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| THAD..Check Out this Video [message #91187] |
Tue, 09 October 2007 10:36  |
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http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=5402
Hey Thad or anyone, check out this new feature in Pro Tools 'Elastic Audio'.
Yeah yeah, on the surface it lloks like ACID meets Ableton Live, but as you
get deeper into the video(15 minutes), you start seesing some really powerful
editing stuff.
This new Elastic Audio feature will replace their Beat-Detective feature
which was already a powerful tool for Drum editing..
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| Re: THAD..Check Out this Video [message #91201 is a reply to message #91193] |
Tue, 09 October 2007 14:53  |
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It does semm a bit ironic that Digi is the Majority stock holder of Avid.
Being that most Pro Tools users are Mac users :)
They (PT) Mac users have no idea that their app is owned by Bill Gates..
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
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>"Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:470bc8f3$1@linux...
>> Elastic Audio is the name of the pitch correction feature in Samplitude
>> (like Melodyne). I guess Digi does not take Magix seriously enough not
to
>> rip off their feature name.
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>This is surely because Micorsoft owns a big chunk of Digidesign and
>therefore encourages them to do this.
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>> LaMont wrote:
>>> http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=5402
>>>
>>> Hey Thad or anyone, check out this new feature in Pro Tools 'Elastic
>>> Audio'.
>>> Yeah yeah, on the surface it lloks like ACID meets Ableton Live, but
as
>>> you
>>> get deeper into the video(15 minutes), you start seesing some really
>>> powerful
>>> editing stuff.
>>>
>>> This new Elastic Audio feature will replace their Beat-Detective feature
>>> which was already a powerful tool for Drum editing..
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| Re: THAD..Check Out this Video [message #91215 is a reply to message #91208] |
Tue, 09 October 2007 19:18 |
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i'm sorry..I meant microsoft..
EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>Actually... it was Avid that bought Digi...
>
>David.
>
>LaMont wrote:
>> It does semm a bit ironic that Digi is the Majority stock holder of Avid.
>> Being that most Pro Tools users are Mac users :)
>>
>> They (PT) Mac users have no idea that their app is owned by Bill Gates..
>>
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
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>>>"Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:470bc8f3$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>Elastic Audio is the name of the pitch correction feature in Samplitude
>>
>>
>>>>(like Melodyne). I guess Digi does not take Magix seriously enough not
>>
>> to
>>
>>>>rip off their feature name.
>>>>
>>>
>>>This is surely because Micorsoft owns a big chunk of Digidesign and
>>>therefore encourages them to do this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>LaMont wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=5402
>>>>>
>>>>>Hey Thad or anyone, check out this new feature in Pro Tools 'Elastic
>>
>>
>>>>>Audio'.
>>>>>Yeah yeah, on the surface it lloks like ACID meets Ableton Live, but
>>
>> as
>>
>>>>>you
>>>>>get deeper into the video(15 minutes), you start seesing some really
>>
>>
>>>>>powerful
>>>>>editing stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>>This new Elastic Audio feature will replace their Beat-Detective feature
>>>>>which was already a powerful tool for Drum editing..
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: THAD..Check Out this Video [message #91242 is a reply to message #91187] |
Wed, 10 October 2007 08:00 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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Interesting stuff, LaMont, just had a chance to watch it. I still think that
there is something really special about Live I've never found in another
audio app. It's a mindset, a degree of predictability within the program,
when you reach for a button or knob or control it's right where you expect
it to be, even if you didn't know where it was going to be. Still this is
cool tech. I often wonder what I'll do if I ever quit using Steinberg software,
and at this point I'd probably go with PT at whatever is their cheapest HD
card rig. Digi certainly seems to have realized that the synth/sample/DJ
set has a few coins to scratch together and seems to be willing to put some
effort into features we can use. Maybe they finally noticed at Frankfurt
Messe that even the elevator music is techno.
TCB
"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
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>http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=5402
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>Hey Thad or anyone, check out this new feature in Pro Tools 'Elastic Audio'.
>Yeah yeah, on the surface it lloks like ACID meets Ableton Live, but as
you
>get deeper into the video(15 minutes), you start seesing some really powerful
>editing stuff.
>
>This new Elastic Audio feature will replace their Beat-Detective feature
>which was already a powerful tool for Drum editing..
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| Re: THAD..Check Out this Video [message #91257 is a reply to message #91242] |
Wed, 10 October 2007 18:21 |
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Thad, I agree with you about Live uniqueness. I also feel that with the upcomming
release of Live 7, that's goinf to push alot of users to that DAW. That (Live
7)is Sweet!! . I few more updates(Not that need any), Live can compete with
and even surpass he big boys..
My question is: Since Ableton is under he Avid umbrella, will LIve version
8 compete with PT LE..MPowered OR, does live speak to a completely differnt
audience not matter how many DAW like features is gets?
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>Interesting stuff, LaMont, just had a chance to watch it. I still think
that
>there is something really special about Live I've never found in another
>audio app. It's a mindset, a degree of predictability within the program,
>when you reach for a button or knob or control it's right where you expect
>it to be, even if you didn't know where it was going to be. Still this is
>cool tech. I often wonder what I'll do if I ever quit using Steinberg software,
>and at this point I'd probably go with PT at whatever is their cheapest
HD
>card rig. Digi certainly seems to have realized that the synth/sample/DJ
>set has a few coins to scratch together and seems to be willing to put some
>effort into features we can use. Maybe they finally noticed at Frankfurt
>Messe that even the elevator music is techno.
>
>TCB
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>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=5402
>>
>>Hey Thad or anyone, check out this new feature in Pro Tools 'Elastic Audio'.
>>Yeah yeah, on the surface it lloks like ACID meets Ableton Live, but as
>you
>>get deeper into the video(15 minutes), you start seesing some really powerful
>>editing stuff.
>>
>>This new Elastic Audio feature will replace their Beat-Detective feature
>>which was already a powerful tool for Drum editing..
>
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| Re: THAD..Check Out this Video [message #91270 is a reply to message #91257] |
Wed, 10 October 2007 21:36 |
Aaron Allen
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more likely, avid will split the features leaving you wanting for either
side that can be found on whatever the other is.
AA
"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:470d7ab2$1@linux...
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> Thad, I agree with you about Live uniqueness. I also feel that with the
> upcomming
> release of Live 7, that's goinf to push alot of users to that DAW. That
> (Live
> 7)is Sweet!! . I few more updates(Not that need any), Live can compete
> with
> and even surpass he big boys..
>
> My question is: Since Ableton is under he Avid umbrella, will LIve version
> 8 compete with PT LE..MPowered OR, does live speak to a completely
> differnt
> audience not matter how many DAW like features is gets?
>
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>Interesting stuff, LaMont, just had a chance to watch it. I still think
> that
>>there is something really special about Live I've never found in another
>>audio app. It's a mindset, a degree of predictability within the program,
>>when you reach for a button or knob or control it's right where you expect
>>it to be, even if you didn't know where it was going to be. Still this is
>>cool tech. I often wonder what I'll do if I ever quit using Steinberg
>>software,
>>and at this point I'd probably go with PT at whatever is their cheapest
> HD
>>card rig. Digi certainly seems to have realized that the synth/sample/DJ
>>set has a few coins to scratch together and seems to be willing to put
>>some
>>effort into features we can use. Maybe they finally noticed at Frankfurt
>>Messe that even the elevator music is techno.
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=5402
>>>
>>>Hey Thad or anyone, check out this new feature in Pro Tools 'Elastic
>>>Audio'.
>>>Yeah yeah, on the surface it lloks like ACID meets Ableton Live, but as
>>you
>>>get deeper into the video(15 minutes), you start seesing some really
>>>powerful
>>>editing stuff.
>>>
>>>This new Elastic Audio feature will replace their Beat-Detective feature
>>>which was already a powerful tool for Drum editing..
>>
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| Re: THAD..Check Out this Video [message #91290 is a reply to message #91257] |
Thu, 11 October 2007 06:30 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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Hey LaMont,
I could be wrong, but I don't think the relationship between Ableton and
Digi is all that close. Yes, Digi is bundling essentially Live LE with PT,
but I think the appearance of Ableton being under Digi's umbrella was the
fact that for a few years Live was distributed in the US by M-Audio who were
actually bought out by Digi. My understanding is that Ableton is back to
distributing themselves in the US and that their relationship with Digi is
of mutual consent. I.e. if Digi wants M-Audio to do X they do it, while if
Digi wants Ableton to do X they can ask and cajole but it's still Ableton's
to take or leave.
As an aside, one of the things European software companies complain about
most bitterly is the was US distribution is done. There are a lot of reason
why they complain but in pretty much every case they think they get screwed.
I think a lot of them would like to go to download only if they could, but
the size of the downloads are just too much still.
TCB
"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Thad, I agree with you about Live uniqueness. I also feel that with the
upcomming
>release of Live 7, that's goinf to push alot of users to that DAW. That
(Live
>7)is Sweet!! . I few more updates(Not that need any), Live can compete
with
>and even surpass he big boys..
>
>My question is: Since Ableton is under he Avid umbrella, will LIve version
>8 compete with PT LE..MPowered OR, does live speak to a completely differnt
>audience not matter how many DAW like features is gets?
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>Interesting stuff, LaMont, just had a chance to watch it. I still think
>that
>>there is something really special about Live I've never found in another
>>audio app. It's a mindset, a degree of predictability within the program,
>>when you reach for a button or knob or control it's right where you expect
>>it to be, even if you didn't know where it was going to be. Still this
is
>>cool tech. I often wonder what I'll do if I ever quit using Steinberg software,
>>and at this point I'd probably go with PT at whatever is their cheapest
>HD
>>card rig. Digi certainly seems to have realized that the synth/sample/DJ
>>set has a few coins to scratch together and seems to be willing to put
some
>>effort into features we can use. Maybe they finally noticed at Frankfurt
>>Messe that even the elevator music is techno.
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=5402
>>>
>>>Hey Thad or anyone, check out this new feature in Pro Tools 'Elastic Audio'.
>>>Yeah yeah, on the surface it lloks like ACID meets Ableton Live, but as
>>you
>>>get deeper into the video(15 minutes), you start seesing some really powerful
>>>editing stuff.
>>>
>>>This new Elastic Audio feature will replace their Beat-Detective feature
>>>which was already a powerful tool for Drum editing..
>>
>
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| Re: THAD..Check Out this Video [message #91301 is a reply to message #91290] |
Thu, 11 October 2007 08:27 |
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Thanks.. It is funny, now that Pro Tools has this Elastic Audio.
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>Hey LaMont,
>
>I could be wrong, but I don't think the relationship between Ableton and
>Digi is all that close. Yes, Digi is bundling essentially Live LE with PT,
>but I think the appearance of Ableton being under Digi's umbrella was the
>fact that for a few years Live was distributed in the US by M-Audio who
were
>actually bought out by Digi. My understanding is that Ableton is back to
>distributing themselves in the US and that their relationship with Digi
is
>of mutual consent. I.e. if Digi wants M-Audio to do X they do it, while
if
>Digi wants Ableton to do X they can ask and cajole but it's still Ableton's
>to take or leave.
>
>As an aside, one of the things European software companies complain about
>most bitterly is the was US distribution is done. There are a lot of reason
>why they complain but in pretty much every case they think they get screwed.
>I think a lot of them would like to go to download only if they could, but
>the size of the downloads are just too much still.
>
>TCB
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Thad, I agree with you about Live uniqueness. I also feel that with the
>upcomming
>>release of Live 7, that's goinf to push alot of users to that DAW. That
>(Live
>>7)is Sweet!! . I few more updates(Not that need any), Live can compete
>with
>>and even surpass he big boys..
>>
>>My question is: Since Ableton is under he Avid umbrella, will LIve version
>>8 compete with PT LE..MPowered OR, does live speak to a completely differnt
>>audience not matter how many DAW like features is gets?
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Interesting stuff, LaMont, just had a chance to watch it. I still think
>>that
>>>there is something really special about Live I've never found in another
>>>audio app. It's a mindset, a degree of predictability within the program,
>>>when you reach for a button or knob or control it's right where you expect
>>>it to be, even if you didn't know where it was going to be. Still this
>is
>>>cool tech. I often wonder what I'll do if I ever quit using Steinberg
software,
>>>and at this point I'd probably go with PT at whatever is their cheapest
>>HD
>>>card rig. Digi certainly seems to have realized that the synth/sample/DJ
>>>set has a few coins to scratch together and seems to be willing to put
>some
>>>effort into features we can use. Maybe they finally noticed at Frankfurt
>>>Messe that even the elevator music is techno.
>>>
>>>TCB
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=5402
>>>>
>>>>Hey Thad or anyone, check out this new feature in Pro Tools 'Elastic
Audio'.
>>>>Yeah yeah, on the surface it lloks like ACID meets Ableton Live, but
as
>>>you
>>>>get deeper into the video(15 minutes), you start seesing some really
powerful
>>>>editing stuff.
>>>>
>>>>This new Elastic Audio feature will replace their Beat-Detective feature
>>>>which was already a powerful tool for Drum editing..
>>>
>>
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| Re: THAD..Check Out this Video [message #91310 is a reply to message #91301] |
Thu, 11 October 2007 10:27 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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Senior Member |
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It wouldn't surprise me if Digi licensed the tech from Ableton, that kind
of deal makes sense. But I have some personal knowledge of the Ableton principals
and they seem to have pretty sharp business minds, so I doubt they'd sell
the code base to Digi for cheap. Then again, I could be wrong about all of
this, but one of the reassuring things about Ableton is that they've been
smart and savvy about how they're growing the company.
Then again, I could be wrong about all of this and maybe they'll pull a Steinberg
or an Emagic and cash in at the right moment and leave their users in limbo
for a few years.
TCB
"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
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>Thanks.. It is funny, now that Pro Tools has this Elastic Audio.
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hey LaMont,
>>
>>I could be wrong, but I don't think the relationship between Ableton and
>>Digi is all that close. Yes, Digi is bundling essentially Live LE with
PT,
>>but I think the appearance of Ableton being under Digi's umbrella was the
>>fact that for a few years Live was distributed in the US by M-Audio who
>were
>>actually bought out by Digi. My understanding is that Ableton is back to
>>distributing themselves in the US and that their relationship with Digi
>is
>>of mutual consent. I.e. if Digi wants M-Audio to do X they do it, while
>if
>>Digi wants Ableton to do X they can ask and cajole but it's still Ableton's
>>to take or leave.
>>
>>As an aside, one of the things European software companies complain about
>>most bitterly is the was US distribution is done. There are a lot of reason
>>why they complain but in pretty much every case they think they get screwed.
>>I think a lot of them would like to go to download only if they could,
but
>>the size of the downloads are just too much still.
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Thad, I agree with you about Live uniqueness. I also feel that with the
>>upcomming
>>>release of Live 7, that's goinf to push alot of users to that DAW. That
>>(Live
>>>7)is Sweet!! . I few more updates(Not that need any), Live can compete
>>with
>>>and even surpass he big boys..
>>>
>>>My question is: Since Ableton is under he Avid umbrella, will LIve version
>>>8 compete with PT LE..MPowered OR, does live speak to a completely differnt
>>>audience not matter how many DAW like features is gets?
>>>
>>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Interesting stuff, LaMont, just had a chance to watch it. I still think
>>>that
>>>>there is something really special about Live I've never found in another
>>>>audio app. It's a mindset, a degree of predictability within the program,
>>>>when you reach for a button or knob or control it's right where you expect
>>>>it to be, even if you didn't know where it was going to be. Still this
>>is
>>>>cool tech. I often wonder what I'll do if I ever quit using Steinberg
>software,
>>>>and at this point I'd probably go with PT at whatever is their cheapest
>>>HD
>>>>card rig. Digi certainly seems to have realized that the synth/sample/DJ
>>>>set has a few coins to scratch together and seems to be willing to put
>>some
>>>>effort into features we can use. Maybe they finally noticed at Frankfurt
>>>>Messe that even the elevator music is techno.
>>>>
>>>>TCB
>>>>
>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=5402
>>>>>
>>>>>Hey Thad or anyone, check out this new feature in Pro Tools 'Elastic
>Audio'.
>>>>>Yeah yeah, on the surface it lloks like ACID meets Ableton Live, but
>as
>>>>you
>>>>>get deeper into the video(15 minutes), you start seesing some really
>powerful
>>>>>editing stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>>This new Elastic Audio feature will replace their Beat-Detective feature
>>>>>which was already a powerful tool for Drum editing..
>>>>
>>>
>>
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