:
>>>>> http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is it a
>>>>>> computer
>>>>>> running Mac OSX???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Live blog
>>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>> http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More to come!
>>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78161 is a reply to message #78141] |
Wed, 10 January 2007 15:34 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
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Senior Member |
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Jamie, it's Kool-aid to actually believe that Apple has AGAIN (Lol!!) Re-invented
the phone...
Man, that guy (Mr Jobs) does not quit with his BS.. Please Mr Jobs stop with
the propaganda.
Next week, if Apple comes out with a new version of Logic, they'll claim
to ahve Re-Invented the DAW..
Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>Liking a product from a particular company isn't necessarily a koolaid
>proposition. Sometimes engineers earn their fans.
>
>In this case, it looks like Apple's engineers have done something
>different from other options, with some unique interactive features and
>UI implementations that may well be useful to a lot of people.
>
>Just as Palm and Blackberry have engineered products that have earned
>the loyalty and praise of people who have found they need the features
>they provide.
>
>We can speculate before the iPhone ships but I'll withhold my final
>judgment until it's available to try.
>
>Having said that, my first impression of all three, the iPhone, the
>Treo, the Blackberry, is that they ALL seem too big and clumsy for phones.
>
>So far, all I want from my phone is that it be a phone, and that it be
>compact and pocketable. My little fliptop LG does the trick. That it's a
>speakerphone is a bonus.
>
>When I want a computer, I want something with a real screen and a
>keyboard I can really type on, that runs my goto productivity
>applications (video, audio, animation, and graphics apps, plus all my
>open source office, web and email apps). Which means for those times
>when I need a computer with me, I take my PowerBook.
>
>When I need a camera, I want a real camera, currently a Canon digital SLR.
>
>If I can get by with something small that I can type on, I use a Psion
>PDA (like a mini-laptop). Also works as a voice recorder. Cool little
>box but long discontinued.
>
>I'm resisting the all-in-one device. What if it fails? That's a lot of
>eggs in one basket. But I can see the appeal of the all-in-one if it
>could really cover what I need. None of them quite do that now. None of
>them.
>
>But for people who have different needs, each of the clunky phones has
>appealing features. And for those people, it's not a matter of koolaid,
>it's a matter of using what works for them. What covers their needs.
>Choice is good.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>LaMont wrote:
>> James,
>> Once again, you are "drinking the Apple Kool-aid" from Mr Jobs.
>>
>> The Iphone is cool, but not revolutionary. My Treo 700Wx (Windows) is
just
>> a s cool and Superior AND is very comaptible with my PC and all MS applications
>> and other Windows apps.
>>
>> www.treo.com
>>
>>
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail, you might
>>> want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are superior.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>>
>>>
>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>> Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. It like
having
>>>> a:
>>>> MP3player
>>>> Ms word,
>>>> Excel,
>>>> powerpoint,
>>>> Outlook 2003,
>>>> Media Player 10
>>>> Sprint TV
>>>> Camera
>>>> Recorder
>>>> Cool keyboard
>>>> Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>>
>>>> This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket.. :)
>>>> For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>>>
>>>> LaMont
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Some video highlights:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20&subj=news
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> More and better pictures:
>>>>> http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is it a computer
>>>>>> running Mac OSX???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Live blog
>>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>> http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More to come!
>>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78164 is a reply to message #78156] |
Wed, 10 January 2007 15:38 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Hey whatever. It wouldn't hurt to get a little education before you run your
big mouth. Then again what should I expect from a MS loving PC zealot that
knocks any thing Apple does. Don't worry, the thieving copy cats at MS will
copy it in the next 12 months, not to mention the others.
"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>I don't think so, got much better things to do with my time than listen
to a
>boring sales pitch.
>--
>Martin Harrington
>www.lendanear-sound.com
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:45a5184c$1@linux...
>>
>> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>>Superior to WHAT??,
>>>Anything that Apple has done to date??
>>>--
>>>Martin Harrington
>>>www.lendanear-sound.com
>>
>> Did you watch the iPhone video in it's entirety?
>>
>> By the way, the Apple iPhone, and Apple TV are both PC compatible
>> products!
>>
>> You might want to watch the whole keynote.
>>
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:45a468cb$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail, you
>>>> might
>>>> want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are superior.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. It like
>>>>>having
>>>>>a:
>>>>>MP3player
>>>>>Ms word,
>>>>>Excel,
>>>>>powerpoint,
>>>>>Outlook 2003,
>>>>>Media Player 10
>>>>>Sprint TV
>>>>>Camera
>>>>>Recorder
>>>>>Cool keyboard
>>>>>Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>>>
>>>>>This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket.. :)
>>>>>For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>>>>
>>>>>LaMont
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Some video highlights:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20&subj=news
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>More and better pictures:
>>>>>>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is it a
>>>>>>>computer
>>>>>>>running Mac OSX???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Live blog
>>>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>>>http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>More to come!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78165 is a reply to message #78161] |
Wed, 10 January 2007 15:47 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
|
Senior Member |
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Have you ever really seen a phone with a touch screen like that? Have you
seen a cell phone with a 3.5" LCD screen? Reinvented??? He must have gotten
that invented line from Al Gore; )
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>Jamie, it's Kool-aid to actually believe that Apple has AGAIN (Lol!!) Re-invented
>the phone...
>
>Man, that guy (Mr Jobs) does not quit with his BS.. Please Mr Jobs stop
with
>the propaganda.
>
>Next week, if Apple comes out with a new version of Logic, they'll claim
>to ahve Re-Invented the DAW..
>
>
>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>
>>Liking a product from a particular company isn't necessarily a koolaid
>>proposition. Sometimes engineers earn their fans.
>>
>>In this case, it looks like Apple's engineers have done something
>>different from other options, with some unique interactive features and
>
>>UI implementations that may well be useful to a lot of people.
>>
>>Just as Palm and Blackberry have engineered products that have earned
>>the loyalty and praise of people who have found they need the features
>>they provide.
>>
>>We can speculate before the iPhone ships but I'll withhold my final
>>judgment until it's available to try.
>>
>>Having said that, my first impression of all three, the iPhone, the
>>Treo, the Blackberry, is that they ALL seem too big and clumsy for phones.
>>
>>So far, all I want from my phone is that it be a phone, and that it be
>>compact and pocketable. My little fliptop LG does the trick. That it's
a
>
>>speakerphone is a bonus.
>>
>>When I want a computer, I want something with a real screen and a
>>keyboard I can really type on, that runs my goto productivity
>>applications (video, audio, animation, and graphics apps, plus all my
>>open source office, web and email apps). Which means for those times
>>when I need a computer with me, I take my PowerBook.
>>
>>When I need a camera, I want a real camera, currently a Canon digital SLR.
>>
>>If I can get by with something small that I can type on, I use a Psion
>>PDA (like a mini-laptop). Also works as a voice recorder. Cool little
>>box but long discontinued.
>>
>>I'm resisting the all-in-one device. What if it fails? That's a lot of
>>eggs in one basket. But I can see the appeal of the all-in-one if it
>>could really cover what I need. None of them quite do that now. None of
>
>>them.
>>
>>But for people who have different needs, each of the clunky phones has
>>appealing features. And for those people, it's not a matter of koolaid,
>
>>it's a matter of using what works for them. What covers their needs.
>>Choice is good.
>>
>>Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>LaMont wrote:
>>> James,
>>> Once again, you are "drinking the Apple Kool-aid" from Mr Jobs.
>>>
>>> The Iphone is cool, but not revolutionary. My Treo 700Wx (Windows) is
>just
>>> a s cool and Superior AND is very comaptible with my PC and all MS applications
>>> and other Windows apps.
>>>
>>> www.treo.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail, you
might
>>>> want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are superior.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>> Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. It like
>having
>>>>> a:
>>>>> MP3player
>>>>> Ms word,
>>>>> Excel,
>>>>> powerpoint,
>>>>> Outlook 2003,
>>>>> Media Player 10
>>>>> Sprint TV
>>>>> Camera
>>>>> Recorder
>>>>> Cool keyboard
>>>>> Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>>>
>>>>> This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket.. :)
>>>>> For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>>>>
>>>>> LaMont
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Some video highlights:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20&subj=news
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More and better pictures:
>>>>>> http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is it a
computer
>>>>>>> running Mac OSX???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Live blog
>>>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>>> http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> More to come!
>>>
>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78167 is a reply to message #78161] |
Wed, 10 January 2007 15:11 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
|
Senior Member |
|
|
LaMont wrote:
> Jamie, it's Kool-aid to actually believe that Apple has AGAIN (Lol!!) Re-invented
> the phone...
Well, it's a phone/media player/PDA/camera (what did I leave out?). The
"reinvention" really has to do with the finger-touch-screen interface,
right? So we'll see if it lives up to the hype when it ships.
> Man, that guy (Mr Jobs) does not quit with his BS.. Please Mr Jobs stop with
> the propaganda.
Heh. It's a good thing you're immune to hyped advertising because we're
surrounded by it from all directions.
> Next week, if Apple comes out with a new version of Logic, they'll claim
> to ahve Re-Invented the DAW..
They can claim whatever they want, as long as the next version is at
least as solid as the current version, further streamlined in the UI,
and no less capable. :^)
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>> Liking a product from a particular company isn't necessarily a koolaid
>> proposition. Sometimes engineers earn their fans.
>>
>> In this case, it looks like Apple's engineers have done something
>> different from other options, with some unique interactive features and
>
>> UI implementations that may well be useful to a lot of people.
>>
>> Just as Palm and Blackberry have engineered products that have earned
>> the loyalty and praise of people who have found they need the features
>> they provide.
>>
>> We can speculate before the iPhone ships but I'll withhold my final
>> judgment until it's available to try.
>>
>> Having said that, my first impression of all three, the iPhone, the
>> Treo, the Blackberry, is that they ALL seem too big and clumsy for phones.
>>
>> So far, all I want from my phone is that it be a phone, and that it be
>> compact and pocketable. My little fliptop LG does the trick. That it's a
>
>> speakerphone is a bonus.
>>
>> When I want a computer, I want something with a real screen and a
>> keyboard I can really type on, that runs my goto productivity
>> applications (video, audio, animation, and graphics apps, plus all my
>> open source office, web and email apps). Which means for those times
>> when I need a computer with me, I take my PowerBook.
>>
>> When I need a camera, I want a real camera, currently a Canon digital SLR.
>>
>> If I can get by with something small that I can type on, I use a Psion
>> PDA (like a mini-laptop). Also works as a voice recorder. Cool little
>> box but long discontinued.
>>
>> I'm resisting the all-in-one device. What if it fails? That's a lot of
>> eggs in one basket. But I can see the appeal of the all-in-one if it
>> could really cover what I need. None of them quite do that now. None of
>
>> them.
>>
>> But for people who have different needs, each of the clunky phones has
>> appealing features. And for those people, it's not a matter of koolaid,
>
>> it's a matter of using what works for them. What covers their needs.
>> Choice is good.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> LaMont wrote:
>>> James,
>>> Once again, you are "drinking the Apple Kool-aid" from Mr Jobs.
>>>
>>> The Iphone is cool, but not revolutionary. My Treo 700Wx (Windows) is
> just
>>> a s cool and Superior AND is very comaptible with my PC and all MS applications
>>> and other Windows apps.
>>>
>>> www.treo.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail, you might
>>>> want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are superior.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>> Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. It like
> having
>>>>> a:
>>>>> MP3player
>>>>> Ms word,
>>>>> Excel,
>>>>> powerpoint,
>>>>> Outlook 2003,
>>>>> Media Player 10
>>>>> Sprint TV
>>>>> Camera
>>>>> Recorder
>>>>> Cool keyboard
>>>>> Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>>>
>>>>> This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket.. :)
>>>>> For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>>>>
>>>>> LaMont
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Some video highlights:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20&subj=news
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More and better pictures:
>>>>>> http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is it a computer
>>>>>>> running Mac OSX???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Live blog
>>>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>>> http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> More to come!
>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78170 is a reply to message #78164] |
Wed, 10 January 2007 15:13 |
Martin Harrington
Messages: 560
Registered: September 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Hmmm they're interesting comments seeing as I've never got into a slanging
match with anyone on this NG,(or anywhere for that matter), over the virtues
of Mac/PC ..as for the "MS loving PC zealot that knocks any thing Apple
does" comment, well....you don't know me at all, and that's probably a good
thing, because if you did, you'd know how STUPID that comment was, much like
many of the comments you make regarding the (perceived, in your mind),
PC/Mac "war", which is only perpetuated by zealots like you.
GROW UP..
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45a56ac8$1@linux...
>
> Hey whatever. It wouldn't hurt to get a little education before you run
> your
> big mouth. Then again what should I expect from a MS loving PC zealot
> that
> knocks any thing Apple does. Don't worry, the thieving copy cats at MS
> will
> copy it in the next 12 months, not to mention the others.
>
> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>I don't think so, got much better things to do with my time than listen
> to a
>>boring sales pitch.
>>--
>>Martin Harrington
>>www.lendanear-sound.com
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:45a5184c$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>>>Superior to WHAT??,
>>>>Anything that Apple has done to date??
>>>>--
>>>>Martin Harrington
>>>>www.lendanear-sound.com
>>>
>>> Did you watch the iPhone video in it's entirety?
>>>
>>> By the way, the Apple iPhone, and Apple TV are both PC compatible
>>> products!
>>>
>>> You might want to watch the whole keynote.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:45a468cb$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail, you
>
>>>>> might
>>>>> want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are
>>>>> superior.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. It like
>
>>>>>>having
>>>>>>a:
>>>>>>MP3player
>>>>>>Ms word,
>>>>>>Excel,
>>>>>>powerpoint,
>>>>>>Outlook 2003,
>>>>>>Media Player 10
>>>>>>Sprint TV
>>>>>>Camera
>>>>>>Recorder
>>>>>>Cool keyboard
>>>>>>Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket.. :)
>>>>>>For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>LaMont
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Some video highlights:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20&subj=news
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>More and better pictures:
>>>>>>>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is it a
>>>>>>>>computer
>>>>>>>>running Mac OSX???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Live blog
>>>>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>>>>http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>More to come!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78178 is a reply to message #78167] |
Wed, 10 January 2007 20:29 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
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Senior Member |
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The Treo 700wx does all those things: With a touch screen to boot.
And while the Iphone syncs perfectly with itunes, the Treo 700 wx syncs with
Win Media player (with Play for sure technology) which is wayyy bettter than
itunes..
Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>LaMont wrote:
>> Jamie, it's Kool-aid to actually believe that Apple has AGAIN (Lol!!)
Re-invented
>> the phone...
>
>Well, it's a phone/media player/PDA/camera (what did I leave out?). The
>"reinvention" really has to do with the finger-touch-screen interface,
>right? So we'll see if it lives up to the hype when it ships.
>
>
>> Man, that guy (Mr Jobs) does not quit with his BS.. Please Mr Jobs stop
with
>> the propaganda.
>
>Heh. It's a good thing you're immune to hyped advertising because we're
>surrounded by it from all directions.
>
>
>> Next week, if Apple comes out with a new version of Logic, they'll claim
>> to ahve Re-Invented the DAW..
>
>They can claim whatever they want, as long as the next version is at
>least as solid as the current version, further streamlined in the UI,
>and no less capable. :^)
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>>
>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>> Liking a product from a particular company isn't necessarily a koolaid
>>> proposition. Sometimes engineers earn their fans.
>>>
>>> In this case, it looks like Apple's engineers have done something
>>> different from other options, with some unique interactive features and
>>
>>> UI implementations that may well be useful to a lot of people.
>>>
>>> Just as Palm and Blackberry have engineered products that have earned
>>> the loyalty and praise of people who have found they need the features
>>> they provide.
>>>
>>> We can speculate before the iPhone ships but I'll withhold my final
>>> judgment until it's available to try.
>>>
>>> Having said that, my first impression of all three, the iPhone, the
>>> Treo, the Blackberry, is that they ALL seem too big and clumsy for phones.
>>>
>>> So far, all I want from my phone is that it be a phone, and that it be
>>> compact and pocketable. My little fliptop LG does the trick. That it's
a
>>
>>> speakerphone is a bonus.
>>>
>>> When I want a computer, I want something with a real screen and a
>>> keyboard I can really type on, that runs my goto productivity
>>> applications (video, audio, animation, and graphics apps, plus all my
>>> open source office, web and email apps). Which means for those times
>>> when I need a computer with me, I take my PowerBook.
>>>
>>> When I need a camera, I want a real camera, currently a Canon digital
SLR.
>>>
>>> If I can get by with something small that I can type on, I use a Psion
>>> PDA (like a mini-laptop). Also works as a voice recorder. Cool little
>>> box but long discontinued.
>>>
>>> I'm resisting the all-in-one device. What if it fails? That's a lot of
>>> eggs in one basket. But I can see the appeal of the all-in-one if it
>>> could really cover what I need. None of them quite do that now. None
of
>>
>>> them.
>>>
>>> But for people who have different needs, each of the clunky phones has
>>> appealing features. And for those people, it's not a matter of koolaid,
>>
>>> it's a matter of using what works for them. What covers their needs.
>>> Choice is good.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> LaMont wrote:
>>>> James,
>>>> Once again, you are "drinking the Apple Kool-aid" from Mr Jobs.
>>>>
>>>> The Iphone is cool, but not revolutionary. My Treo 700Wx (Windows) is
>> just
>>>> a s cool and Superior AND is very comaptible with my PC and all MS applications
>>>> and other Windows apps.
>>>>
>>>> www.treo.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail, you
might
>>>>> want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are superior.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. It like
>> having
>>>>>> a:
>>>>>> MP3player
>>>>>> Ms word,
>>>>>> Excel,
>>>>>> powerpoint,
>>>>>> Outlook 2003,
>>>>>> Media Player 10
>>>>>> Sprint TV
>>>>>> Camera
>>>>>> Recorder
>>>>>> Cool keyboard
>>>>>> Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket.. :)
>>>>>> For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LaMont
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Some video highlights:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20&subj=news
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> More and better pictures:
>>>>>>> http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is it a
computer
>>>>>>>> running Mac OSX???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Live blog
>>>>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>>>> http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> More to come!
>>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78181 is a reply to message #78178] |
Wed, 10 January 2007 21:02 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
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Senior Member |
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|
LaMont wrote:
> The Treo 700wx does all those things: With a touch screen to boot.
It's stylus driven and a different GUI design. Works just fine, though.
It will be interesting to see if the Apple approach is any faster to
interact with, once it ships.
> And while the Iphone syncs perfectly with itunes, the Treo 700 wx syncs with
> Win Media player (with Play for sure technology) which is wayyy bettter than
> itunes..
Wayyy? How so? BTW, "plays for sure" is just a hypey koolaid name, how
come that doesn't bother you? ;^)
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>> LaMont wrote:
>>> Jamie, it's Kool-aid to actually believe that Apple has AGAIN (Lol!!)
> Re-invented
>>> the phone...
>> Well, it's a phone/media player/PDA/camera (what did I leave out?). The
>
>> "reinvention" really has to do with the finger-touch-screen interface,
>> right? So we'll see if it lives up to the hype when it ships.
>>
>>
>>> Man, that guy (Mr Jobs) does not quit with his BS.. Please Mr Jobs stop
> with
>>> the propaganda.
>> Heh. It's a good thing you're immune to hyped advertising because we're
>
>> surrounded by it from all directions.
>>
>>
>>> Next week, if Apple comes out with a new version of Logic, they'll claim
>>> to ahve Re-Invented the DAW..
>> They can claim whatever they want, as long as the next version is at
>> least as solid as the current version, further streamlined in the UI,
>> and no less capable. :^)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>> Liking a product from a particular company isn't necessarily a koolaid
>
>>>> proposition. Sometimes engineers earn their fans.
>>>>
>>>> In this case, it looks like Apple's engineers have done something
>>>> different from other options, with some unique interactive features and
>>>> UI implementations that may well be useful to a lot of people.
>>>>
>>>> Just as Palm and Blackberry have engineered products that have earned
>
>>>> the loyalty and praise of people who have found they need the features
>
>>>> they provide.
>>>>
>>>> We can speculate before the iPhone ships but I'll withhold my final
>>>> judgment until it's available to try.
>>>>
>>>> Having said that, my first impression of all three, the iPhone, the
>>>> Treo, the Blackberry, is that they ALL seem too big and clumsy for phones.
>>>>
>>>> So far, all I want from my phone is that it be a phone, and that it be
>
>>>> compact and pocketable. My little fliptop LG does the trick. That it's
> a
>>>> speakerphone is a bonus.
>>>>
>>>> When I want a computer, I want something with a real screen and a
>>>> keyboard I can really type on, that runs my goto productivity
>>>> applications (video, audio, animation, and graphics apps, plus all my
>
>>>> open source office, web and email apps). Which means for those times
>
>>>> when I need a computer with me, I take my PowerBook.
>>>>
>>>> When I need a camera, I want a real camera, currently a Canon digital
> SLR.
>>>> If I can get by with something small that I can type on, I use a Psion
>
>>>> PDA (like a mini-laptop). Also works as a voice recorder. Cool little
>
>>>> box but long discontinued.
>>>>
>>>> I'm resisting the all-in-one device. What if it fails? That's a lot of
>
>>>> eggs in one basket. But I can see the appeal of the all-in-one if it
>
>>>> could really cover what I need. None of them quite do that now. None
> of
>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>> But for people who have different needs, each of the clunky phones has
>
>>>> appealing features. And for those people, it's not a matter of koolaid,
>>>> it's a matter of using what works for them. What covers their needs.
>
>>>> Choice is good.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> LaMont wrote:
>>>>> James,
>>>>> Once again, you are "drinking the Apple Kool-aid" from Mr Jobs.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Iphone is cool, but not revolutionary. My Treo 700Wx (Windows) is
>>> just
>>>>> a s cool and Superior AND is very comaptible with my PC and all MS applications
>>>>> and other Windows apps.
>>>>>
>>>>> www.treo.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail, you
> might
>>>>>> want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are superior.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. It like
>>> having
>>>>>>> a:
>>>>>>> MP3player
>>>>>>> Ms word,
>>>>>>> Excel,
>>>>>>> powerpoint,
>>>>>>> Outlook 2003,
>>>>>>> Media Player 10
>>>>>>> Sprint TV
>>>>>>> Camera
>>>>>>> Recorder
>>>>>>> Cool keyboard
>>>>>>> Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket.. :)
>>>>>>> For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LaMont
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Some video highlights:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20&subj=news
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> More and better pictures:
>>>>>>>> http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is it a
> computer
>>>>>>>>> running Mac OSX???
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Live blog
>>>>>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>>>>> http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> More to come!
>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78182 is a reply to message #78181] |
Wed, 10 January 2007 22:00 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
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Senior Member |
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Actually, Play for sure is a joint project from both Microsoft & Creative
audio.
Unlike itunes, media plyer does not discriminate on which manufacuter MP3
player you have..
But, the Play for sure technology really works and works well with all kinds
of Mp3 players..
Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>LaMont wrote:
>> The Treo 700wx does all those things: With a touch screen to boot.
>
>It's stylus driven and a different GUI design. Works just fine, though.
>It will be interesting to see if the Apple approach is any faster to
>interact with, once it ships.
>
>
>> And while the Iphone syncs perfectly with itunes, the Treo 700 wx syncs
with
>> Win Media player (with Play for sure technology) which is wayyy bettter
than
>> itunes..
>
>Wayyy? How so? BTW, "plays for sure" is just a hypey koolaid name, how
>come that doesn't bother you? ;^)
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>>
>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>> LaMont wrote:
>>>> Jamie, it's Kool-aid to actually believe that Apple has AGAIN (Lol!!)
>> Re-invented
>>>> the phone...
>>> Well, it's a phone/media player/PDA/camera (what did I leave out?). The
>>
>>> "reinvention" really has to do with the finger-touch-screen interface,
>>> right? So we'll see if it lives up to the hype when it ships.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Man, that guy (Mr Jobs) does not quit with his BS.. Please Mr Jobs stop
>> with
>>>> the propaganda.
>>> Heh. It's a good thing you're immune to hyped advertising because we're
>>
>>> surrounded by it from all directions.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Next week, if Apple comes out with a new version of Logic, they'll claim
>>>> to ahve Re-Invented the DAW..
>>> They can claim whatever they want, as long as the next version is at
>>> least as solid as the current version, further streamlined in the UI,
>>> and no less capable. :^)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>> Liking a product from a particular company isn't necessarily a koolaid
>>
>>>>> proposition. Sometimes engineers earn their fans.
>>>>>
>>>>> In this case, it looks like Apple's engineers have done something
>>>>> different from other options, with some unique interactive features
and
>>>>> UI implementations that may well be useful to a lot of people.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just as Palm and Blackberry have engineered products that have earned
>>
>>>>> the loyalty and praise of people who have found they need the features
>>
>>>>> they provide.
>>>>>
>>>>> We can speculate before the iPhone ships but I'll withhold my final
>>>>> judgment until it's available to try.
>>>>>
>>>>> Having said that, my first impression of all three, the iPhone, the
>>>>> Treo, the Blackberry, is that they ALL seem too big and clumsy for
phones.
>>>>>
>>>>> So far, all I want from my phone is that it be a phone, and that it
be
>>
>>>>> compact and pocketable. My little fliptop LG does the trick. That it's
>> a
>>>>> speakerphone is a bonus.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I want a computer, I want something with a real screen and a
>>>>> keyboard I can really type on, that runs my goto productivity
>>>>> applications (video, audio, animation, and graphics apps, plus all
my
>>
>>>>> open source office, web and email apps). Which means for those times
>>
>>>>> when I need a computer with me, I take my PowerBook.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I need a camera, I want a real camera, currently a Canon digital
>> SLR.
>>>>> If I can get by with something small that I can type on, I use a Psion
>>
>>>>> PDA (like a mini-laptop). Also works as a voice recorder. Cool little
>>
>>>>> box but long discontinued.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm resisting the all-in-one device. What if it fails? That's a lot
of
>>
>>>>> eggs in one basket. But I can see the appeal of the all-in-one if it
>>
>>>>> could really cover what I need. None of them quite do that now. None
>> of
>>>>> them.
>>>>>
>>>>> But for people who have different needs, each of the clunky phones
has
>>
>>>>> appealing features. And for those people, it's not a matter of koolaid,
>>>>> it's a matter of using what works for them. What covers their needs.
>>
>>>>> Choice is good.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> LaMont wrote:
>>>>>> James,
>>>>>> Once again, you are "drinking the Apple Kool-aid" from Mr Jobs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Iphone is cool, but not revolutionary. My Treo 700Wx (Windows)
is
>>>> just
>>>>>> a s cool and Superior AND is very comaptible with my PC and all MS
applications
>>>>>> and other Windows apps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.treo.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail, you
>> might
>>>>>>> want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are superior.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. It like
>>>> having
>>>>>>>> a:
>>>>>>>> MP3player
>>>>>>>> Ms word,
>>>>>>>> Excel,
>>>>>>>> powerpoint,
>>>>>>>> Outlook 2003,
>>>>>>>> Media Player 10
>>>>>>>> Sprint TV
>>>>>>>> Camera
>>>>>>>> Recorder
>>>>>>>> Cool keyboard
>>>>>>>> Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket.. :)
>>>>>>>> For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LaMont
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Some video highlights:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20&subj=news
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> More and better pictures:
>>>>>>>>> http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is it
a
>> computer
>>>>>>>>>> running Mac OSX???
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Live blog
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> More to come!
>>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78183 is a reply to message #78178] |
Wed, 10 January 2007 22:26 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
|
Senior Member |
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"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>The Treo 700wx does all those things: With a touch screen to boot.
>
>And while the Iphone syncs perfectly with itunes, the Treo 700 wx syncs
with
>Win Media player (with Play for sure technology) which is wayyy bettter
than
>itunes..
>
I'm not knocking the Treo or the BB. I think for a windows user they are
perfect. Those products have had time to mature, and quite a bit of third
party development. The iPhone looks pretty slick out of the gate. Only
time will tell if the iPhone will be a success. I have to say for the average
guy the price is steep IMO, but not for someone with all the needs. Again,
it should be noted, the iPhone is PC compatible.
Well I'm not sure what you mean about the Plays for sure thing being better
than iTunes, but if your in to MS DRM, cool!
One thing I'll point out about Windows Media Player, is that they have copied
the itunes interface, Aqua theme/look, even the Itunes logo with the aqua
musical note and the CD. It's all hard to not notice MS's blatant rip off
of Apple design and innovation, just look at Vista. They been at it for
years.
>
>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>LaMont wrote:
>>> Jamie, it's Kool-aid to actually believe that Apple has AGAIN (Lol!!)
>Re-invented
>>> the phone...
>>
>>Well, it's a phone/media player/PDA/camera (what did I leave out?). The
>
>>"reinvention" really has to do with the finger-touch-screen interface,
>>right? So we'll see if it lives up to the hype when it ships.
>>
>>
>>> Man, that guy (Mr Jobs) does not quit with his BS.. Please Mr Jobs stop
>with
>>> the propaganda.
>>
>>Heh. It's a good thing you're immune to hyped advertising because we're
>
>>surrounded by it from all directions.
>>
>>
>>> Next week, if Apple comes out with a new version of Logic, they'll claim
>>> to ahve Re-Invented the DAW..
>>
>>They can claim whatever they want, as long as the next version is at
>>least as solid as the current version, further streamlined in the UI,
>>and no less capable. :^)
>>
>>Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>> Liking a product from a particular company isn't necessarily a koolaid
>
>>>> proposition. Sometimes engineers earn their fans.
>>>>
>>>> In this case, it looks like Apple's engineers have done something
>>>> different from other options, with some unique interactive features
and
>>>
>>>> UI implementations that may well be useful to a lot of people.
>>>>
>>>> Just as Palm and Blackberry have engineered products that have earned
>
>>>> the loyalty and praise of people who have found they need the features
>
>>>> they provide.
>>>>
>>>> We can speculate before the iPhone ships but I'll withhold my final
>>>> judgment until it's available to try.
>>>>
>>>> Having said that, my first impression of all three, the iPhone, the
>>>> Treo, the Blackberry, is that they ALL seem too big and clumsy for phones.
>>>>
>>>> So far, all I want from my phone is that it be a phone, and that it
be
>
>>>> compact and pocketable. My little fliptop LG does the trick. That it's
>a
>>>
>>>> speakerphone is a bonus.
>>>>
>>>> When I want a computer, I want something with a real screen and a
>>>> keyboard I can really type on, that runs my goto productivity
>>>> applications (video, audio, animation, and graphics apps, plus all my
>
>>>> open source office, web and email apps). Which means for those times
>
>>>> when I need a computer with me, I take my PowerBook.
>>>>
>>>> When I need a camera, I want a real camera, currently a Canon digital
>SLR.
>>>>
>>>> If I can get by with something small that I can type on, I use a Psion
>
>>>> PDA (like a mini-laptop). Also works as a voice recorder. Cool little
>
>>>> box but long discontinued.
>>>>
>>>> I'm resisting the all-in-one device. What if it fails? That's a lot
of
>
>>>> eggs in one basket. But I can see the appeal of the all-in-one if it
>
>>>> could really cover what I need. None of them quite do that now. None
>of
>>>
>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>> But for people who have different needs, each of the clunky phones has
>
>>>> appealing features. And for those people, it's not a matter of koolaid,
>>>
>>>> it's a matter of using what works for them. What covers their needs.
>
>>>> Choice is good.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> LaMont wrote:
>>>>> James,
>>>>> Once again, you are "drinking the Apple Kool-aid" from Mr Jobs.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Iphone is cool, but not revolutionary. My Treo 700Wx (Windows)
is
>>> just
>>>>> a s cool and Superior AND is very comaptible with my PC and all MS
applications
>>>>> and other Windows apps.
>>>>>
>>>>> www.treo.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail, you
>might
>>>>>> want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are superior.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. It like
>>> having
>>>>>>> a:
>>>>>>> MP3player
>>>>>>> Ms word,
>>>>>>> Excel,
>>>>>>> powerpoint,
>>>>>>> Outlook 2003,
>>>>>>> Media Player 10
>>>>>>> Sprint TV
>>>>>>> Camera
>>>>>>> Recorder
>>>>>>> Cool keyboard
>>>>>>> Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket.. :)
>>>>>>> For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LaMont
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Some video highlights:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20&subj=news
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> More and better pictures:
>>>>>>>> http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is it
a
>computer
>>>>>>>>> running Mac OSX???
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Live blog
>>>>>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>>>>> http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> More to come!
>>>
>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78184 is a reply to message #78182] |
Wed, 10 January 2007 22:17 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
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LaMOnt wrote:
> Actually, Play for sure is a joint project from both Microsoft & Creative
> audio.
>
> Unlike itunes, media plyer does not discriminate on which manufacuter MP3
> player you have..
>
> But, the Play for sure technology really works and works well with all kinds
> of Mp3 players..
Sounds like more hype, just from a source you like. And it's fine if you
like them.
"Technology" seems an exaggerated term in this case. Copying mp3s files
to a player is not a big deal.
Is that how WMP is wayyy better? :^)
I could copy mp3s to any player from a Mac. It's not locked into iTunes
playlists.
All of these companies are trying to create an ecosystem to pull you in.
Apple has been the most successful at it by making iTunes seamless with
their iPods, but that doesn't mean the others aren't trying. More power
to everybody, the more competition the better. Maybe someday someone
will make a portable player that is compelling enough for me to get one...
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>> LaMont wrote:
>>> The Treo 700wx does all those things: With a touch screen to boot.
>> It's stylus driven and a different GUI design. Works just fine, though.
>
>> It will be interesting to see if the Apple approach is any faster to
>> interact with, once it ships.
>>
>>
>>> And while the Iphone syncs perfectly with itunes, the Treo 700 wx syncs
> with
>>> Win Media player (with Play for sure technology) which is wayyy bettter
> than
>>> itunes..
>> Wayyy? How so? BTW, "plays for sure" is just a hypey koolaid name, how
>> come that doesn't bother you? ;^)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>> LaMont wrote:
>>>>> Jamie, it's Kool-aid to actually believe that Apple has AGAIN (Lol!!)
>>> Re-invented
>>>>> the phone...
>>>> Well, it's a phone/media player/PDA/camera (what did I leave out?). The
>>>> "reinvention" really has to do with the finger-touch-screen interface,
>
>>>> right? So we'll see if it lives up to the hype when it ships.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Man, that guy (Mr Jobs) does not quit with his BS.. Please Mr Jobs stop
>>> with
>>>>> the propaganda.
>>>> Heh. It's a good thing you're immune to hyped advertising because we're
>>>> surrounded by it from all directions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Next week, if Apple comes out with a new version of Logic, they'll claim
>>>>> to ahve Re-Invented the DAW..
>>>> They can claim whatever they want, as long as the next version is at
>
>>>> least as solid as the current version, further streamlined in the UI,
>
>>>> and no less capable. :^)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Liking a product from a particular company isn't necessarily a koolaid
>>>>>> proposition. Sometimes engineers earn their fans.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In this case, it looks like Apple's engineers have done something
>>>>>> different from other options, with some unique interactive features
> and
>>>>>> UI implementations that may well be useful to a lot of people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just as Palm and Blackberry have engineered products that have earned
>>>>>> the loyalty and praise of people who have found they need the features
>>>>>> they provide.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We can speculate before the iPhone ships but I'll withhold my final
>
>>>>>> judgment until it's available to try.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Having said that, my first impression of all three, the iPhone, the
>
>>>>>> Treo, the Blackberry, is that they ALL seem too big and clumsy for
> phones.
>>>>>> So far, all I want from my phone is that it be a phone, and that it
> be
>>>>>> compact and pocketable. My little fliptop LG does the trick. That it's
>>> a
>>>>>> speakerphone is a bonus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I want a computer, I want something with a real screen and a
>>>>>> keyboard I can really type on, that runs my goto productivity
>>>>>> applications (video, audio, animation, and graphics apps, plus all
> my
>>>>>> open source office, web and email apps). Which means for those times
>>>>>> when I need a computer with me, I take my PowerBook.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I need a camera, I want a real camera, currently a Canon digital
>>> SLR.
>>>>>> If I can get by with something small that I can type on, I use a Psion
>>>>>> PDA (like a mini-laptop). Also works as a voice recorder. Cool little
>>>>>> box but long discontinued.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm resisting the all-in-one device. What if it fails? That's a lot
> of
>>>>>> eggs in one basket. But I can see the appeal of the all-in-one if it
>>>>>> could really cover what I need. None of them quite do that now. None
>>> of
>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But for people who have different needs, each of the clunky phones
> has
>>>>>> appealing features. And for those people, it's not a matter of koolaid,
>>>>>> it's a matter of using what works for them. What covers their needs.
>>>>>> Choice is good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LaMont wrote:
>>>>>>> James,
>>>>>>> Once again, you are "drinking the Apple Kool-aid" from Mr Jobs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Iphone is cool, but not revolutionary. My Treo 700Wx (Windows)
> is
>>>>> just
>>>>>>> a s cool and Superior AND is very comaptible with my PC and all MS
> applications
>>>>>>> and other Windows apps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> www.treo.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail, you
>>> might
>>>>>>>> want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are superior.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. It like
>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>> a:
>>>>>>>>> MP3player
>>>>>>>>> Ms word,
>>>>>>>>> Excel,
>>>>>>>>> powerpoint,
>>>>>>>>> Outlook 2003,
>>>>>>>>> Media Player 10
>>>>>>>>> Sprint TV
>>>>>>>>> Camera
>>>>>>>>> Recorder
>>>>>>>>> Cool keyboard
>>>>>>>>> Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket.. :)
>>>>>>>>> For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LaMont
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Some video highlights:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20&subj=news
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> More and better pictures:
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is it
> a
>>> computer
>>>>>>>>>>> running Mac OSX???
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Live blog
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> More to come!
>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78185 is a reply to message #78183] |
Thu, 11 January 2007 00:43 |
Martin Harrington
Messages: 560
Registered: September 2005
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Senior Member |
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Hmmm, A "Zealot" calling the kettle black.
I hope you re-read some of your recent posts in a week or two and discover
what we all see.
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45a5ca84$1@linux...
>
> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>The Treo 700wx does all those things: With a touch screen to boot.
>>
>>And while the Iphone syncs perfectly with itunes, the Treo 700 wx syncs
> with
>>Win Media player (with Play for sure technology) which is wayyy bettter
> than
>>itunes..
>>
>
> I'm not knocking the Treo or the BB. I think for a windows user they are
> perfect. Those products have had time to mature, and quite a bit of third
> party development. The iPhone looks pretty slick out of the gate. Only
> time will tell if the iPhone will be a success. I have to say for the
> average
> guy the price is steep IMO, but not for someone with all the needs.
> Again,
> it should be noted, the iPhone is PC compatible.
>
> Well I'm not sure what you mean about the Plays for sure thing being
> better
> than iTunes, but if your in to MS DRM, cool!
>
> One thing I'll point out about Windows Media Player, is that they have
> copied
> the itunes interface, Aqua theme/look, even the Itunes logo with the aqua
> musical note and the CD. It's all hard to not notice MS's blatant rip off
> of Apple design and innovation, just look at Vista. They been at it for
> years.
>
>>
>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>LaMont wrote:
>>>> Jamie, it's Kool-aid to actually believe that Apple has AGAIN (Lol!!)
>>Re-invented
>>>> the phone...
>>>
>>>Well, it's a phone/media player/PDA/camera (what did I leave out?). The
>>
>>>"reinvention" really has to do with the finger-touch-screen interface,
>
>>>right? So we'll see if it lives up to the hype when it ships.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Man, that guy (Mr Jobs) does not quit with his BS.. Please Mr Jobs stop
>>with
>>>> the propaganda.
>>>
>>>Heh. It's a good thing you're immune to hyped advertising because we're
>>
>>>surrounded by it from all directions.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Next week, if Apple comes out with a new version of Logic, they'll
>>>> claim
>>>> to ahve Re-Invented the DAW..
>>>
>>>They can claim whatever they want, as long as the next version is at
>>>least as solid as the current version, further streamlined in the UI,
>>>and no less capable. :^)
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>> Liking a product from a particular company isn't necessarily a koolaid
>>
>>>>> proposition. Sometimes engineers earn their fans.
>>>>>
>>>>> In this case, it looks like Apple's engineers have done something
>>>>> different from other options, with some unique interactive features
> and
>>>>
>>>>> UI implementations that may well be useful to a lot of people.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just as Palm and Blackberry have engineered products that have earned
>>
>>>>> the loyalty and praise of people who have found they need the features
>>
>>>>> they provide.
>>>>>
>>>>> We can speculate before the iPhone ships but I'll withhold my final
>
>>>>> judgment until it's available to try.
>>>>>
>>>>> Having said that, my first impression of all three, the iPhone, the
>
>>>>> Treo, the Blackberry, is that they ALL seem too big and clumsy for
>>>>> phones.
>>>>>
>>>>> So far, all I want from my phone is that it be a phone, and that it
> be
>>
>>>>> compact and pocketable. My little fliptop LG does the trick. That it's
>>a
>>>>
>>>>> speakerphone is a bonus.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I want a computer, I want something with a real screen and a
>>>>> keyboard I can really type on, that runs my goto productivity
>>>>> applications (video, audio, animation, and graphics apps, plus all my
>>
>>>>> open source office, web and email apps). Which means for those times
>>
>>>>> when I need a computer with me, I take my PowerBook.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I need a camera, I want a real camera, currently a Canon digital
>>SLR.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I can get by with something small that I can type on, I use a Psion
>>
>>>>> PDA (like a mini-laptop). Also works as a voice recorder. Cool little
>>
>>>>> box but long discontinued.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm resisting the all-in-one device. What if it fails? That's a lot
> of
>>
>>>>> eggs in one basket. But I can see the appeal of the all-in-one if it
>>
>>>>> could really cover what I need. None of them quite do that now. None
>>of
>>>>
>>>>> them.
>>>>>
>>>>> But for people who have different needs, each of the clunky phones has
>>
>>>>> appealing features. And for those people, it's not a matter of
>>>>> koolaid,
>>>>
>>>>> it's a matter of using what works for them. What covers their needs.
>>
>>>>> Choice is good.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> LaMont wrote:
>>>>>> James,
>>>>>> Once again, you are "drinking the Apple Kool-aid" from Mr Jobs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Iphone is cool, but not revolutionary. My Treo 700Wx (Windows)
> is
>>>> just
>>>>>> a s cool and Superior AND is very comaptible with my PC and all MS
> applications
>>>>>> and other Windows apps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.treo.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail, you
>>might
>>>>>>> want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are
>>>>>>> superior.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. It like
>>>> having
>>>>>>>> a:
>>>>>>>> MP3player
>>>>>>>> Ms word,
>>>>>>>> Excel,
>>>>>>>> powerpoint,
>>>>>>>> Outlook 2003,
>>>>>>>> Media Player 10
>>>>>>>> Sprint TV
>>>>>>>> Camera
>>>>>>>> Recorder
>>>>>>>> Cool keyboard
>>>>>>>> Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket.. :)
>>>>>>>> For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LaMont
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Some video highlights:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20&subj=news
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> More and better pictures:
>>>>>>>>> http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is it
> a
>>computer
>>>>>>>>>> running Mac OSX???
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Live blog
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> More to come!
>>>>
>>
>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78188 is a reply to message #78158] |
Thu, 11 January 2007 02:55 |
rick
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
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Senior Member |
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http://www.macrumors.com/
On 11 Jan 2007 09:29:55 +1000, "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>I checked it out. And if were a Mac user, I would pick it over the Treo Wx,
>since I'm more of a Windows guy, the Treo 700 WX is it for me..
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Yes, the Treo and the BB are both vary cool products. No Kool-Aid here.
>
>>It's kind of hard to grasp the capabilities of the iPhone with out watching
>>the keynote video in it's entirety. Once again, check it out.
>>
>>http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>James,
>>>Once again, you are "drinking the Apple Kool-aid" from Mr Jobs.
>>>
>>>The Iphone is cool, but not revolutionary. My Treo 700Wx (Windows) is just
>>>a s cool and Superior AND is very comaptible with my PC and all MS applications
>>>and other Windows apps.
>>>
>>>www.treo.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail, you might
>>>>want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are superior.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. It like having
>>>>>a:
>>>>>MP3player
>>>>>Ms word,
>>>>>Excel,
>>>>>powerpoint,
>>>>>Outlook 2003,
>>>>>Media Player 10
>>>>>Sprint TV
>>>>>Camera
>>>>>Recorder
>>>>>Cool keyboard
>>>>>Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>>>
>>>>>This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket.. :)
>>>>>For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>>>>
>>>>>LaMont
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Some video highlights:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20&subj=news
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>More and better pictures:
>>>>>>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is it a computer
>>>>>>>running Mac OSX???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Live blog
>>>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>>>http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>More to come!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78192 is a reply to message #78188] |
Thu, 11 January 2007 12:14 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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Senior Member |
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http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments_opinion/12 253/
rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>http://www.macrumors.com/
>
>
>
>On 11 Jan 2007 09:29:55 +1000, "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>I checked it out. And if were a Mac user, I would pick it over the Treo
Wx,
>>since I'm more of a Windows guy, the Treo 700 WX is it for me..
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Yes, the Treo and the BB are both vary cool products. No Kool-Aid here.
>>
>>>It's kind of hard to grasp the capabilities of the iPhone with out watching
>>>the keynote video in it's entirety. Once again, check it out.
>>>
>>>http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>>
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>James,
>>>>Once again, you are "drinking the Apple Kool-aid" from Mr Jobs.
>>>>
>>>>The Iphone is cool, but not revolutionary. My Treo 700Wx (Windows) is
just
>>>>a s cool and Superior AND is very comaptible with my PC and all MS applications
>>>>and other Windows apps.
>>>>
>>>>www.treo.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail, you
might
>>>>>want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are superior.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. It like
having
>>>>>>a:
>>>>>>MP3player
>>>>>>Ms word,
>>>>>>Excel,
>>>>>>powerpoint,
>>>>>>Outlook 2003,
>>>>>>Media Player 10
>>>>>>Sprint TV
>>>>>>Camera
>>>>>>Recorder
>>>>>>Cool keyboard
>>>>>>Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket.. :)
>>>>>>For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>LaMont
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Some video highlights:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20&subj=news
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>More and better pictures:
>>>>>>>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is it a
computer
>>>>>>>>running Mac OSX???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Live blog
>>>>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>>>>http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>More to come!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78198 is a reply to message #78185] |
Thu, 11 January 2007 14:58 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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Senior Member |
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Well Martin, you can call me a Mac zealot, but it's not exactly true. Unlike
you, I use and own both PCs and Macs. I actually use my PCs on a regular
basis. I've used PCs longer than I've used Macs, by about ten years. I've
been a licensed and authorized computer dealer. I've bought, sold, and built
many PCs
I think windows XP is a great improvement over MS's past operating systems.
I wish there was a feature or two in Mac OSX that Windows XP has, but that's
where it ends. I prefer Mac OSX to Windows because Windows machines are
a major PITA to deal with.
There are many other reasons why I don't like MS, one of which is all the
stuff they have ripped off from Apple. It's funny when people say MS/PC
stuff is great and anything Apple sucks, when MS stole it from Apple. Some
recent examples are, Media player, Vista, and Zune. MS just announced at
CES, that they are going to come out with set top boxes that are like the
Apple TV box. MS/Sony's will be round instead of square, but what color?
Gloss white like the apple products! It's the same thing. Hey, may be
MS's branded products will be shit brown like the LG products. LOL!
I mention new products to give people here a heads up here. I have mention
all kinds of products including PC only products. It's the Mac bashing!
You can't mention any thing Mac or Apple without some bashing here. It's
always the same guys. You have stated in the past that Mac OSX crashes.
That the guys you work with have told you and you've see it. I've been
using Mac OSX every day for over five years now with out a crash. I think
the other Mac guys here would tell you pretty much the same thing. I don't
know why they would have so much problems, but OSX is for the most part problem
free for most users. To state other wise is not correct generally speaking,
and sounds like typical mac bashing.
I've never had a virus on a Mac and I've been using them everyday since 1994!
I would say, most of the guys here that use PCs for audio, don't use the
same machine for the internet, to a Mac user that's crazy and laughable.
A lot of people say that a Mac cost twice as much as a PC, yeah, but you
have to have two of them to safely do what a Mac does. So what's it cost???
The logic is funny. Yes you can build a PC cheaper, but look at all the
problems and the hassle. Mac are not perfect, ricks G4 800 is an example
of a lemon, but it's not the norm. If you love Windows and you love to tinker
and build cheap machines, that's cool! Different strokes for different folks.
Just don't bash the Mac or the Mac users.
My original post about the iPhone was just to say check it out. I was impressed
with it's design and capabilities. It's slick! Of course the same guys
that bash any thing Apple Posted replys, and it becomes, So what, My thing
can do anything that can. My phone is better because it runs windows. The
old , my thing is bigger and better than your thing, pissing contest. My
windows PC is better than your Mac. It wasn't a contest post, or a draw
to arms challenge.
I wasn't trying to tell anybody to go buy one. The reply was, mine is better
and it doesn't get better because of Windows compatibility and software.
I said check it out, because you don't know until you check it out completely.
it is windows compatible. I stated the features, design and user interface
are superior. It's not a big and bulky as it's competitors. It's a smaller
sleeker design with a 3.5 LCD. The UI is obviously more advanced, they can
create new user interfaces in software in to the future to add more features
and software. It has better features like rich HTML web pages with zoom
in, web pages look like web pages, landscape viewing, text to voice etc.
It's best to go get an education on it and watch the video before you rip
on it just because it's an Apple product.
Yes, the video is a sales pitch! It's also a demo of the products. It's
always a good thing to know what your talking about first hand, especially
when your going to bash something.
James
"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>Hmmm, A "Zealot" calling the kettle black.
>I hope you re-read some of your recent posts in a week or two and discover
>what we all see.
>--
>Martin Harrington
>www.lendanear-sound.com
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:45a5ca84$1@linux...
>>
>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>The Treo 700wx does all those things: With a touch screen to boot.
>>>
>>>And while the Iphone syncs perfectly with itunes, the Treo 700 wx syncs
>> with
>>>Win Media player (with Play for sure technology) which is wayyy bettter
>> than
>>>itunes..
>>>
>>
>> I'm not knocking the Treo or the BB. I think for a windows user they
are
>> perfect. Those products have had time to mature, and quite a bit of third
>> party development. The iPhone looks pretty slick out of the gate. Only
>> time will tell if the iPhone will be a success. I have to say for the
>> average
>> guy the price is steep IMO, but not for someone with all the needs.
>> Again,
>> it should be noted, the iPhone is PC compatible.
>>
>> Well I'm not sure what you mean about the Plays for sure thing being
>> better
>> than iTunes, but if your in to MS DRM, cool!
>>
>> One thing I'll point out about Windows Media Player, is that they have
>> copied
>> the itunes interface, Aqua theme/look, even the Itunes logo with the aqua
>> musical note and the CD. It's all hard to not notice MS's blatant rip
off
>> of Apple design and innovation, just look at Vista. They been at it for
>> years.
>>
>>>
>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>LaMont wrote:
>>>>> Jamie, it's Kool-aid to actually believe that Apple has AGAIN (Lol!!)
>>>Re-invented
>>>>> the phone...
>>>>
>>>>Well, it's a phone/media player/PDA/camera (what did I leave out?). The
>>>
>>>>"reinvention" really has to do with the finger-touch-screen interface,
>>
>>>>right? So we'll see if it lives up to the hype when it ships.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Man, that guy (Mr Jobs) does not quit with his BS.. Please Mr Jobs
stop
>>>with
>>>>> the propaganda.
>>>>
>>>>Heh. It's a good thing you're immune to hyped advertising because we're
>>>
>>>>surrounded by it from all directions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Next week, if Apple comes out with a new version of Logic, they'll
>>>>> claim
>>>>> to ahve Re-Invented the DAW..
>>>>
>>>>They can claim whatever they want, as long as the next version is at
>>>>least as solid as the current version, further streamlined in the UI,
>>>>and no less capable. :^)
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Liking a product from a particular company isn't necessarily a koolaid
>>>
>>>>>> proposition. Sometimes engineers earn their fans.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In this case, it looks like Apple's engineers have done something
>>>>>> different from other options, with some unique interactive features
>> and
>>>>>
>>>>>> UI implementations that may well be useful to a lot of people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just as Palm and Blackberry have engineered products that have earned
>>>
>>>>>> the loyalty and praise of people who have found they need the features
>>>
>>>>>> they provide.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We can speculate before the iPhone ships but I'll withhold my final
>>
>>>>>> judgment until it's available to try.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Having said that, my first impression of all three, the iPhone, the
>>
>>>>>> Treo, the Blackberry, is that they ALL seem too big and clumsy for
>>>>>> phones.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So far, all I want from my phone is that it be a phone, and that it
>> be
>>>
>>>>>> compact and pocketable. My little fliptop LG does the trick. That
it's
>>>a
>>>>>
>>>>>> speakerphone is a bonus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I want a computer, I want something with a real screen and a
>>>>>> keyboard I can really type on, that runs my goto productivity
>>>>>> applications (video, audio, animation, and graphics apps, plus all
my
>>>
>>>>>> open source office, web and email apps). Which means for those times
>>>
>>>>>> when I need a computer with me, I take my PowerBook.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I need a camera, I want a real camera, currently a Canon digital
>>>SLR.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I can get by with something small that I can type on, I use a Psion
>>>
>>>>>> PDA (like a mini-laptop). Also works as a voice recorder. Cool little
>>>
>>>>>> box but long discontinued.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm resisting the all-in-one device. What if it fails? That's a lot
>> of
>>>
>>>>>> eggs in one basket. But I can see the appeal of the all-in-one if
it
>>>
>>>>>> could really cover what I need. None of them quite do that now. None
>>>of
>>>>>
>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But for people who have different needs, each of the clunky phones
has
>>>
>>>>>> appealing features. And for those people, it's not a matter of
>>>>>> koolaid,
>>>>>
>>>>>> it's a matter of using what works for them. What covers their needs.
>>>
>>>>>> Choice is good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LaMont wrote:
>>>>>>> James,
>>>>>>> Once again, you are "drinking the Apple Kool-aid" from Mr Jobs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Iphone is cool, but not revolutionary. My Treo 700Wx (Windows)
>> is
>>>>> just
>>>>>>> a s cool and Superior AND is very comaptible with my PC and all MS
>> applications
>>>>>>> and other Windows apps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> www.treo.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail,
you
>>>might
>>>>>>>> want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are
>>>>>>>> superior.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. It
like
>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>> a:
>>>>>>>>> MP3player
>>>>>>>>> Ms word,
>>>>>>>>> Excel,
>>>>>>>>> powerpoint,
>>>>>>>>> Outlook 2003,
>>>>>>>>> Media Player 10
>>>>>>>>> Sprint TV
>>>>>>>>> Camera
>>>>>>>>> Recorder
>>>>>>>>> Cool keyboard
>>>>>>>>> Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket.. :)
>>>>>>>>> For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LaMont
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Some video highlights:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20&subj=news
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> More and better pictures:
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is it
>> a
>>>computer
>>>>>>>>>>> running Mac OSX???
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Live blog
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> More to come!
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78203 is a reply to message #78198] |
Thu, 11 January 2007 17:37 |
Ted Gerber
Messages: 705
Registered: January 2009
|
Senior Member |
|
|
I have never entered into any computer platform discussion pro or con
in this newsgroup. I have my own preferences having worked on both, but I'm
not pushing my views on anyone else, except over beers at the local pub with
friends who are ready, willing and able. (As an aside, they are 1. Always
vehemont, and 2. Without any actual real world experience on one of the
platforms in question).
I have to say that I am amazed by the venom that spews whenever someone
points to something Mac. It seems irrational to me. As if Steve Jobs personally
injured some on this group. Why do we worry so much about things we have
no
control over? If someone points out a new plug, or a new amp, or instrument,
things usually don't get personal. The recent donnybrook over Politics, Religion
and
War is regrettable but not surprising. But somebody pointing to a new product
from a computer co and getting sarcasm, disgust, resentment and
mockery just makes no sense.
Ted
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Well Martin, you can call me a Mac zealot, but it's not exactly true. Unlike
>you, I use and own both PCs and Macs. I actually use my PCs on a regular
>basis. I've used PCs longer than I've used Macs, by about ten years. I've
>been a licensed and authorized computer dealer. I've bought, sold, and
built
>many PCs
>
>I think windows XP is a great improvement over MS's past operating systems.
> I wish there was a feature or two in Mac OSX that Windows XP has, but that's
>where it ends. I prefer Mac OSX to Windows because Windows machines are
>a major PITA to deal with.
>
>There are many other reasons why I don't like MS, one of which is all the
>stuff they have ripped off from Apple. It's funny when people say MS/PC
>stuff is great and anything Apple sucks, when MS stole it from Apple. Some
>recent examples are, Media player, Vista, and Zune. MS just announced at
>CES, that they are going to come out with set top boxes that are like the
>Apple TV box. MS/Sony's will be round instead of square, but what color?
> Gloss white like the apple products! It's the same thing. Hey, may be
>MS's branded products will be shit brown like the LG products. LOL!
>
>I mention new products to give people here a heads up here. I have mention
>all kinds of products including PC only products. It's the Mac bashing!
> You can't mention any thing Mac or Apple without some bashing here. It's
>always the same guys. You have stated in the past that Mac OSX crashes.
> That the guys you work with have told you and you've see it. I've been
>using Mac OSX every day for over five years now with out a crash. I think
>the other Mac guys here would tell you pretty much the same thing. I don't
>know why they would have so much problems, but OSX is for the most part
problem
>free for most users. To state other wise is not correct generally speaking,
>and sounds like typical mac bashing.
>
>I've never had a virus on a Mac and I've been using them everyday since
1994!
> I would say, most of the guys here that use PCs for audio, don't use the
>same machine for the internet, to a Mac user that's crazy and laughable.
> A lot of people say that a Mac cost twice as much as a PC, yeah, but you
>have to have two of them to safely do what a Mac does. So what's it cost???
>The logic is funny. Yes you can build a PC cheaper, but look at all the
>problems and the hassle. Mac are not perfect, ricks G4 800 is an example
>of a lemon, but it's not the norm. If you love Windows and you love to
tinker
>and build cheap machines, that's cool! Different strokes for different
folks.
> Just don't bash the Mac or the Mac users.
>
>My original post about the iPhone was just to say check it out. I was impressed
>with it's design and capabilities. It's slick! Of course the same guys
>that bash any thing Apple Posted replys, and it becomes, So what, My thing
>can do anything that can. My phone is better because it runs windows.
The
>old , my thing is bigger and better than your thing, pissing contest. My
>windows PC is better than your Mac. It wasn't a contest post, or a draw
>to arms challenge.
>
>I wasn't trying to tell anybody to go buy one. The reply was, mine is better
>and it doesn't get better because of Windows compatibility and software.
> I said check it out, because you don't know until you check it out completely.
> it is windows compatible. I stated the features, design and user interface
>are superior. It's not a big and bulky as it's competitors. It's a smaller
>sleeker design with a 3.5 LCD. The UI is obviously more advanced, they
can
>create new user interfaces in software in to the future to add more features
>and software. It has better features like rich HTML web pages with zoom
>in, web pages look like web pages, landscape viewing, text to voice etc.
> It's best to go get an education on it and watch the video before you rip
>on it just because it's an Apple product.
>
>Yes, the video is a sales pitch! It's also a demo of the products. It's
>always a good thing to know what your talking about first hand, especially
>when your going to bash something.
>
>James
>
>"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>Hmmm, A "Zealot" calling the kettle black.
>>I hope you re-read some of your recent posts in a week or two and discover
>
>>what we all see.
>>--
>>Martin Harrington
>>www.lendanear-sound.com
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:45a5ca84$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>The Treo 700wx does all those things: With a touch screen to boot.
>>>>
>>>>And while the Iphone syncs perfectly with itunes, the Treo 700 wx syncs
>>> with
>>>>Win Media player (with Play for sure technology) which is wayyy bettter
>>> than
>>>>itunes..
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not knocking the Treo or the BB. I think for a windows user they
>are
>>> perfect. Those products have had time to mature, and quite a bit of
third
>>> party development. The iPhone looks pretty slick out of the gate. Only
>>> time will tell if the iPhone will be a success. I have to say for the
>
>>> average
>>> guy the price is steep IMO, but not for someone with all the needs.
>>> Again,
>>> it should be noted, the iPhone is PC compatible.
>>>
>>> Well I'm not sure what you mean about the Plays for sure thing being
>>> better
>>> than iTunes, but if your in to MS DRM, cool!
>>>
>>> One thing I'll point out about Windows Media Player, is that they have
>
>>> copied
>>> the itunes interface, Aqua theme/look, even the Itunes logo with the
aqua
>>> musical note and the CD. It's all hard to not notice MS's blatant rip
>off
>>> of Apple design and innovation, just look at Vista. They been at it
for
>>> years.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>LaMont wrote:
>>>>>> Jamie, it's Kool-aid to actually believe that Apple has AGAIN (Lol!!)
>>>>Re-invented
>>>>>> the phone...
>>>>>
>>>>>Well, it's a phone/media player/PDA/camera (what did I leave out?).
The
>>>>
>>>>>"reinvention" really has to do with the finger-touch-screen interface,
>>>
>>>>>right? So we'll see if it lives up to the hype when it ships.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Man, that guy (Mr Jobs) does not quit with his BS.. Please Mr Jobs
>stop
>>>>with
>>>>>> the propaganda.
>>>>>
>>>>>Heh. It's a good thing you're immune to hyped advertising because we're
>>>>
>>>>>surrounded by it from all directions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Next week, if Apple comes out with a new version of Logic, they'll
>
>>>>>> claim
>>>>>> to ahve Re-Invented the DAW..
>>>>>
>>>>>They can claim whatever they want, as long as the next version is at
>>>>>least as solid as the current version, further streamlined in the UI,
>>>>>and no less capable. :^)
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Liking a product from a particular company isn't necessarily a koolaid
>>>>
>>>>>>> proposition. Sometimes engineers earn their fans.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In this case, it looks like Apple's engineers have done something
>>>>>>> different from other options, with some unique interactive features
>>> and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> UI implementations that may well be useful to a lot of people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just as Palm and Blackberry have engineered products that have earned
>>>>
>>>>>>> the loyalty and praise of people who have found they need the features
>>>>
>>>>>>> they provide.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We can speculate before the iPhone ships but I'll withhold my final
>>>
>>>>>>> judgment until it's available to try.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Having said that, my first impression of all three, the iPhone, the
>>>
>>>>>>> Treo, the Blackberry, is that they ALL seem too big and clumsy for
>
>>>>>>> phones.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So far, all I want from my phone is that it be a phone, and that
it
>>> be
>>>>
>>>>>>> compact and pocketable. My little fliptop LG does the trick. That
>it's
>>>>a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> speakerphone is a bonus.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I want a computer, I want something with a real screen and a
>>>>>>> keyboard I can really type on, that runs my goto productivity
>>>>>>> applications (video, audio, animation, and graphics apps, plus all
>my
>>>>
>>>>>>> open source office, web and email apps). Which means for those times
>>>>
>>>>>>> when I need a computer with me, I take my PowerBook.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I need a camera, I want a real camera, currently a Canon digital
>>>>SLR.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I can get by with something small that I can type on, I use a
Psion
>>>>
>>>>>>> PDA (like a mini-laptop). Also works as a voice recorder. Cool little
>>>>
>>>>>>> box but long discontinued.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm resisting the all-in-one device. What if it fails? That's a lot
>>> of
>>>>
>>>>>>> eggs in one basket. But I can see the appeal of the all-in-one if
>it
>>>>
>>>>>>> could really cover what I need. None of them quite do that now. None
>>>>of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But for people who have different needs, each of the clunky phones
>has
>>>>
>>>>>>> appealing features. And for those people, it's not a matter of
>>>>>>> koolaid,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it's a matter of using what works for them. What covers their needs.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Choice is good.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LaMont wrote:
>>>>>>>> James,
>>>>>>>> Once again, you are "drinking the Apple Kool-aid" from Mr Jobs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Iphone is cool, but not revolutionary. My Treo 700Wx (Windows)
>>> is
>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> a s cool and Superior AND is very comaptible with my PC and all
MS
>>> applications
>>>>>>>> and other Windows apps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> www.treo.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail,
>you
>>>>might
>>>>>>>>> want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are
>>>>>>>>> superior.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. It
>like
>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>>> a:
>>>>>>>>>> MP3player
>>>>>>>>>> Ms word,
>>>>>>>>>> Excel,
>>>>>>>>>> powerpoint,
>>>>>>>>>> Outlook 2003,
>>>>>>>>>> Media Player 10
>>>>>>>>>> Sprint TV
>>>>>>>>>> Camera
>>>>>>>>>> Recorder
>>>>>>>>>> Cool keyboard
>>>>>>>>>> Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket.. :)
>>>>>>>>>> For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LaMont
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Some video highlights:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20=news
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> More and better pictures:
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is
it
>>> a
>>>>computer
>>>>>>>>>>>> running Mac OSX???
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Live blog
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> More to come!
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78204 is a reply to message #78203] |
Thu, 11 January 2007 16:59 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
|
You sound like a MAC guy... ;-)
David.
hehehe
Ted Gerber wrote:
> I have never entered into any computer platform discussion pro or con
> in this newsgroup. I have my own preferences having worked on both, but I'm
> not pushing my views on anyone else, except over beers at the local pub with
> friends who are ready, willing and able. (As an aside, they are 1. Always
> vehemont, and 2. Without any actual real world experience on one of the
> platforms in question).
>
> I have to say that I am amazed by the venom that spews whenever someone
> points to something Mac. It seems irrational to me. As if Steve Jobs personally
> injured some on this group. Why do we worry so much about things we have
> no
> control over? If someone points out a new plug, or a new amp, or instrument,
> things usually don't get personal. The recent donnybrook over Politics, Religion
> and
> War is regrettable but not surprising. But somebody pointing to a new product
> from a computer co and getting sarcasm, disgust, resentment and
> mockery just makes no sense.
>
> Ted
>
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Well Martin, you can call me a Mac zealot, but it's not exactly true. Unlike
>>you, I use and own both PCs and Macs. I actually use my PCs on a regular
>>basis. I've used PCs longer than I've used Macs, by about ten years. I've
>>been a licensed and authorized computer dealer. I've bought, sold, and
>
> built
>
>>many PCs
>>
>>I think windows XP is a great improvement over MS's past operating systems.
>>I wish there was a feature or two in Mac OSX that Windows XP has, but that's
>>where it ends. I prefer Mac OSX to Windows because Windows machines are
>>a major PITA to deal with.
>>
>>There are many other reasons why I don't like MS, one of which is all the
>>stuff they have ripped off from Apple. It's funny when people say MS/PC
>>stuff is great and anything Apple sucks, when MS stole it from Apple. Some
>>recent examples are, Media player, Vista, and Zune. MS just announced at
>>CES, that they are going to come out with set top boxes that are like the
>>Apple TV box. MS/Sony's will be round instead of square, but what color?
>>Gloss white like the apple products! It's the same thing. Hey, may be
>>MS's branded products will be shit brown like the LG products. LOL!
>>
>>I mention new products to give people here a heads up here. I have mention
>>all kinds of products including PC only products. It's the Mac bashing!
>>You can't mention any thing Mac or Apple without some bashing here. It's
>>always the same guys. You have stated in the past that Mac OSX crashes.
>>That the guys you work with have told you and you've see it. I've been
>>using Mac OSX every day for over five years now with out a crash. I think
>>the other Mac guys here would tell you pretty much the same thing. I don't
>>know why they would have so much problems, but OSX is for the most part
>
> problem
>
>>free for most users. To state other wise is not correct generally speaking,
>>and sounds like typical mac bashing.
>>
>>I've never had a virus on a Mac and I've been using them everyday since
>
> 1994!
>
>>I would say, most of the guys here that use PCs for audio, don't use the
>>same machine for the internet, to a Mac user that's crazy and laughable.
>>A lot of people say that a Mac cost twice as much as a PC, yeah, but you
>>have to have two of them to safely do what a Mac does. So what's it cost???
>>The logic is funny. Yes you can build a PC cheaper, but look at all the
>>problems and the hassle. Mac are not perfect, ricks G4 800 is an example
>>of a lemon, but it's not the norm. If you love Windows and you love to
>
> tinker
>
>>and build cheap machines, that's cool! Different strokes for different
>
> folks.
>
>>Just don't bash the Mac or the Mac users.
>>
>>My original post about the iPhone was just to say check it out. I was impressed
>>with it's design and capabilities. It's slick! Of course the same guys
>>that bash any thing Apple Posted replys, and it becomes, So what, My thing
>>can do anything that can. My phone is better because it runs windows.
>
> The
>
>>old , my thing is bigger and better than your thing, pissing contest. My
>>windows PC is better than your Mac. It wasn't a contest post, or a draw
>>to arms challenge.
>>
>>I wasn't trying to tell anybody to go buy one. The reply was, mine is better
>>and it doesn't get better because of Windows compatibility and software.
>>I said check it out, because you don't know until you check it out completely.
>>it is windows compatible. I stated the features, design and user interface
>>are superior. It's not a big and bulky as it's competitors. It's a smaller
>>sleeker design with a 3.5 LCD. The UI is obviously more advanced, they
>
> can
>
>>create new user interfaces in software in to the future to add more features
>>and software. It has better features like rich HTML web pages with zoom
>>in, web pages look like web pages, landscape viewing, text to voice etc.
>>It's best to go get an education on it and watch the video before you rip
>>on it just because it's an Apple product.
>>
>>Yes, the video is a sales pitch! It's also a demo of the products. It's
>>always a good thing to know what your talking about first hand, especially
>>when your going to bash something.
>>
>>James
>>
>>"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>
>>>Hmmm, A "Zealot" calling the kettle black.
>>>I hope you re-read some of your recent posts in a week or two and discover
>>
>>>what we all see.
>>>--
>>>Martin Harrington
>>>www.lendanear-sound.com
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:45a5ca84$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>The Treo 700wx does all those things: With a touch screen to boot.
>>>>>
>>>>>And while the Iphone syncs perfectly with itunes, the Treo 700 wx syncs
>>>>
>>>>with
>>>>
>>>>>Win Media player (with Play for sure technology) which is wayyy bettter
>>>>
>>>>than
>>>>
>>>>>itunes..
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I'm not knocking the Treo or the BB. I think for a windows user they
>>
>>are
>>
>>>>perfect. Those products have had time to mature, and quite a bit of
>
> third
>
>>>>party development. The iPhone looks pretty slick out of the gate. Only
>>>>time will tell if the iPhone will be a success. I have to say for the
>>
>>>>average
>>>>guy the price is steep IMO, but not for someone with all the needs.
>>>>Again,
>>>>it should be noted, the iPhone is PC compatible.
>>>>
>>>>Well I'm not sure what you mean about the Plays for sure thing being
>
>
>>>>better
>>>>than iTunes, but if your in to MS DRM, cool!
>>>>
>>>>One thing I'll point out about Windows Media Player, is that they have
>>
>>>>copied
>>>>the itunes interface, Aqua theme/look, even the Itunes logo with the
>
> aqua
>
>>>>musical note and the CD. It's all hard to not notice MS's blatant rip
>>
>>off
>>
>>>>of Apple design and innovation, just look at Vista. They been at it
>
> for
>
>>>>years.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>LaMont wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Jamie, it's Kool-aid to actually believe that Apple has AGAIN (Lol!!)
>>>>>
>>>>>Re-invented
>>>>>
>>>>>>>the phone...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well, it's a phone/media player/PDA/camera (what did I leave out?).
>
> The
>
>>>>>>"reinvention" really has to do with the finger-touch-screen interface,
>>>>
>>>>>>right? So we'll see if it lives up to the hype when it ships.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Man, that guy (Mr Jobs) does not quit with his BS.. Please Mr Jobs
>>
>>stop
>>
>>>>>with
>>>>>
>>>>>>>the propaganda.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Heh. It's a good thing you're immune to hyped advertising because we're
>>>>>
>>>>>>surrounded by it from all directions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Next week, if Apple comes out with a new version of Logic, they'll
>>
>>>>>>>claim
>>>>>>>to ahve Re-Invented the DAW..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>They can claim whatever they want, as long as the next version is at
>>>>>>least as solid as the current version, further streamlined in the UI,
>>>>>>and no less capable. :^)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Liking a product from a particular company isn't necessarily a koolaid
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>proposition. Sometimes engineers earn their fans.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>In this case, it looks like Apple's engineers have done something
>>>>>>>>different from other options, with some unique interactive features
>>>>
>>>>and
>>>>
>>>>>>>>UI implementations that may well be useful to a lot of people.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Just as Palm and Blackberry have engineered products that have earned
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the loyalty and praise of people who have found they need the features
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>they provide.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>We can speculate before the iPhone ships but I'll withhold my final
>>>>
>>>>>>>>judgment until it's available to try.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Having said that, my first impression of all three, the iPhone, the
>>>>
>>>>>>>>Treo, the Blackberry, is that they ALL seem too big and clumsy for
>>
>>>>>>>>phones.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>So far, all I want from my phone is that it be a phone, and that
>
> it
>
>>>>be
>>>>
>>>>>>>>compact and pocketable. My little fliptop LG does the trick. That
>>
>>it's
>>
>>>>>a
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>speakerphone is a bonus.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>When I want a computer, I want something with a real screen and a
>>>>>>>>keyboard I can really type on, that runs my goto productivity
>>>>>>>>applications (video, audio, animation, and graphics apps, plus all
>>
>>my
>>
>>>>>>>>open source office, web and email apps). Which means for those times
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>when I need a computer with me, I take my PowerBook.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>When I need a camera, I want a real camera, currently a Canon digital
>>>>>
>>>>>SLR.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If I can get by with something small that I can type on, I use a
>
> Psion
>
>>>>>>>>PDA (like a mini-laptop). Also works as a voice recorder. Cool little
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>box but long discontinued.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I'm resisting the all-in-one device. What if it fails? That's a lot
>>>>
>>>>of
>>>>
>>>>>>>>eggs in one basket. But I can see the appeal of the all-in-one if
>>
>>it
>>
>>>>>>>>could really cover what I need. None of them quite do that now. None
>>>>>
>>>>>of
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>But for people who have different needs, each of the clunky phones
>>
>>has
>>
>>>>>>>>appealing features. And for those people, it's not a matter of
>>>>>>>>koolaid,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>it's a matter of using what works for them. What covers their needs.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Choice is good.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>LaMont wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>James,
>>>>>>>>>Once again, you are "drinking the Apple Kool-aid" from Mr Jobs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The Iphone is cool, but not revolutionary. My Treo 700Wx (Windows)
>>>>
>>>>is
>>>>
>>>>>>>just
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>a s cool and Superior AND is very comaptible with my PC and all
>
> MS
>
>>>>applications
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>and other Windows apps.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>www.treo.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail,
>>
>>you
>>
>>>>>might
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>superior.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. It
>>
>>like
>>
>>>>>>>having
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>a:
>>>>>>>>>>>MP3player
>>>>>>>>>>>Ms word,
>>>>>>>>>>>Excel,
>>>>>>>>>>>powerpoint,
>>>>>>>>>>>Outlook 2003,
>>>>>>>>>>>Media Player 10
>>>>>>>>>>>Sprint TV
>>>>>>>>>>>Camera
>>>>>>>>>>>Recorder
>>>>>>>>>>>Cool keyboard
>>>>>>>>>>>Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket.. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>LaMont
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Some video highlights:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20=news
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>More and better pictures:
>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is
>
> it
>
>>>>a
>>>>
>>>>>computer
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>running Mac OSX???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Live blog
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>More to come!
>>>>>>>
>>>
>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78205 is a reply to message #78192] |
Thu, 11 January 2007 17:48 |
Ted Gerber
Messages: 705
Registered: January 2009
|
Senior Member |
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I was pretty surprised to see all 3 of the daily papers here in Toronto
run the iPhone on the front page. Every comment was surprisingly gung ho.
FUD showed up with an unrelated article linking Jobs to stock manipulation.
I have a close engineer friend at RIM who's been there for 15 years (at least).
RIM's office is an hour West of me. I know that there is much disappointment
that
the cooperative plans for an "AppleBerry" did not materialize.
Ted
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments_opinion/12 253/
>
>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>http://www.macrumors.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>On 11 Jan 2007 09:29:55 +1000, "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>I checked it out. And if were a Mac user, I would pick it over the Treo
>Wx,
>>>since I'm more of a Windows guy, the Treo 700 WX is it for me..
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Yes, the Treo and the BB are both vary cool products. No Kool-Aid here.
>>>
>>>>It's kind of hard to grasp the capabilities of the iPhone with out watching
>>>>the keynote video in it's entirety. Once again, check it out.
>>>>
>>>>http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>James,
>>>>>Once again, you are "drinking the Apple Kool-aid" from Mr Jobs.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Iphone is cool, but not revolutionary. My Treo 700Wx (Windows) is
>just
>>>>>a s cool and Superior AND is very comaptible with my PC and all MS applications
>>>>>and other Windows apps.
>>>>>
>>>>>www.treo.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail, you
>might
>>>>>>want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are superior.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. It like
>having
>>>>>>>a:
>>>>>>>MP3player
>>>>>>>Ms word,
>>>>>>>Excel,
>>>>>>>powerpoint,
>>>>>>>Outlook 2003,
>>>>>>>Media Player 10
>>>>>>>Sprint TV
>>>>>>>Camera
>>>>>>>Recorder
>>>>>>>Cool keyboard
>>>>>>>Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket.. :)
>>>>>>>For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>LaMont
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Some video highlights:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20&subj=news
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>More and better pictures:
>>>>>>>>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is it a
>computer
>>>>>>>>>running Mac OSX???
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Live blog
>>>>>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>>>>>http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>More to come!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78208 is a reply to message #78203] |
Thu, 11 January 2007 18:39 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
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Senior Member |
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Hi Ted and others,
I think the reason(s) why the mention of Steve Jobs and Keynotes brings out
so much venom, as you say, is because of the both the past and even current
lies and propaganda that spews from his mouth..
Statements like : Re-invent and Faster Personal Computer ever in my opinion
is just plain wrong. I know too many had working people who believed His
(Jobs) hype. Only to be sorely disa pointed when they found out that the
Cpu test were rigged, and their Mac did "crash" on both OS8,9 and even OS-X(all
versions).
He (Jobs) usually mocks at windows user and Microsoft when he starts his
keynote.(read: Dumb) When 90 percent of this world are using Windows based
computers.
So, the venom is actually corrections to the lies Mr Jobs spews. When Mac
users come and reguritate Mr Jobs lies, most Windows users will not just
let them get away with such.
I don't see anything wrong with setting the record straight.
P.S.
The Mac Pro is currently thee fastest Personal Computer on the market.. :)
"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>I have never entered into any computer platform discussion pro or con
>in this newsgroup. I have my own preferences having worked on both, but
I'm
>not pushing my views on anyone else, except over beers at the local pub
with
>friends who are ready, willing and able. (As an aside, they are 1. Always
>vehemont, and 2. Without any actual real world experience on one of the
>platforms in question).
>
>I have to say that I am amazed by the venom that spews whenever someone
>points to something Mac. It seems irrational to me. As if Steve Jobs personally
>injured some on this group. Why do we worry so much about things we have
>no
>control over? If someone points out a new plug, or a new amp, or instrument,
>things usually don't get personal. The recent donnybrook over Politics,
Religion
>and
>War is regrettable but not surprising. But somebody pointing to a new product
>from a computer co and getting sarcasm, disgust, resentment and
>mockery just makes no sense.
>
>Ted
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Well Martin, you can call me a Mac zealot, but it's not exactly true.
Unlike
>>you, I use and own both PCs and Macs. I actually use my PCs on a regular
>>basis. I've used PCs longer than I've used Macs, by about ten years.
I've
>>been a licensed and authorized computer dealer. I've bought, sold, and
>built
>>many PCs
>>
>>I think windows XP is a great improvement over MS's past operating systems.
>> I wish there was a feature or two in Mac OSX that Windows XP has, but
that's
>>where it ends. I prefer Mac OSX to Windows because Windows machines are
>>a major PITA to deal with.
>>
>>There are many other reasons why I don't like MS, one of which is all the
>>stuff they have ripped off from Apple. It's funny when people say MS/PC
>>stuff is great and anything Apple sucks, when MS stole it from Apple.
Some
>>recent examples are, Media player, Vista, and Zune. MS just announced
at
>>CES, that they are going to come out with set top boxes that are like the
>>Apple TV box. MS/Sony's will be round instead of square, but what color?
>> Gloss white like the apple products! It's the same thing. Hey, may be
>>MS's branded products will be shit brown like the LG products. LOL!
>>
>>I mention new products to give people here a heads up here. I have mention
>>all kinds of products including PC only products. It's the Mac bashing!
>> You can't mention any thing Mac or Apple without some bashing here. It's
>>always the same guys. You have stated in the past that Mac OSX crashes.
>> That the guys you work with have told you and you've see it. I've been
>>using Mac OSX every day for over five years now with out a crash. I think
>>the other Mac guys here would tell you pretty much the same thing. I don't
>>know why they would have so much problems, but OSX is for the most part
>problem
>>free for most users. To state other wise is not correct generally speaking,
>>and sounds like typical mac bashing.
>>
>>I've never had a virus on a Mac and I've been using them everyday since
>1994!
>> I would say, most of the guys here that use PCs for audio, don't use the
>>same machine for the internet, to a Mac user that's crazy and laughable.
>> A lot of people say that a Mac cost twice as much as a PC, yeah, but you
>>have to have two of them to safely do what a Mac does. So what's it cost???
>>The logic is funny. Yes you can build a PC cheaper, but look at all the
>>problems and the hassle. Mac are not perfect, ricks G4 800 is an example
>>of a lemon, but it's not the norm. If you love Windows and you love to
>tinker
>>and build cheap machines, that's cool! Different strokes for different
>folks.
>> Just don't bash the Mac or the Mac users.
>>
>>My original post about the iPhone was just to say check it out. I was
impressed
>>with it's design and capabilities. It's slick! Of course the same guys
>>that bash any thing Apple Posted replys, and it becomes, So what, My thing
>>can do anything that can. My phone is better because it runs windows.
>The
>>old , my thing is bigger and better than your thing, pissing contest.
My
>>windows PC is better than your Mac. It wasn't a contest post, or a draw
>>to arms challenge.
>>
>>I wasn't trying to tell anybody to go buy one. The reply was, mine is
better
>>and it doesn't get better because of Windows compatibility and software.
>> I said check it out, because you don't know until you check it out completely.
>> it is windows compatible. I stated the features, design and user interface
>>are superior. It's not a big and bulky as it's competitors. It's a smaller
>>sleeker design with a 3.5 LCD. The UI is obviously more advanced, they
>can
>>create new user interfaces in software in to the future to add more features
>>and software. It has better features like rich HTML web pages with zoom
>>in, web pages look like web pages, landscape viewing, text to voice etc.
>> It's best to go get an education on it and watch the video before you
rip
>>on it just because it's an Apple product.
>>
>>Yes, the video is a sales pitch! It's also a demo of the products. It's
>>always a good thing to know what your talking about first hand, especially
>>when your going to bash something.
>>
>>James
>>
>>"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>>Hmmm, A "Zealot" calling the kettle black.
>>>I hope you re-read some of your recent posts in a week or two and discover
>>
>>>what we all see.
>>>--
>>>Martin Harrington
>>>www.lendanear-sound.com
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:45a5ca84$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>The Treo 700wx does all those things: With a touch screen to boot.
>>>>>
>>>>>And while the Iphone syncs perfectly with itunes, the Treo 700 wx syncs
>>>> with
>>>>>Win Media player (with Play for sure technology) which is wayyy bettter
>>>> than
>>>>>itunes..
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not knocking the Treo or the BB. I think for a windows user they
>>are
>>>> perfect. Those products have had time to mature, and quite a bit of
>third
>>>> party development. The iPhone looks pretty slick out of the gate.
Only
>>>> time will tell if the iPhone will be a success. I have to say for the
>>
>>>> average
>>>> guy the price is steep IMO, but not for someone with all the needs.
>>>> Again,
>>>> it should be noted, the iPhone is PC compatible.
>>>>
>>>> Well I'm not sure what you mean about the Plays for sure thing being
>
>>>> better
>>>> than iTunes, but if your in to MS DRM, cool!
>>>>
>>>> One thing I'll point out about Windows Media Player, is that they have
>>
>>>> copied
>>>> the itunes interface, Aqua theme/look, even the Itunes logo with the
>aqua
>>>> musical note and the CD. It's all hard to not notice MS's blatant rip
>>off
>>>> of Apple design and innovation, just look at Vista. They been at it
>for
>>>> years.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>LaMont wrote:
>>>>>>> Jamie, it's Kool-aid to actually believe that Apple has AGAIN (Lol!!)
>>>>>Re-invented
>>>>>>> the phone...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well, it's a phone/media player/PDA/camera (what did I leave out?).
>The
>>>>>
>>>>>>"reinvention" really has to do with the finger-touch-screen interface,
>>>>
>>>>>>right? So we'll see if it lives up to the hype when it ships.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Man, that guy (Mr Jobs) does not quit with his BS.. Please Mr Jobs
>>stop
>>>>>with
>>>>>>> the propaganda.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Heh. It's a good thing you're immune to hyped advertising because we're
>>>>>
>>>>>>surrounded by it from all directions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Next week, if Apple comes out with a new version of Logic, they'll
>>
>>>>>>> claim
>>>>>>> to ahve Re-Invented the DAW..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>They can claim whatever they want, as long as the next version is at
>>>>>>least as solid as the current version, further streamlined in the UI,
>>>>>>and no less capable. :^)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Liking a product from a particular company isn't necessarily a koolaid
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> proposition. Sometimes engineers earn their fans.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In this case, it looks like Apple's engineers have done something
>>>>>>>> different from other options, with some unique interactive features
>>>> and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> UI implementations that may well be useful to a lot of people.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just as Palm and Blackberry have engineered products that have earned
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the loyalty and praise of people who have found they need the features
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> they provide.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We can speculate before the iPhone ships but I'll withhold my final
>>>>
>>>>>>>> judgment until it's available to try.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Having said that, my first impression of all three, the iPhone,
the
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Treo, the Blackberry, is that they ALL seem too big and clumsy for
>>
>>>>>>>> phones.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So far, all I want from my phone is that it be a phone, and that
>it
>>>> be
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> compact and pocketable. My little fliptop LG does the trick. That
>>it's
>>>>>a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> speakerphone is a bonus.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I want a computer, I want something with a real screen and
a
>>>>>>>> keyboard I can really type on, that runs my goto productivity
>>>>>>>> applications (video, audio, animation, and graphics apps, plus all
>>my
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> open source office, web and email apps). Which means for those times
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> when I need a computer with me, I take my PowerBook.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I need a camera, I want a real camera, currently a Canon digital
>>>>>SLR.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If I can get by with something small that I can type on, I use a
>Psion
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PDA (like a mini-laptop). Also works as a voice recorder. Cool little
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> box but long discontinued.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm resisting the all-in-one device. What if it fails? That's a
lot
>>>> of
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> eggs in one basket. But I can see the appeal of the all-in-one if
>>it
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> could really cover what I need. None of them quite do that now.
None
>>>>>of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But for people who have different needs, each of the clunky phones
>>has
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> appealing features. And for those people, it's not a matter of
>>>>>>>> koolaid,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> it's a matter of using what works for them. What covers their needs.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Choice is good.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LaMont wrote:
>>>>>>>>> James,
>>>>>>>>> Once again, you are "drinking the Apple Kool-aid" from Mr Jobs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Iphone is cool, but not revolutionary. My Treo 700Wx (Windows)
>>>> is
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>> a s cool and Superior AND is very comaptible with my PC and all
>MS
>>>> applications
>>>>>>>>> and other Windows apps.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> www.treo.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail,
>>you
>>>>>might
>>>>>>>>>> want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are
>
>>>>>>>>>> superior.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. It
>>like
>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>>>> a:
>>>>>>>>>>> MP3player
>>>>>>>>>>> Ms word,
>>>>>>>>>>> Excel,
>>>>>>>>>>> powerpoint,
>>>>>>>>>>> Outlook 2003,
>>>>>>>>>>> Media Player 10
>>>>>>>>>>> Sprint TV
>>>>>>>>>>> Camera
>>>>>>>>>>> Recorder
>>>>>>>>>>> Cool keyboard
>>>>>>>>>>> Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket..
:)
>>>>>>>>>>> For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> LaMont
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Some video highlights:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20=news
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> More and better pictures:
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is
>it
>>>> a
>>>>>computer
>>>>>>>>>>>>> running Mac OSX???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Live blog
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> More to come!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78209 is a reply to message #78204] |
Thu, 11 January 2007 19:43 |
Ted Gerber
Messages: 705
Registered: January 2009
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Actually I'm 6th generation Canadian. In fact my wife
just found out she's part Metis. Something to do with
Louis and the boys horsing around a bit East of you 100
years ago or so.
I've been in Calgary a few times since I last saw
you. Been in too much of a rush to drop in. Hopefully next time...
Peace,
Ted
EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>You sound like a MAC guy... ;-)
>
>David.
>hehehe
>
>Ted Gerber wrote:
>
>> I have never entered into any computer platform discussion pro or con
>> in this newsgroup. I have my own preferences having worked on both, but
I'm
>> not pushing my views on anyone else, except over beers at the local pub
with
>> friends who are ready, willing and able. (As an aside, they are 1. Always
>> vehemont, and 2. Without any actual real world experience on one of the
>> platforms in question).
>>
>> I have to say that I am amazed by the venom that spews whenever someone
>> points to something Mac. It seems irrational to me. As if Steve Jobs personally
>> injured some on this group. Why do we worry so much about things we have
>> no
>> control over? If someone points out a new plug, or a new amp, or instrument,
>> things usually don't get personal. The recent donnybrook over Politics,
Religion
>> and
>> War is regrettable but not surprising. But somebody pointing to a new
product
>> from a computer co and getting sarcasm, disgust, resentment and
>> mockery just makes no sense.
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Well Martin, you can call me a Mac zealot, but it's not exactly true.
Unlike
>>>you, I use and own both PCs and Macs. I actually use my PCs on a regular
>>>basis. I've used PCs longer than I've used Macs, by about ten years.
I've
>>>been a licensed and authorized computer dealer. I've bought, sold, and
>>
>> built
>>
>>>many PCs
>>>
>>>I think windows XP is a great improvement over MS's past operating systems.
>>>I wish there was a feature or two in Mac OSX that Windows XP has, but
that's
>>>where it ends. I prefer Mac OSX to Windows because Windows machines are
>>>a major PITA to deal with.
>>>
>>>There are many other reasons why I don't like MS, one of which is all
the
>>>stuff they have ripped off from Apple. It's funny when people say MS/PC
>>>stuff is great and anything Apple sucks, when MS stole it from Apple.
Some
>>>recent examples are, Media player, Vista, and Zune. MS just announced
at
>>>CES, that they are going to come out with set top boxes that are like
the
>>>Apple TV box. MS/Sony's will be round instead of square, but what color?
>>>Gloss white like the apple products! It's the same thing. Hey, may be
>>>MS's branded products will be shit brown like the LG products. LOL!
>>>
>>>I mention new products to give people here a heads up here. I have mention
>>>all kinds of products including PC only products. It's the Mac bashing!
>>>You can't mention any thing Mac or Apple without some bashing here. It's
>>>always the same guys. You have stated in the past that Mac OSX crashes.
>>>That the guys you work with have told you and you've see it. I've been
>>>using Mac OSX every day for over five years now with out a crash. I think
>>>the other Mac guys here would tell you pretty much the same thing. I
don't
>>>know why they would have so much problems, but OSX is for the most part
>>
>> problem
>>
>>>free for most users. To state other wise is not correct generally speaking,
>>>and sounds like typical mac bashing.
>>>
>>>I've never had a virus on a Mac and I've been using them everyday since
>>
>> 1994!
>>
>>>I would say, most of the guys here that use PCs for audio, don't use the
>>>same machine for the internet, to a Mac user that's crazy and laughable.
>>>A lot of people say that a Mac cost twice as much as a PC, yeah, but you
>>>have to have two of them to safely do what a Mac does. So what's it cost???
>>>The logic is funny. Yes you can build a PC cheaper, but look at all the
>>>problems and the hassle. Mac are not perfect, ricks G4 800 is an example
>>>of a lemon, but it's not the norm. If you love Windows and you love to
>>
>> tinker
>>
>>>and build cheap machines, that's cool! Different strokes for different
>>
>> folks.
>>
>>>Just don't bash the Mac or the Mac users.
>>>
>>>My original post about the iPhone was just to say check it out. I was
impressed
>>>with it's design and capabilities. It's slick! Of course the same guys
>>>that bash any thing Apple Posted replys, and it becomes, So what, My thing
>>>can do anything that can. My phone is better because it runs windows.
>>
>> The
>>
>>>old , my thing is bigger and better than your thing, pissing contest.
My
>>>windows PC is better than your Mac. It wasn't a contest post, or a draw
>>>to arms challenge.
>>>
>>>I wasn't trying to tell anybody to go buy one. The reply was, mine is
better
>>>and it doesn't get better because of Windows compatibility and software.
>>>I said check it out, because you don't know until you check it out completely.
>>>it is windows compatible. I stated the features, design and user interface
>>>are superior. It's not a big and bulky as it's competitors. It's a
smaller
>>>sleeker design with a 3.5 LCD. The UI is obviously more advanced, they
>>
>> can
>>
>>>create new user interfaces in software in to the future to add more features
>>>and software. It has better features like rich HTML web pages with zoom
>>>in, web pages look like web pages, landscape viewing, text to voice etc.
>>>It's best to go get an education on it and watch the video before you
rip
>>>on it just because it's an Apple product.
>>>
>>>Yes, the video is a sales pitch! It's also a demo of the products. It's
>>>always a good thing to know what your talking about first hand, especially
>>>when your going to bash something.
>>>
>>>James
>>>
>>>"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hmmm, A "Zealot" calling the kettle black.
>>>>I hope you re-read some of your recent posts in a week or two and discover
>>>
>>>>what we all see.
>>>>--
>>>>Martin Harrington
>>>>www.lendanear-sound.com
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:45a5ca84$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>The Treo 700wx does all those things: With a touch screen to boot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And while the Iphone syncs perfectly with itunes, the Treo 700 wx syncs
>>>>>
>>>>>with
>>>>>
>>>>>>Win Media player (with Play for sure technology) which is wayyy bettter
>>>>>
>>>>>than
>>>>>
>>>>>>itunes..
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm not knocking the Treo or the BB. I think for a windows user they
>>>
>>>are
>>>
>>>>>perfect. Those products have had time to mature, and quite a bit of
>>
>> third
>>
>>>>>party development. The iPhone looks pretty slick out of the gate.
Only
>>>>>time will tell if the iPhone will be a success. I have to say for the
>>>
>>>>>average
>>>>>guy the price is steep IMO, but not for someone with all the needs.
>>>>>Again,
>>>>>it should be noted, the iPhone is PC compatible.
>>>>>
>>>>>Well I'm not sure what you mean about the Plays for sure thing being
>>
>>
>>>>>better
>>>>>than iTunes, but if your in to MS DRM, cool!
>>>>>
>>>>>One thing I'll point out about Windows Media Player, is that they have
>>>
>>>>>copied
>>>>>the itunes interface, Aqua theme/look, even the Itunes logo with the
>>
>> aqua
>>
>>>>>musical note and the CD. It's all hard to not notice MS's blatant rip
>>>
>>>off
>>>
>>>>>of Apple design and innovation, just look at Vista. They been at it
>>
>> for
>>
>>>>>years.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>LaMont wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Jamie, it's Kool-aid to actually believe that Apple has AGAIN (Lol!!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Re-invented
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the phone...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well, it's a phone/media player/PDA/camera (what did I leave out?).
>>
>> The
>>
>>>>>>>"reinvention" really has to do with the finger-touch-screen interface,
>>>>>
>>>>>>>right? So we'll see if it lives up to the hype when it ships.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Man, that guy (Mr Jobs) does not quit with his BS.. Please Mr Jobs
>>>
>>>stop
>>>
>>>>>>with
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the propaganda.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Heh. It's a good thing you're immune to hyped advertising because
we're
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>surrounded by it from all directions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Next week, if Apple comes out with a new version of Logic, they'll
>>>
>>>>>>>>claim
>>>>>>>>to ahve Re-Invented the DAW..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>They can claim whatever they want, as long as the next version is
at
>>>>>>>least as solid as the current version, further streamlined in the
UI,
>>>>>>>and no less capable. :^)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Liking a product from a particular company isn't necessarily a koolaid
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>proposition. Sometimes engineers earn their fans.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>In this case, it looks like Apple's engineers have done something
>>>>>>>>>different from other options, with some unique interactive features
>>>>>
>>>>>and
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>UI implementations that may well be useful to a lot of people.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Just as Palm and Blackberry have engineered products that have earned
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>the loyalty and praise of people who have found they need the features
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>they provide.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>We can speculate before the iPhone ships but I'll withhold my final
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>judgment until it's available to try.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Having said that, my first impression of all three, the iPhone,
the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Treo, the Blackberry, is that they ALL seem too big and clumsy for
>>>
>>>>>>>>>phones.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>So far, all I want from my phone is that it be a phone, and that
>>
>> it
>>
>>>>>be
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>compact and pocketable. My little fliptop LG does the trick. That
>>>
>>>it's
>>>
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>speakerphone is a bonus.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>When I want a computer, I want something with a real screen and
a
>>>>>>>>>keyboard I can really type on, that runs my goto productivity
>>>>>>>>>applications (video, audio, animation, and graphics apps, plus all
>>>
>>>my
>>>
>>>>>>>>>open source office, web and email apps). Which means for those times
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>when I need a computer with me, I take my PowerBook.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>When I need a camera, I want a real camera, currently a Canon digital
>>>>>>
>>>>>>SLR.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>If I can get by with something small that I can type on, I use a
>>
>> Psion
>>
>>>>>>>>>PDA (like a mini-laptop). Also works as a voice recorder. Cool little
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>box but long discontinued.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I'm resisting the all-in-one device. What if it fails? That's a
lot
>>>>>
>>>>>of
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>eggs in one basket. But I can see the appeal of the all-in-one if
>>>
>>>it
>>>
>>>>>>>>>could really cover what I need. None of them quite do that now.
None
>>>>>>
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>But for people who have different needs, each of the clunky phones
>>>
>>>has
>>>
>>>>>>>>>appealing features. And for those people, it's not a matter of
>>>>>>>>>koolaid,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>it's a matter of using what works for them. What covers their needs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Choice is good.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>LaMont wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>James,
>>>>>>>>>>Once again, you are "drinking the Apple Kool-aid" from Mr Jobs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>The Iphone is cool, but not revolutionary. My Treo 700Wx (Windows)
>>>>>
>>>>>is
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>just
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>a s cool and Superior AND is very comaptible with my PC and all
>>
>> MS
>>
>>>>>applications
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>and other Windows apps.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>www.treo.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail,
>>>
>>>you
>>>
>>>>>>might
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>superior.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. It
>>>
>>>like
>>>
>>>>>>>>having
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>a:
>>>>>>>>>>>>MP3player
>>>>>>>>>>>>Ms word,
>>>>>>>>>>>>Excel,
>>>>>>>>>>>>powerpoint,
>>>>>>>>>>>>Outlook 2003,
>>>>>>>>>>>>Media Player 10
>>>>>>>>>>>>Sprint TV
>>>>>>>>>>>>Camera
>>>>>>>>>>>>Recorder
>>>>>>>>>>>>Cool keyboard
>>>>>>>>>>>>Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket..
:)
>>>>>>>>>>>>For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>LaMont
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Some video highlights:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20=news
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>More and better pictures:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is
>>
>> it
>>
>>>>>a
>>>>>
>>>>>>computer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>running Mac OSX???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Live blog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>More to come!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78210 is a reply to message #78208] |
Thu, 11 January 2007 19:52 |
Ted Gerber
Messages: 705
Registered: January 2009
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Senior Member |
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Fair enough.
Expectations play a big role in our response to
disappointments. I guess my expectations have been (are) low.
(Though one platform couldn't meet them and the other has exceeded them).
What's the weather like in Detroit? We're sunny and 47 F here tomorrow.
Sorry my Sister in Law and brother haven't hooked up with you guys
yet. They hit a snag in production and the final vox still are not Tracked...
Peace,
Ted
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>Hi Ted and others,
>
>I think the reason(s) why the mention of Steve Jobs and Keynotes brings
out
>so much venom, as you say, is because of the both the past and even current
>lies and propaganda that spews from his mouth..
>
>Statements like : Re-invent and Faster Personal Computer ever in my opinion
>is just plain wrong. I know too many had working people who believed His
>(Jobs) hype. Only to be sorely disa pointed when they found out that the
>Cpu test were rigged, and their Mac did "crash" on both OS8,9 and even OS-X(all
>versions).
>
>He (Jobs) usually mocks at windows user and Microsoft when he starts his
>keynote.(read: Dumb) When 90 percent of this world are using Windows based
>computers.
>
>So, the venom is actually corrections to the lies Mr Jobs spews. When Mac
>users come and reguritate Mr Jobs lies, most Windows users will not just
>let them get away with such.
>
>I don't see anything wrong with setting the record straight.
>P.S.
>The Mac Pro is currently thee fastest Personal Computer on the market..
:)
>
>
>
>"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote:
>>
>>I have never entered into any computer platform discussion pro or con
>>in this newsgroup. I have my own preferences having worked on both, but
>I'm
>>not pushing my views on anyone else, except over beers at the local pub
>with
>>friends who are ready, willing and able. (As an aside, they are 1. Always
>>vehemont, and 2. Without any actual real world experience on one of the
>>platforms in question).
>>
>>I have to say that I am amazed by the venom that spews whenever someone
>>points to something Mac. It seems irrational to me. As if Steve Jobs personally
>>injured some on this group. Why do we worry so much about things we have
>>no
>>control over? If someone points out a new plug, or a new amp, or instrument,
>>things usually don't get personal. The recent donnybrook over Politics,
>Religion
>>and
>>War is regrettable but not surprising. But somebody pointing to a new product
>>from a computer co and getting sarcasm, disgust, resentment and
>>mockery just makes no sense.
>>
>>Ted
>>
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Well Martin, you can call me a Mac zealot, but it's not exactly true.
>Unlike
>>>you, I use and own both PCs and Macs. I actually use my PCs on a regular
>>>basis. I've used PCs longer than I've used Macs, by about ten years.
>I've
>>>been a licensed and authorized computer dealer. I've bought, sold, and
>>built
>>>many PCs
>>>
>>>I think windows XP is a great improvement over MS's past operating systems.
>>> I wish there was a feature or two in Mac OSX that Windows XP has, but
>that's
>>>where it ends. I prefer Mac OSX to Windows because Windows machines are
>>>a major PITA to deal with.
>>>
>>>There are many other reasons why I don't like MS, one of which is all
the
>>>stuff they have ripped off from Apple. It's funny when people say MS/PC
>>>stuff is great and anything Apple sucks, when MS stole it from Apple.
>Some
>>>recent examples are, Media player, Vista, and Zune. MS just announced
>at
>>>CES, that they are going to come out with set top boxes that are like
the
>>>Apple TV box. MS/Sony's will be round instead of square, but what color?
>>> Gloss white like the apple products! It's the same thing. Hey, may
be
>>>MS's branded products will be shit brown like the LG products. LOL!
>>>
>>>I mention new products to give people here a heads up here. I have mention
>>>all kinds of products including PC only products. It's the Mac bashing!
>>> You can't mention any thing Mac or Apple without some bashing here.
It's
>>>always the same guys. You have stated in the past that Mac OSX crashes.
>>> That the guys you work with have told you and you've see it. I've been
>>>using Mac OSX every day for over five years now with out a crash. I think
>>>the other Mac guys here would tell you pretty much the same thing. I
don't
>>>know why they would have so much problems, but OSX is for the most part
>>problem
>>>free for most users. To state other wise is not correct generally speaking,
>>>and sounds like typical mac bashing.
>>>
>>>I've never had a virus on a Mac and I've been using them everyday since
>>1994!
>>> I would say, most of the guys here that use PCs for audio, don't use
the
>>>same machine for the internet, to a Mac user that's crazy and laughable.
>>> A lot of people say that a Mac cost twice as much as a PC, yeah, but
you
>>>have to have two of them to safely do what a Mac does. So what's it cost???
>>>The logic is funny. Yes you can build a PC cheaper, but look at all the
>>>problems and the hassle. Mac are not perfect, ricks G4 800 is an example
>>>of a lemon, but it's not the norm. If you love Windows and you love to
>>tinker
>>>and build cheap machines, that's cool! Different strokes for different
>>folks.
>>> Just don't bash the Mac or the Mac users.
>>>
>>>My original post about the iPhone was just to say check it out. I was
>impressed
>>>with it's design and capabilities. It's slick! Of course the same guys
>>>that bash any thing Apple Posted replys, and it becomes, So what, My thing
>>>can do anything that can. My phone is better because it runs windows.
>
>>The
>>>old , my thing is bigger and better than your thing, pissing contest.
>My
>>>windows PC is better than your Mac. It wasn't a contest post, or a draw
>>>to arms challenge.
>>>
>>>I wasn't trying to tell anybody to go buy one. The reply was, mine is
>better
>>>and it doesn't get better because of Windows compatibility and software.
>>> I said check it out, because you don't know until you check it out completely.
>>> it is windows compatible. I stated the features, design and user interface
>>>are superior. It's not a big and bulky as it's competitors. It's a
smaller
>>>sleeker design with a 3.5 LCD. The UI is obviously more advanced, they
>>can
>>>create new user interfaces in software in to the future to add more features
>>>and software. It has better features like rich HTML web pages with zoom
>>>in, web pages look like web pages, landscape viewing, text to voice etc.
>>> It's best to go get an education on it and watch the video before you
>rip
>>>on it just because it's an Apple product.
>>>
>>>Yes, the video is a sales pitch! It's also a demo of the products. It's
>>>always a good thing to know what your talking about first hand, especially
>>>when your going to bash something.
>>>
>>>James
>>>
>>>"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>>>Hmmm, A "Zealot" calling the kettle black.
>>>>I hope you re-read some of your recent posts in a week or two and discover
>>>
>>>>what we all see.
>>>>--
>>>>Martin Harrington
>>>>www.lendanear-sound.com
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:45a5ca84$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The Treo 700wx does all those things: With a touch screen to boot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And while the Iphone syncs perfectly with itunes, the Treo 700 wx syncs
>>>>> with
>>>>>>Win Media player (with Play for sure technology) which is wayyy bettter
>>>>> than
>>>>>>itunes..
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not knocking the Treo or the BB. I think for a windows user they
>>>are
>>>>> perfect. Those products have had time to mature, and quite a bit of
>>third
>>>>> party development. The iPhone looks pretty slick out of the gate.
>Only
>>>>> time will tell if the iPhone will be a success. I have to say for
the
>>>
>>>>> average
>>>>> guy the price is steep IMO, but not for someone with all the needs.
>
>>>>> Again,
>>>>> it should be noted, the iPhone is PC compatible.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well I'm not sure what you mean about the Plays for sure thing being
>>
>>>>> better
>>>>> than iTunes, but if your in to MS DRM, cool!
>>>>>
>>>>> One thing I'll point out about Windows Media Player, is that they have
>>>
>>>>> copied
>>>>> the itunes interface, Aqua theme/look, even the Itunes logo with the
>>aqua
>>>>> musical note and the CD. It's all hard to not notice MS's blatant
rip
>>>off
>>>>> of Apple design and innovation, just look at Vista. They been at it
>>for
>>>>> years.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>LaMont wrote:
>>>>>>>> Jamie, it's Kool-aid to actually believe that Apple has AGAIN (Lol!!)
>>>>>>Re-invented
>>>>>>>> the phone...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well, it's a phone/media player/PDA/camera (what did I leave out?).
>>The
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"reinvention" really has to do with the finger-touch-screen interface,
>>>>>
>>>>>>>right? So we'll see if it lives up to the hype when it ships.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Man, that guy (Mr Jobs) does not quit with his BS.. Please Mr Jobs
>>>stop
>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>> the propaganda.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Heh. It's a good thing you're immune to hyped advertising because
we're
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>surrounded by it from all directions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Next week, if Apple comes out with a new version of Logic, they'll
>>>
>>>>>>>> claim
>>>>>>>> to ahve Re-Invented the DAW..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>They can claim whatever they want, as long as the next version is
at
>>>>>>>least as solid as the current version, further streamlined in the
UI,
>>>>>>>and no less capable. :^)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Liking a product from a particular company isn't necessarily a
koolaid
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> proposition. Sometimes engineers earn their fans.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In this case, it looks like Apple's engineers have done something
>>>>>>>>> different from other options, with some unique interactive features
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> UI implementations that may well be useful to a lot of people.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just as Palm and Blackberry have engineered products that have
earned
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the loyalty and praise of people who have found they need the features
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> they provide.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We can speculate before the iPhone ships but I'll withhold my final
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> judgment until it's available to try.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Having said that, my first impression of all three, the iPhone,
>the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Treo, the Blackberry, is that they ALL seem too big and clumsy
for
>>>
>>>>>>>>> phones.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So far, all I want from my phone is that it be a phone, and that
>>it
>>>>> be
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> compact and pocketable. My little fliptop LG does the trick. That
>>>it's
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> speakerphone is a bonus.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When I want a computer, I want something with a real screen and
>a
>>>>>>>>> keyboard I can really type on, that runs my goto productivity
>>>>>>>>> applications (video, audio, animation, and graphics apps, plus
all
>>>my
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> open source office, web and email apps). Which means for those
times
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> when I need a computer with me, I take my PowerBook.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When I need a camera, I want a real camera, currently a Canon digital
>>>>>>SLR.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If I can get by with something small that I can type on, I use
a
>>Psion
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> PDA (like a mini-laptop). Also works as a voice recorder. Cool
little
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> box but long discontinued.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm resisting the all-in-one device. What if it fails? That's a
>lot
>>>>> of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> eggs in one basket. But I can see the appeal of the all-in-one
if
>>>it
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> could really cover what I need. None of them quite do that now.
>None
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But for people who have different needs, each of the clunky phones
>>>has
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> appealing features. And for those people, it's not a matter of
>>>>>>>>> koolaid,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> it's a matter of using what works for them. What covers their needs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Choice is good.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LaMont wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> James,
>>>>>>>>>> Once again, you are "drinking the Apple Kool-aid" from Mr Jobs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The Iphone is cool, but not revolutionary. My Treo 700Wx (Windows)
>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>> a s cool and Superior AND is very comaptible with my PC and all
>>MS
>>>>> applications
>>>>>>>>>> and other Windows apps.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> www.treo.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail,
>>>you
>>>>>>might
>>>>>>>>>>> want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> superior.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx..
It
>>>like
>>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>>>>> a:
>>>>>>>>>>>> MP3player
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ms word,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Excel,
>>>>>>>>>>>> powerpoint,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Outlook 2003,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Media Player 10
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sprint TV
>>>>>>>>>>>> Camera
>>>>>>>>>>>> Recorder
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cool keyboard
>>>>>>>>>>>> Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket..
>:)
>>>>>>>>>>>> For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> LaMont
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some video highlights:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20=news
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> More and better pictures:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is
>>it
>>>>> a
>>>>>>computer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running Mac OSX???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Live blog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More to come!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78211 is a reply to message #78209] |
Thu, 11 January 2007 19:53 |
Ted Gerber
Messages: 705
Registered: January 2009
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Senior Member |
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But my daughter's at MAC in Hamilton : )
>EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>You sound like a MAC guy... ;-)
>>
>>David.
>>hehehe
>>
>>Ted Gerber wrote:
>>
>>> I have never entered into any computer platform discussion pro or con
>>> in this newsgroup. I have my own preferences having worked on both, but
>I'm
>>> not pushing my views on anyone else, except over beers at the local pub
>with
>>> friends who are ready, willing and able. (As an aside, they are 1. Always
>>> vehemont, and 2. Without any actual real world experience on one of the
>>> platforms in question).
>>>
>>> I have to say that I am amazed by the venom that spews whenever someone
>>> points to something Mac. It seems irrational to me. As if Steve Jobs
personally
>>> injured some on this group. Why do we worry so much about things we have
>>> no
>>> control over? If someone points out a new plug, or a new amp, or instrument,
>>> things usually don't get personal. The recent donnybrook over Politics,
>Religion
>>> and
>>> War is regrettable but not surprising. But somebody pointing to a new
>product
>>> from a computer co and getting sarcasm, disgust, resentment and
>>> mockery just makes no sense.
>>>
>>> Ted
>>>
>>>
>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Well Martin, you can call me a Mac zealot, but it's not exactly true.
> Unlike
>>>>you, I use and own both PCs and Macs. I actually use my PCs on a regular
>>>>basis. I've used PCs longer than I've used Macs, by about ten years.
> I've
>>>>been a licensed and authorized computer dealer. I've bought, sold, and
>>>
>>> built
>>>
>>>>many PCs
>>>>
>>>>I think windows XP is a great improvement over MS's past operating systems.
>>>>I wish there was a feature or two in Mac OSX that Windows XP has, but
>that's
>>>>where it ends. I prefer Mac OSX to Windows because Windows machines
are
>>>>a major PITA to deal with.
>>>>
>>>>There are many other reasons why I don't like MS, one of which is all
>the
>>>>stuff they have ripped off from Apple. It's funny when people say MS/PC
>>>>stuff is great and anything Apple sucks, when MS stole it from Apple.
> Some
>>>>recent examples are, Media player, Vista, and Zune. MS just announced
>at
>>>>CES, that they are going to come out with set top boxes that are like
>the
>>>>Apple TV box. MS/Sony's will be round instead of square, but what color?
>>>>Gloss white like the apple products! It's the same thing. Hey, may
be
>>>>MS's branded products will be shit brown like the LG products. LOL!
>>>>
>>>>I mention new products to give people here a heads up here. I have mention
>>>>all kinds of products including PC only products. It's the Mac bashing!
>>>>You can't mention any thing Mac or Apple without some bashing here.
It's
>>>>always the same guys. You have stated in the past that Mac OSX crashes.
>>>>That the guys you work with have told you and you've see it. I've been
>>>>using Mac OSX every day for over five years now with out a crash. I
think
>>>>the other Mac guys here would tell you pretty much the same thing. I
>don't
>>>>know why they would have so much problems, but OSX is for the most part
>>>
>>> problem
>>>
>>>>free for most users. To state other wise is not correct generally speaking,
>>>>and sounds like typical mac bashing.
>>>>
>>>>I've never had a virus on a Mac and I've been using them everyday since
>>>
>>> 1994!
>>>
>>>>I would say, most of the guys here that use PCs for audio, don't use
the
>>>>same machine for the internet, to a Mac user that's crazy and laughable.
>>>>A lot of people say that a Mac cost twice as much as a PC, yeah, but
you
>>>>have to have two of them to safely do what a Mac does. So what's it
cost???
>>>>The logic is funny. Yes you can build a PC cheaper, but look at all
the
>>>>problems and the hassle. Mac are not perfect, ricks G4 800 is an example
>>>>of a lemon, but it's not the norm. If you love Windows and you love
to
>>>
>>> tinker
>>>
>>>>and build cheap machines, that's cool! Different strokes for different
>>>
>>> folks.
>>>
>>>>Just don't bash the Mac or the Mac users.
>>>>
>>>>My original post about the iPhone was just to say check it out. I was
>impressed
>>>>with it's design and capabilities. It's slick! Of course the same guys
>>>>that bash any thing Apple Posted replys, and it becomes, So what, My
thing
>>>>can do anything that can. My phone is better because it runs windows.
>
>>>
>>> The
>>>
>>>>old , my thing is bigger and better than your thing, pissing contest.
> My
>>>>windows PC is better than your Mac. It wasn't a contest post, or a draw
>>>>to arms challenge.
>>>>
>>>>I wasn't trying to tell anybody to go buy one. The reply was, mine is
>better
>>>>and it doesn't get better because of Windows compatibility and software.
>>>>I said check it out, because you don't know until you check it out completely.
>>>>it is windows compatible. I stated the features, design and user interface
>>>>are superior. It's not a big and bulky as it's competitors. It's a
>smaller
>>>>sleeker design with a 3.5 LCD. The UI is obviously more advanced, they
>>>
>>> can
>>>
>>>>create new user interfaces in software in to the future to add more features
>>>>and software. It has better features like rich HTML web pages with zoom
>>>>in, web pages look like web pages, landscape viewing, text to voice etc.
>>>>It's best to go get an education on it and watch the video before you
>rip
>>>>on it just because it's an Apple product.
>>>>
>>>>Yes, the video is a sales pitch! It's also a demo of the products.
It's
>>>>always a good thing to know what your talking about first hand, especially
>>>>when your going to bash something.
>>>>
>>>>James
>>>>
>>>>"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hmmm, A "Zealot" calling the kettle black.
>>>>>I hope you re-read some of your recent posts in a week or two and discover
>>>>
>>>>>what we all see.
>>>>>--
>>>>>Martin Harrington
>>>>>www.lendanear-sound.com
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:45a5ca84$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The Treo 700wx does all those things: With a touch screen to boot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And while the Iphone syncs perfectly with itunes, the Treo 700 wx
syncs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>with
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Win Media player (with Play for sure technology) which is wayyy bettter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>than
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>itunes..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm not knocking the Treo or the BB. I think for a windows user they
>>>>
>>>>are
>>>>
>>>>>>perfect. Those products have had time to mature, and quite a bit of
>>>
>>> third
>>>
>>>>>>party development. The iPhone looks pretty slick out of the gate.
>Only
>>>>>>time will tell if the iPhone will be a success. I have to say for
the
>>>>
>>>>>>average
>>>>>>guy the price is steep IMO, but not for someone with all the needs.
>
>>>>>>Again,
>>>>>>it should be noted, the iPhone is PC compatible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well I'm not sure what you mean about the Plays for sure thing being
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>better
>>>>>>than iTunes, but if your in to MS DRM, cool!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>One thing I'll point out about Windows Media Player, is that they have
>>>>
>>>>>>copied
>>>>>>the itunes interface, Aqua theme/look, even the Itunes logo with the
>>>
>>> aqua
>>>
>>>>>>musical note and the CD. It's all hard to not notice MS's blatant
rip
>>>>
>>>>off
>>>>
>>>>>>of Apple design and innovation, just look at Vista. They been at it
>>>
>>> for
>>>
>>>>>>years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>LaMont wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Jamie, it's Kool-aid to actually believe that Apple has AGAIN (Lol!!)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Re-invented
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>the phone...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Well, it's a phone/media player/PDA/camera (what did I leave out?).
>>>
>>> The
>>>
>>>>>>>>"reinvention" really has to do with the finger-touch-screen interface,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>right? So we'll see if it lives up to the hype when it ships.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Man, that guy (Mr Jobs) does not quit with his BS.. Please Mr Jobs
>>>>
>>>>stop
>>>>
>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>the propaganda.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Heh. It's a good thing you're immune to hyped advertising because
>we're
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>surrounded by it from all directions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Next week, if Apple comes out with a new version of Logic, they'll
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>claim
>>>>>>>>>to ahve Re-Invented the DAW..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>They can claim whatever they want, as long as the next version is
>at
>>>>>>>>least as solid as the current version, further streamlined in the
>UI,
>>>>>>>>and no less capable. :^)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Liking a product from a particular company isn't necessarily a
koolaid
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>proposition. Sometimes engineers earn their fans.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>In this case, it looks like Apple's engineers have done something
>>>>>>>>>>different from other options, with some unique interactive features
>>>>>>
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>UI implementations that may well be useful to a lot of people.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Just as Palm and Blackberry have engineered products that have
earned
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>the loyalty and praise of people who have found they need the features
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>they provide.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>We can speculate before the iPhone ships but I'll withhold my final
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>judgment until it's available to try.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Having said that, my first impression of all three, the iPhone,
>the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Treo, the Blackberry, is that they ALL seem too big and clumsy
for
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>phones.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>So far, all I want from my phone is that it be a phone, and that
>>>
>>> it
>>>
>>>>>>be
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>compact and pocketable. My little fliptop LG does the trick. That
>>>>
>>>>it's
>>>>
>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>speakerphone is a bonus.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>When I want a computer, I want something with a real screen and
>a
>>>>>>>>>>keyboard I can really type on, that runs my goto productivity
>>>>>>>>>>applications (video, audio, animation, and graphics apps, plus
all
>>>>
>>>>my
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>open source office, web and email apps). Which means for those
times
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>when I need a computer with me, I take my PowerBook.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>When I need a camera, I want a real camera, currently a Canon digital
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>SLR.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>If I can get by with something small that I can type on, I use
a
>>>
>>> Psion
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>PDA (like a mini-laptop). Also works as a voice recorder. Cool
little
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>box but long discontinued.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I'm resisting the all-in-one device. What if it fails? That's a
>lot
>>>>>>
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>eggs in one basket. But I can see the appeal of the all-in-one
if
>>>>
>>>>it
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>could really cover what I need. None of them quite do that now.
>None
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>them.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>But for people who have different needs, each of the clunky phones
>>>>
>>>>has
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>appealing features. And for those people, it's not a matter of
>>>>>>>>>>koolaid,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>it's a matter of using what works for them. What covers their needs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Choice is good.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>LaMont wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>James,
>>>>>>>>>>>Once again, you are "drinking the Apple Kool-aid" from Mr Jobs.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>The Iphone is cool, but not revolutionary. My Treo 700Wx (Windows)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>just
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>a s cool and Superior AND is very comaptible with my PC and all
>>>
>>> MS
>>>
>>>>>>applications
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>and other Windows apps.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>www.treo.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail,
>>>>
>>>>you
>>>>
>>>>>>>might
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>superior.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx..
It
>>>>
>>>>like
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>having
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>a:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>MP3player
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ms word,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Excel,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>powerpoint,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Outlook 2003,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Media Player 10
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sprint TV
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Camera
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Recorder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cool keyboard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket..
>:)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>LaMont
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Some video highlights:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20=news
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>More and better pictures:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is
>>>
>>> it
>>>
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>computer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>running Mac OSX???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Live blog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>More to come!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78216 is a reply to message #78210] |
Thu, 11 January 2007 22:20 |
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Hey Ted, the weather has been great!! here in Motown.. Tommorow high 48 degrees..
Thanks for keeping me posted on the project.. Take care..
"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>Fair enough.
>
>Expectations play a big role in our response to
>disappointments. I guess my expectations have been (are) low.
>(Though one platform couldn't meet them and the other has exceeded them).
>
>What's the weather like in Detroit? We're sunny and 47 F here tomorrow.
>Sorry my Sister in Law and brother haven't hooked up with you guys
>yet. They hit a snag in production and the final vox still are not Tracked...
>
>Peace,
>
>Ted
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Ted and others,
>>
>>I think the reason(s) why the mention of Steve Jobs and Keynotes brings
>out
>>so much venom, as you say, is because of the both the past and even current
>>lies and propaganda that spews from his mouth..
>>
>>Statements like : Re-invent and Faster Personal Computer ever in my opinion
>>is just plain wrong. I know too many had working people who believed His
>>(Jobs) hype. Only to be sorely disa pointed when they found out that the
>>Cpu test were rigged, and their Mac did "crash" on both OS8,9 and even
OS-X(all
>>versions).
>>
>>He (Jobs) usually mocks at windows user and Microsoft when he starts his
>>keynote.(read: Dumb) When 90 percent of this world are using Windows based
>>computers.
>>
>>So, the venom is actually corrections to the lies Mr Jobs spews. When Mac
>>users come and reguritate Mr Jobs lies, most Windows users will not just
>>let them get away with such.
>>
>>I don't see anything wrong with setting the record straight.
>>P.S.
>>The Mac Pro is currently thee fastest Personal Computer on the market..
>:)
>>
>>
>>
>>"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I have never entered into any computer platform discussion pro or con
>>>in this newsgroup. I have my own preferences having worked on both, but
>>I'm
>>>not pushing my views on anyone else, except over beers at the local pub
>>with
>>>friends who are ready, willing and able. (As an aside, they are 1. Always
>>>vehemont, and 2. Without any actual real world experience on one of the
>>>platforms in question).
>>>
>>>I have to say that I am amazed by the venom that spews whenever someone
>>>points to something Mac. It seems irrational to me. As if Steve Jobs personally
>>>injured some on this group. Why do we worry so much about things we have
>>>no
>>>control over? If someone points out a new plug, or a new amp, or instrument,
>>>things usually don't get personal. The recent donnybrook over Politics,
>>Religion
>>>and
>>>War is regrettable but not surprising. But somebody pointing to a new
product
>>>from a computer co and getting sarcasm, disgust, resentment and
>>>mockery just makes no sense.
>>>
>>>Ted
>>>
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Well Martin, you can call me a Mac zealot, but it's not exactly true.
>
>>Unlike
>>>>you, I use and own both PCs and Macs. I actually use my PCs on a regular
>>>>basis. I've used PCs longer than I've used Macs, by about ten years.
>
>>I've
>>>>been a licensed and authorized computer dealer. I've bought, sold, and
>>>built
>>>>many PCs
>>>>
>>>>I think windows XP is a great improvement over MS's past operating systems.
>>>> I wish there was a feature or two in Mac OSX that Windows XP has, but
>>that's
>>>>where it ends. I prefer Mac OSX to Windows because Windows machines
are
>>>>a major PITA to deal with.
>>>>
>>>>There are many other reasons why I don't like MS, one of which is all
>the
>>>>stuff they have ripped off from Apple. It's funny when people say MS/PC
>>>>stuff is great and anything Apple sucks, when MS stole it from Apple.
>
>>Some
>>>>recent examples are, Media player, Vista, and Zune. MS just announced
>>at
>>>>CES, that they are going to come out with set top boxes that are like
>the
>>>>Apple TV box. MS/Sony's will be round instead of square, but what color?
>>>> Gloss white like the apple products! It's the same thing. Hey, may
>be
>>>>MS's branded products will be shit brown like the LG products. LOL!
>>>>
>>>>I mention new products to give people here a heads up here. I have mention
>>>>all kinds of products including PC only products. It's the Mac bashing!
>>>> You can't mention any thing Mac or Apple without some bashing here.
>It's
>>>>always the same guys. You have stated in the past that Mac OSX crashes.
>>>> That the guys you work with have told you and you've see it. I've been
>>>>using Mac OSX every day for over five years now with out a crash. I
think
>>>>the other Mac guys here would tell you pretty much the same thing. I
>don't
>>>>know why they would have so much problems, but OSX is for the most part
>>>problem
>>>>free for most users. To state other wise is not correct generally speaking,
>>>>and sounds like typical mac bashing.
>>>>
>>>>I've never had a virus on a Mac and I've been using them everyday since
>>>1994!
>>>> I would say, most of the guys here that use PCs for audio, don't use
>the
>>>>same machine for the internet, to a Mac user that's crazy and laughable.
>>>> A lot of people say that a Mac cost twice as much as a PC, yeah, but
>you
>>>>have to have two of them to safely do what a Mac does. So what's it
cost???
>>>>The logic is funny. Yes you can build a PC cheaper, but look at all
the
>>>>problems and the hassle. Mac are not perfect, ricks G4 800 is an example
>>>>of a lemon, but it's not the norm. If you love Windows and you love
to
>>>tinker
>>>>and build cheap machines, that's cool! Different strokes for different
>>>folks.
>>>> Just don't bash the Mac or the Mac users.
>>>>
>>>>My original post about the iPhone was just to say check it out. I was
>>impressed
>>>>with it's design and capabilities. It's slick! Of course the same guys
>>>>that bash any thing Apple Posted replys, and it becomes, So what, My
thing
>>>>can do anything that can. My phone is better because it runs windows.
>>
>>>The
>>>>old , my thing is bigger and better than your thing, pissing contest.
>
>>My
>>>>windows PC is better than your Mac. It wasn't a contest post, or a draw
>>>>to arms challenge.
>>>>
>>>>I wasn't trying to tell anybody to go buy one. The reply was, mine is
>>better
>>>>and it doesn't get better because of Windows compatibility and software.
>>>> I said check it out, because you don't know until you check it out completely.
>>>> it is windows compatible. I stated the features, design and user interface
>>>>are superior. It's not a big and bulky as it's competitors. It's a
>smaller
>>>>sleeker design with a 3.5 LCD. The UI is obviously more advanced, they
>>>can
>>>>create new user interfaces in software in to the future to add more features
>>>>and software. It has better features like rich HTML web pages with zoom
>>>>in, web pages look like web pages, landscape viewing, text to voice etc.
>>>> It's best to go get an education on it and watch the video before you
>>rip
>>>>on it just because it's an Apple product.
>>>>
>>>>Yes, the video is a sales pitch! It's also a demo of the products.
It's
>>>>always a good thing to know what your talking about first hand, especially
>>>>when your going to bash something.
>>>>
>>>>James
>>>>
>>>>"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>>>>Hmmm, A "Zealot" calling the kettle black.
>>>>>I hope you re-read some of your recent posts in a week or two and discover
>>>>
>>>>>what we all see.
>>>>>--
>>>>>Martin Harrington
>>>>>www.lendanear-sound.com
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:45a5ca84$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The Treo 700wx does all those things: With a touch screen to boot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And while the Iphone syncs perfectly with itunes, the Treo 700 wx
syncs
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>Win Media player (with Play for sure technology) which is wayyy bettter
>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>itunes..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not knocking the Treo or the BB. I think for a windows user they
>>>>are
>>>>>> perfect. Those products have had time to mature, and quite a bit
of
>>>third
>>>>>> party development. The iPhone looks pretty slick out of the gate.
>
>>Only
>>>>>> time will tell if the iPhone will be a success. I have to say for
>the
>>>>
>>>>>> average
>>>>>> guy the price is steep IMO, but not for someone with all the needs.
>>
>>>>>> Again,
>>>>>> it should be noted, the iPhone is PC compatible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well I'm not sure what you mean about the Plays for sure thing being
>>>
>>>>>> better
>>>>>> than iTunes, but if your in to MS DRM, cool!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One thing I'll point out about Windows Media Player, is that they
have
>>>>
>>>>>> copied
>>>>>> the itunes interface, Aqua theme/look, even the Itunes logo with the
>>>aqua
>>>>>> musical note and the CD. It's all hard to not notice MS's blatant
>rip
>>>>off
>>>>>> of Apple design and innovation, just look at Vista. They been at
it
>>>for
>>>>>> years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>LaMont wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Jamie, it's Kool-aid to actually believe that Apple has AGAIN (Lol!!)
>>>>>>>Re-invented
>>>>>>>>> the phone...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Well, it's a phone/media player/PDA/camera (what did I leave out?).
>>>The
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"reinvention" really has to do with the finger-touch-screen interface,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>right? So we'll see if it lives up to the hype when it ships.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Man, that guy (Mr Jobs) does not quit with his BS.. Please Mr Jobs
>>>>stop
>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>> the propaganda.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Heh. It's a good thing you're immune to hyped advertising because
>we're
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>surrounded by it from all directions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Next week, if Apple comes out with a new version of Logic, they'll
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> claim
>>>>>>>>> to ahve Re-Invented the DAW..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>They can claim whatever they want, as long as the next version is
>at
>>>>>>>>least as solid as the current version, further streamlined in the
>UI,
>>>>>>>>and no less capable. :^)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Liking a product from a particular company isn't necessarily a
>koolaid
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> proposition. Sometimes engineers earn their fans.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In this case, it looks like Apple's engineers have done something
>>>>>>>>>> different from other options, with some unique interactive features
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> UI implementations that may well be useful to a lot of people.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just as Palm and Blackberry have engineered products that have
>earned
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the loyalty and praise of people who have found they need the
features
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> they provide.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We can speculate before the iPhone ships but I'll withhold my
final
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> judgment until it's available to try.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Having said that, my first impression of all three, the iPhone,
>>the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Treo, the Blackberry, is that they ALL seem too big and clumsy
>for
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> phones.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So far, all I want from my phone is that it be a phone, and that
>>>it
>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> compact and pocketable. My little fliptop LG does the trick. That
>>>>it's
>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> speakerphone is a bonus.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When I want a computer, I want something with a real screen and
>>a
>>>>>>>>>> keyboard I can really type on, that runs my goto productivity
>>>>>>>>>> applications (video, audio, animation, and graphics apps, plus
>all
>>>>my
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> open source office, web and email apps). Which means for those
>times
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> when I need a computer with me, I take my PowerBook.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When I need a camera, I want a real camera, currently a Canon
digital
>>>>>>>SLR.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If I can get by with something small that I can type on, I use
>a
>>>Psion
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> PDA (like a mini-laptop). Also works as a voice recorder. Cool
>little
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> box but long discontinued.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm resisting the all-in-one device. What if it fails? That's
a
>>lot
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> eggs in one basket. But I can see the appeal of the all-in-one
>if
>>>>it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> could really cover what I need. None of them quite do that now.
>>None
>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But for people who have different needs, each of the clunky phones
>>>>has
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> appealing features. And for those people, it's not a matter of
>
>>>>>>>>>> koolaid,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> it's a matter of using what works for them. What covers their
needs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Choice is good.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LaMont wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> James,
>>>>>>>>>>> Once again, you are "drinking the Apple Kool-aid" from Mr Jobs.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The Iphone is cool, but not revolutionary. My Treo 700Wx (Windows)
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>> a s cool and Superior AND is very comaptible with my PC and all
>>>MS
>>>>>> applications
>>>>>>>>>>> and other Windows apps.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> www.treo.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail,
>>>>you
>>>>>>>might
>>>>>>>>>>>> want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> superior.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx..
>It
>>>>like
>>>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MP3player
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ms word,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Excel,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> powerpoint,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Outlook 2003,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Media Player 10
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sprint TV
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Camera
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Recorder
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cool keyboard
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket..
>>:)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LaMont
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some video highlights:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20=news
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More and better pictures:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod?
Is
>>>it
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>computer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running Mac OSX???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Live blog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More to come!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78219 is a reply to message #78198] |
Thu, 11 January 2007 23:44 |
Martin Harrington
Messages: 560
Registered: September 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
|
You say that I said Macs crash..well.they do...and it happened today.
We were setting up a tech run for a new 10 week series I'm starting to
shoot, (record location audio), and set up a new Macbook loaded with Pro
Tools V7.0, (OSX 10.4), I think.
Every time we went to open PT, it crashed requiring a reboot...who knows
why...probably version conflicts...dunno.
I use Macs on a fairly regular basis, and if you could see my PC desktop,
you would see Rocket Dock displayed prominently at the bottom ala
Mac....(btw, I do own a Mac, just don't use it very often.)
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45a6b2f0$1@linux...
>
> Well Martin, you can call me a Mac zealot, but it's not exactly true.
> Unlike
> you, I use and own both PCs and Macs. I actually use my PCs on a regular
> basis. I've used PCs longer than I've used Macs, by about ten years.
> I've
> been a licensed and authorized computer dealer. I've bought, sold, and
> built
> many PCs
>
> I think windows XP is a great improvement over MS's past operating
> systems.
> I wish there was a feature or two in Mac OSX that Windows XP has, but
> that's
> where it ends. I prefer Mac OSX to Windows because Windows machines are
> a major PITA to deal with.
>
> There are many other reasons why I don't like MS, one of which is all the
> stuff they have ripped off from Apple. It's funny when people say MS/PC
> stuff is great and anything Apple sucks, when MS stole it from Apple.
> Some
> recent examples are, Media player, Vista, and Zune. MS just announced at
> CES, that they are going to come out with set top boxes that are like the
> Apple TV box. MS/Sony's will be round instead of square, but what color?
> Gloss white like the apple products! It's the same thing. Hey, may be
> MS's branded products will be shit brown like the LG products. LOL!
>
> I mention new products to give people here a heads up here. I have
> mention
> all kinds of products including PC only products. It's the Mac bashing!
> You can't mention any thing Mac or Apple without some bashing here. It's
> always the same guys. You have stated in the past that Mac OSX crashes.
> That the guys you work with have told you and you've see it. I've been
> using Mac OSX every day for over five years now with out a crash. I think
> the other Mac guys here would tell you pretty much the same thing. I
> don't
> know why they would have so much problems, but OSX is for the most part
> problem
> free for most users. To state other wise is not correct generally
> speaking,
> and sounds like typical mac bashing.
>
> I've never had a virus on a Mac and I've been using them everyday since
> 1994!
> I would say, most of the guys here that use PCs for audio, don't use the
> same machine for the internet, to a Mac user that's crazy and laughable.
> A lot of people say that a Mac cost twice as much as a PC, yeah, but you
> have to have two of them to safely do what a Mac does. So what's it
> cost???
> The logic is funny. Yes you can build a PC cheaper, but look at all the
> problems and the hassle. Mac are not perfect, ricks G4 800 is an example
> of a lemon, but it's not the norm. If you love Windows and you love to
> tinker
> and build cheap machines, that's cool! Different strokes for different
> folks.
> Just don't bash the Mac or the Mac users.
>
> My original post about the iPhone was just to say check it out. I was
> impressed
> with it's design and capabilities. It's slick! Of course the same guys
> that bash any thing Apple Posted replys, and it becomes, So what, My thing
> can do anything that can. My phone is better because it runs windows.
> The
> old , my thing is bigger and better than your thing, pissing contest. My
> windows PC is better than your Mac. It wasn't a contest post, or a draw
> to arms challenge.
>
> I wasn't trying to tell anybody to go buy one. The reply was, mine is
> better
> and it doesn't get better because of Windows compatibility and software.
> I said check it out, because you don't know until you check it out
> completely.
> it is windows compatible. I stated the features, design and user interface
> are superior. It's not a big and bulky as it's competitors. It's a
> smaller
> sleeker design with a 3.5 LCD. The UI is obviously more advanced, they
> can
> create new user interfaces in software in to the future to add more
> features
> and software. It has better features like rich HTML web pages with zoom
> in, web pages look like web pages, landscape viewing, text to voice etc.
> It's best to go get an education on it and watch the video before you rip
> on it just because it's an Apple product.
>
> Yes, the video is a sales pitch! It's also a demo of the products. It's
> always a good thing to know what your talking about first hand, especially
> when your going to bash something.
>
> James
>
> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>Hmmm, A "Zealot" calling the kettle black.
>>I hope you re-read some of your recent posts in a week or two and discover
>
>>what we all see.
>>--
>>Martin Harrington
>>www.lendanear-sound.com
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:45a5ca84$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>The Treo 700wx does all those things: With a touch screen to boot.
>>>>
>>>>And while the Iphone syncs perfectly with itunes, the Treo 700 wx syncs
>>> with
>>>>Win Media player (with Play for sure technology) which is wayyy bettter
>>> than
>>>>itunes..
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not knocking the Treo or the BB. I think for a windows user they
> are
>>> perfect. Those products have had time to mature, and quite a bit of
>>> third
>>> party development. The iPhone looks pretty slick out of the gate. Only
>>> time will tell if the iPhone will be a success. I have to say for the
>
>>> average
>>> guy the price is steep IMO, but not for someone with all the needs.
>>> Again,
>>> it should be noted, the iPhone is PC compatible.
>>>
>>> Well I'm not sure what you mean about the Plays for sure thing being
>>> better
>>> than iTunes, but if your in to MS DRM, cool!
>>>
>>> One thing I'll point out about Windows Media Player, is that they have
>
>>> copied
>>> the itunes interface, Aqua theme/look, even the Itunes logo with the
>>> aqua
>>> musical note and the CD. It's all hard to not notice MS's blatant rip
> off
>>> of Apple design and innovation, just look at Vista. They been at it for
>>> years.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>LaMont wrote:
>>>>>> Jamie, it's Kool-aid to actually believe that Apple has AGAIN (Lol!!)
>>>>Re-invented
>>>>>> the phone...
>>>>>
>>>>>Well, it's a phone/media player/PDA/camera (what did I leave out?). The
>>>>
>>>>>"reinvention" really has to do with the finger-touch-screen interface,
>>>
>>>>>right? So we'll see if it lives up to the hype when it ships.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Man, that guy (Mr Jobs) does not quit with his BS.. Please Mr Jobs
> stop
>>>>with
>>>>>> the propaganda.
>>>>>
>>>>>Heh. It's a good thing you're immune to hyped advertising because we're
>>>>
>>>>>surrounded by it from all directions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Next week, if Apple comes out with a new version of Logic, they'll
>
>>>>>> claim
>>>>>> to ahve Re-Invented the DAW..
>>>>>
>>>>>They can claim whatever they want, as long as the next version is at
>>>>>least as solid as the current version, further streamlined in the UI,
>>>>>and no less capable. :^)
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Liking a product from a particular company isn't necessarily a
>>>>>>> koolaid
>>>>
>>>>>>> proposition. Sometimes engineers earn their fans.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In this case, it looks like Apple's engineers have done something
>>>>>>> different from other options, with some unique interactive features
>>> and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> UI implementations that may well be useful to a lot of people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just as Palm and Blackberry have engineered products that have
>>>>>>> earned
>>>>
>>>>>>> the loyalty and praise of people who have found they need the
>>>>>>> features
>>>>
>>>>>>> they provide.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We can speculate before the iPhone ships but I'll withhold my final
>>>
>>>>>>> judgment until it's available to try.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Having said that, my first impression of all three, the iPhone, the
>>>
>>>>>>> Treo, the Blackberry, is that they ALL seem too big and clumsy for
>
>>>>>>> phones.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So far, all I want from my phone is that it be a phone, and that it
>>> be
>>>>
>>>>>>> compact and pocketable. My little fliptop LG does the trick. That
> it's
>>>>a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> speakerphone is a bonus.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I want a computer, I want something with a real screen and a
>>>>>>> keyboard I can really type on, that runs my goto productivity
>>>>>>> applications (video, audio, animation, and graphics apps, plus all
> my
>>>>
>>>>>>> open source office, web and email apps). Which means for those times
>>>>
>>>>>>> when I need a computer with me, I take my PowerBook.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I need a camera, I want a real camera, currently a Canon
>>>>>>> digital
>>>>SLR.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I can get by with something small that I can type on, I use a
>>>>>>> Psion
>>>>
>>>>>>> PDA (like a mini-laptop). Also works as a voice recorder. Cool
>>>>>>> little
>>>>
>>>>>>> box but long discontinued.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm resisting the all-in-one device. What if it fails? That's a lot
>>> of
>>>>
>>>>>>> eggs in one basket. But I can see the appeal of the all-in-one if
> it
>>>>
>>>>>>> could really cover what I need. None of them quite do that now. None
>>>>of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But for people who have different needs, each of the clunky phones
> has
>>>>
>>>>>>> appealing features. And for those people, it's not a matter of
>>>>>>> koolaid,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it's a matter of using what works for them. What covers their needs.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Choice is good.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LaMont wrote:
>>>>>>>> James,
>>>>>>>> Once again, you are "drinking the Apple Kool-aid" from Mr Jobs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Iphone is cool, but not revolutionary. My Treo 700Wx (Windows)
>>> is
>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> a s cool and Superior AND is very comaptible with my PC and all MS
>>> applications
>>>>>>>> and other Windows apps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> www.treo.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Here the Keynote video demo that explains the iPhone in detail,
> you
>>>>might
>>>>>>>>> want to watch it. The features, design and user interface are
>>>>>>>>> superior.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Very cool..But, I'm still gleaming over my new Treo 700wx.. It
> like
>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>>> a:
>>>>>>>>>> MP3player
>>>>>>>>>> Ms word,
>>>>>>>>>> Excel,
>>>>>>>>>> powerpoint,
>>>>>>>>>> Outlook 2003,
>>>>>>>>>> Media Player 10
>>>>>>>>>> Sprint TV
>>>>>>>>>> Camera
>>>>>>>>>> Recorder
>>>>>>>>>> Cool keyboard
>>>>>>>>>> Very fast Internet connection speeds..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This thing is IS like carring around a laptop in my pocket.. :)
>>>>>>>>>> For Pc user(Windows) is does not get any better than this..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LaMont
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Some video highlights:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6148642.html?part=rss&tag=2 547-1_3-0-20&subj=news
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> More and better pictures:
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it a phone Is it a PDA? is it a movie playing iPod? Is it
>>> a
>>>>computer
>>>>>>>>>>>> running Mac OSX???
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Meet the Beatles!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Live blog
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblo g/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pictures of the iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macrumorslive.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> More to come!
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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