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Latency is messed up and presets are gone. Is it UAD or FXpansion at fault? [message #77048] Fri, 15 December 2006 00:29 Go to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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I hadn't made any changes except the hardware wordclock to 48k
for this project. When it made it into the project just once, the =
latencies were
all off. There are a bunch of UADs in use. It had played well in the =
past.

So I switched to my cloned C drive and the latencies were off there
too. ? . Does the UAD need a setting changed?

I reloaded the UAD 4.3 drivers (original latency I've been using) and =
now=20
I have all these plugins at Paris boot that can't be found, most of =
which=20
are ones I don't have authorizations for but not all. I never had to =
click=20
those away before.

After switching the clock back to 44.1 I tried other projects at 44.1 =
but they also didn't play=20
right latency wise. I also lost all my presets once I'm using the =
plugins. =20
This is across the board. =20

I rescanned them 3 times with FXpansion 3.3 but no help. I check no VST =
prefix, rescan failed plugs,=20
rescan existing plugs and I uncheck the DX question on the second page. =
I directed FXpansion
to the single folder that has all my VSTs.

Any suggestions?

Thanks because I am really confused now.
Tom






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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I hadn't made any changes except the =
hardware=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for this project.&nbsp; When it made it =

into&nbsp;the project&nbsp;just once,&nbsp;the latencies =
were</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>all off.&nbsp; There are a bunch of =
UADs in=20
use.&nbsp; It had played well in the past.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So I switched to my cloned C drive and =
the=20
latencies were off there</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>too.&nbsp;? .&nbsp; Does the UAD need a =
setting=20
changed?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I reloaded the UAD 4.3 drivers =
(original latency=20
I've been using) and now </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have all these plugins </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>at Paris boot that can't be found, most of which </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>are ones I don't </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>have authorizations for but not all.&nbsp; I never had to <FONT =

face=3DArial size=3D2>click </FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>those away =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>before.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>After switching the clock back to 44.1 =
I tried=20
other projects at 44.1 </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but they also =
didn't play=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>right latency wise. </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>I also lost all my presets once I'm&nbsp;using the =
plugins.&nbsp;=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>across the=20
board.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I rescanned them 3 times with FXpansion =
3.3 but no=20
help.&nbsp; </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I check no VST prefix, =
rescan failed=20
plugs, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rescan existing plugs and </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>I uncheck the DX question on the second page.&nbsp;&nbsp;I =
directed=20
FXpansion</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to the single folder that has all my=20
VSTs.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any suggestions?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks because I am really confused=20
now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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Re: Latency is messed up and presets are gone. Is it UAD or FXpansion at fault? [message #77055 is a reply to message #77048] Fri, 15 December 2006 05:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
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Tom, the UAD latency is different for 48k than 44.1. This is true for all
versions of the UAD software. The latency hasn't chanced though,from earlier
versions of the software, unless you've changed to a different wrapper.

Don't know why your other 44.1 ppjs didn't play at the right latency though.


On the FXpansion wrapper....unless you add/update stuff in EXACTLY the right
method, you will loose your presets. The way you described what you did.....you
would have lost them.

Sounds like when you tried going back to 4.3 everything went haywire. The
best bet is to totally un install the UAD and re-install it, unless you have
a previous ghost image (I hope you do), then just re ghost.
Rod

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>I hadn't made any changes except the hardware wordclock to 48k
>for this project. When it made it into the project just once, the =
>latencies were
>all off. There are a bunch of UADs in use. It had played well in the =
>past.
>
>So I switched to my cloned C drive and the latencies were off there
>too. ? . Does the UAD need a setting changed?
>
>I reloaded the UAD 4.3 drivers (original latency I've been using) and =
>now=20
>I have all these plugins at Paris boot that can't be found, most of =
>which=20
>are ones I don't have authorizations for but not all. I never had to =
>click=20
>those away before.
>
>After switching the clock back to 44.1 I tried other projects at 44.1 =
>but they also didn't play=20
>right latency wise. I also lost all my presets once I'm using the =
>plugins. =20
>This is across the board. =20
>
>I rescanned them 3 times with FXpansion 3.3 but no help. I check no VST
=
>prefix, rescan failed plugs,=20
>rescan existing plugs and I uncheck the DX question on the second page.
=
>I directed FXpansion
>to the single folder that has all my VSTs.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Thanks because I am really confused now.
>Tom
>
>
>
>
>
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I hadn't made any changes except the =
>hardware=20
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for this project.  When it made it =
>
>into the project just once, the latencies =
>were</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>all off.  There are a bunch of =
>UADs in=20
>use.  It had played well in the past.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So I switched to my cloned C drive and
=
>the=20
>latencies were off there</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>too. ? .  Does the UAD need a =
>setting=20
>changed?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I reloaded the UAD 4.3 drivers =
>(original latency=20
>I've been using) and now </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have all these plugins </FONT><FONT =
>face=3DArial=20
>size=3D2>at Paris boot that can't be found, most of which </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>are ones I don't </FONT><FONT =
>face=3DArial=20
>size=3D2>have authorizations for but not all.  I never had to <FONT =
>
>face=3DArial size=3D2>click </FONT></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>those away
=
></FONT><FONT=20
>face=3DArial size=3D2>before.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>After switching the clock back to 44.1
=
>I tried=20
>other projects at 44.1 </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but they also
=
>didn't play=20
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>right latency wise. </FONT><FONT =
>face=3DArial=20
>size=3D2>I also lost all my presets once I'm using the =
>plugins. =20
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
>size=3D2>across the=20
>board.  </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I rescanned them 3 times with FXpansion
=
>3.3 but no=20
>help.  </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I check no VST prefix, =
>rescan failed=20
>plugs, </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rescan existing plugs and </FONT><FONT
=
>face=3DArial=20
>size=3D2>I uncheck the DX question on the second page.  I =
>directed=20
>FXpansion</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to the single folder that has all my=20
>VSTs.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any suggestions?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks because I am really confused=20
>now.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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Re: Latency is messed up and presets are gone. Is it UAD or FXpansion at fault? [message #77062 is a reply to message #77048] Fri, 15 December 2006 07:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   UNITED STATES
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What Rod said. 48k is going to be different latency which means your =
Paris nudge-to-AnalogX Sampleslide ratios will change.=20

Arrrrggghhhh!!!! What a drag amigo.

;oP

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:45825a33@linux...
I hadn't made any changes except the hardware wordclock to 48k
for this project. When it made it into the project just once, the =
latencies were
all off. There are a bunch of UADs in use. It had played well in the =
past.

So I switched to my cloned C drive and the latencies were off there
too. ? . Does the UAD need a setting changed?

I reloaded the UAD 4.3 drivers (original latency I've been using) and =
now=20
I have all these plugins at Paris boot that can't be found, most of =
which=20
are ones I don't have authorizations for but not all. I never had to =
click=20
those away before.

After switching the clock back to 44.1 I tried other projects at 44.1 =
but they also didn't play=20
right latency wise. I also lost all my presets once I'm using the =
plugins. =20
This is across the board. =20

I rescanned them 3 times with FXpansion 3.3 but no help. I check no =
VST prefix, rescan failed plugs,=20
rescan existing plugs and I uncheck the DX question on the second =
page. I directed FXpansion
to the single folder that has all my VSTs.

Any suggestions?

Thanks because I am really confused now.
Tom






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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What Rod said. 48k is going to be =
different latency=20
which means your Paris nudge-to-AnalogX Sampleslide ratios will change.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Arrrrggghhhh!!!! What a drag =
amigo.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;oP</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt; wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:45825a33@linux">news:45825a33@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I hadn't made any changes except the =
hardware=20
wordclock to 48k</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for this project.&nbsp; When it made =
it=20
into&nbsp;the project&nbsp;just once,&nbsp;the latencies =
were</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>all off.&nbsp; There are a bunch of =
UADs in=20
use.&nbsp; It had played well in the past.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So I switched to my cloned C drive =
and the=20
latencies were off there</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>too.&nbsp;? .&nbsp; Does the UAD need =
a setting=20
changed?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I reloaded the UAD 4.3 drivers =
(original latency=20
I've been using) and now </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have all these plugins </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>at Paris boot that can't be found, most of which =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>are ones I don't </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>have authorizations for but not all.&nbsp; I never had to =
<FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>click </FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>those =
away </FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>before.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>After switching the clock back to =
44.1 I tried=20
other projects at 44.1 </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but they =
also didn't=20
play </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>right latency wise. </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>I also lost all my presets once I'm&nbsp;using the =
plugins.&nbsp;=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>across the=20
board.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I rescanned them 3 times with =
FXpansion 3.3 but=20
no help.&nbsp; </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I check no VST =
prefix, rescan=20
failed plugs, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rescan existing plugs and =
</FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>I uncheck the DX question on the second page.&nbsp;&nbsp;I =
directed=20
FXpansion</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to the single folder that has all my=20
VSTs.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any suggestions?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks because I am really confused=20
now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Re: Latency is messed up and presets are gone. Is it UAD or FXpansion at fault? [message #77065 is a reply to message #77055] Fri, 15 December 2006 07:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rod,
I could have sworn we had this conversation a month ago and with UAD =
version 4.4
my latency changed and you agreed. At that time, I went back to 4.3 and =
all was better.
Have you been using 4.4 or 4.5 with all the same settings?

Now out of the blue, latency is different (I haven't figured out to =
what). I lost all
my presets to all my plugins. C drive #1 still has them but paris =
wasn't acting right
and crashing when loading two different projects.

Can you enlighten me on exactly the right method with the the wrapper? =20
Don't check rescan existing plugs?=20
Also where are they exactly so I can copy them from C drive 1 to 2.

When I switched to C drive #2 (UAD ver 4.4) the latency was different. =
C drive #1
had been working fine until last night at both sample rates. Maybe my =
wordclock
is screwy.

Maybe because the presets are gone Sampleslide is not set correctly? I =
use it for
less than 100 samples using my method and latency is like 300ms+ =
different now.

Man . . .


"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =
news:45829a4f$1@linux...

Tom, the UAD latency is different for 48k than 44.1. This is true for =
all
versions of the UAD software. The latency hasn't chanced though,from =
earlier
versions of the software, unless you've changed to a different =
wrapper.

Don't know why your other 44.1 ppjs didn't play at the right latency =
though.


On the FXpansion wrapper....unless you add/update stuff in EXACTLY the =
right
method, you will loose your presets. The way you described what you =
did.....you
would have lost them.

Sounds like when you tried going back to 4.3 everything went haywire. =
The
best bet is to totally un install the UAD and re-install it, unless =
you have
a previous ghost image (I hope you do), then just re ghost.
Rod

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>I hadn't made any changes except the hardware wordclock to 48k
>for this project. When it made it into the project just once, the =
=3D
>latencies were
>all off. There are a bunch of UADs in use. It had played well in =
the =3D
>past.
>
>So I switched to my cloned C drive and the latencies were off there
>too. ? . Does the UAD need a setting changed?
>
>I reloaded the UAD 4.3 drivers (original latency I've been using) and =
=3D
>now=3D20
>I have all these plugins at Paris boot that can't be found, most of =
=3D
>which=3D20
>are ones I don't have authorizations for but not all. I never had to =
=3D
>click=3D20
>those away before.
>
>After switching the clock back to 44.1 I tried other projects at 44.1 =
=3D
>but they also didn't play=3D20
>right latency wise. I also lost all my presets once I'm using the =3D
>plugins. =3D20
>This is across the board. =3D20
>
>I rescanned them 3 times with FXpansion 3.3 but no help. I check no =
VST
=3D
>prefix, rescan failed plugs,=3D20
>rescan existing plugs and I uncheck the DX question on the second =
page.
=3D
>I directed FXpansion
>to the single folder that has all my VSTs.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Thanks because I am really confused now.
>Tom
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>wordclock to 48k</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>for this project. When it made =
it =3D
>
>into the project just once, the latencies =3D
>were</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>all off. There are a bunch of =
=3D
>UADs in=3D20
>use. It had played well in the past.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>So I switched to my cloned C =
drive and
=3D
>the=3D20
>latencies were off there</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>too. ? . Does the UAD need a =3D
>setting=3D20
>changed?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I reloaded the UAD 4.3 drivers =
=3D
>(original latency=3D20
>I've been using) and now </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I have all these plugins =
</FONT><FONT =3D
>face=3D3DArial=3D20
>size=3D3D2>at Paris boot that can't be found, most of which =
</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>are ones I don't </FONT><FONT =
=3D
>face=3D3DArial=3D20
>size=3D3D2>have authorizations for but not all. I never had to <FONT =
=3D
>
>face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>click </FONT></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>those away
=3D
></FONT><FONT=3D20
>face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>before.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>After switching the clock back =
to 44.1
=3D
>I tried=3D20
>other projects at 44.1 </FONT><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>but =
they also
=3D
>didn't play=3D20
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>right latency wise. </FONT><FONT =
=3D
>face=3D3DArial=3D20
>size=3D3D2>I also lost all my presets once I'm using the =3D
>plugins. =3D20
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>This is </FONT><FONT =
face=3D3DArial =3D
>size=3D3D2>across the=3D20
>board. </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I rescanned them 3 times with =
FXpansion
=3D
>3.3 but no=3D20
>help. </FONT><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I check no VST prefix, =
=3D
>rescan failed=3D20
>plugs, </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>rescan existing plugs and =
</FONT><FONT
=3D
>face=3D3DArial=3D20
>size=3D3D2>I uncheck the DX question on the second page. I =3D
>directed=3D20
>FXpansion</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>to the single folder that has =
all my=3D20
>VSTs.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Any suggestions?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks because I am really =
confused=3D20
>now.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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><DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rod,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I could have sworn we had this =
conversation a month=20
ago and with UAD version 4.4</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>my latency changed&nbsp;and you =
agreed.&nbsp; At=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Have you been using 4.4 or 4.5 with all =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now out of the blue, latency is =
different (I=20
haven't figured out to what). &nbsp;I lost all</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>my presets to all my plugins.&nbsp; C =
drive&nbsp;#1=20
still has them but paris wasn't acting right</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and crashing when loading two different =

projects.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can you enlighten me on exactly the =
right method=20
with the the wrapper?&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Don't check&nbsp;rescan existing=20
plugs?&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Also where are they exactly so I can =
copy them from=20
C drive 1 to 2.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>When I switched to C drive #2 (UAD ver =
4.4) the=20
latency was different.&nbsp; C drive #1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>had been working fine until last night =
at both=20
sample rates.&nbsp; Maybe my wordclock</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>is screwy.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe because the presets are gone =
Sampleslide is=20
not set correctly?&nbsp; I use it for</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>less than 100 samples using my method =
and latency=20
is like 300ms+ different now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Man . . .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>"Rod Lincoln" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:45829a4f$1@linux">news:45829a4f$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Tom,=
the=20
UAD latency is different for 48k than 44.1. This is true for =
all<BR>versions=20
of the UAD software. The latency hasn't chanced though,from=20
earlier<BR>versions of the software, unless you've changed to a =
different=20
wrapper.<BR><BR>Don't know why your other 44.1 ppjs didn't play at the =
right=20
latency though.<BR><BR><BR>On the FXpansion wrapper....unless you =
add/update=20
stuff in EXACTLY the right<BR>method, you will loose your presets. The =
way you=20
described what you did.....you<BR>would have lost them.<BR><BR>Sounds =
like=20
when you tried going back to 4.3 everything went haywire. The<BR>best =
bet is=20
to totally un install the UAD and re-install it, unless you have<BR>a =
previous=20
ghost image (I hope you do), then just re ghost.<BR>Rod<BR><BR>"Tom =
Bruhl"=20
&lt;<A href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt; =

wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;I hadn't made any changes except the =
hardware=20
wordclock to 48k<BR>&gt;for this project.&nbsp; When it made it into =
the=20
project just once, the =3D<BR>&gt;latencies were<BR>&gt;all off.&nbsp; =
There are=20
a bunch of UADs in use.&nbsp; It had played well in the=20
=3D<BR>&gt;past.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;So I switched to my cloned C drive and =
the=20
latencies were off there<BR>&gt;too. ? .&nbsp; Does the UAD need a =
setting=20
changed?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;I reloaded the UAD 4.3 drivers (original =
latency I've=20
been using) and =3D<BR>&gt;now=3D20<BR>&gt;I have all these plugins at =
Paris boot=20
that can't be found, most of =3D<BR>&gt;which=3D20<BR>&gt;are ones I =
don't have=20
authorizations for but not all.&nbsp; I never had to=20
=3D<BR>&gt;click=3D20<BR>&gt;those away before.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;After =
switching the=20
clock back to 44.1 I tried other projects at 44.1 =3D<BR>&gt;but they =
also=20
didn't play=3D20<BR>&gt;right latency wise. I also lost all my presets =
once I'm=20
using the =3D<BR>&gt;plugins. =3D20<BR>&gt;This is across the board.=20
=3D20<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;I rescanned them 3 times with FXpansion 3.3 but =
no=20
help.&nbsp; I check no VST<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;prefix, rescan failed=20
plugs,=3D20<BR>&gt;rescan existing plugs and I uncheck the DX question =
on the=20
second page.<BR>&nbsp;=3D<BR>&gt;I directed FXpansion<BR>&gt;to the =
single=20
folder that has all my VSTs.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Any=20
suggestions?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Thanks because I am really confused=20
=
now.<BR>&gt;Tom<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;I =

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Re: Latency is messed up and presets are gone. Is it UAD or FXpansion at fault? [message #77081 is a reply to message #77065] Fri, 15 December 2006 11:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
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>I could have sworn we had this conversation a month ago and with UAD =
>version 4.4
>my latency changed and you agreed. At that time, I went back to 4.3 and
=
>all was better.


It was some one else that thought they were different...I said they were
the same.

>Have you been using 4.4 or 4.5 with all the same settings?

I'm using 4.5 with the same settings.

>Maybe because the presets are gone Sampleslide is not set correctly?

This would be my guess.

>Can you enlighten me on exactly the right method with the the wrapper? =20

1.Remove UAD using control Panel (may not have to do this)
2.Install new UAD software
3.Go to My computer/hardware device manager/DSP accelerators and very drivers
are updated for

each card (they usually aren't) uninstall drivers and re-install new version
drivers
4.Restart
5. If you didn't already load new drivers, windows will prompt you at this
time. If you want to

do the automatic add thing...make sure you have all previous UAD versions
deleted off your C

drive or it will just re-load old drivers.
6.Authorize any new plugs
7.Open FXpansion
8.Remove powered plugins folder (assuming this is where the UAD stuff is),don't
close or click

OK at this time.
re-add powered, don't add vst suffix, disable midi, DO NOT CHECK THE RESCAN
PLUGS OR FORCE

RESCAN FAILED PLUGS BOX (this is a sure fire way to loose presets)
that's it

Note....starting with 4.5 you will get (I do anyway, in Paris)an error that
says the Farichild

mono and EX M plug is not installed. To defeat this, install 4.5 again, specifying
a folder

other than the correct folder (you will delete it later) and select the "install
mono versions"
box. Go into the mono folder that's in the folder you chose, copy the Fairchild
and EX-M DLL's
(there the only ones that don't have the word (mono) in parenthisis) and
copy them to the

correct folder. Then delete the bogus folder, or the UAD dll's. I use the
steinberg/vst folder,

since that's what it defaults to, and that's not what I use normally. You
don't have to do

this, but if the error messages bug you (they do me) you can. The mono versions
don't work

correctly in Paris, but it keeps the error screen from popping up.

>Also where are they exactly so I can copy them from C drive 1 to 2?

If your reffering to where the presets are actually stored...I don't know...I've
tried to find it and I can't. Somewhere in the registry. I emailed Angus
at fxpansion and that's all I got out of him. Maybe someone smarter than
me can figure that out.
I know it's NOT in the Paris fx file.

If you've already lost the presets...I don't know of anyway to get them back,
unless you have a ghost image of your C drive.

Also the UAD plugs get told what sample rate to operate at when they're iniated
in the ppj vst slot. Soooo, if you reset the clock back to 44.1 from 48,
you need to get rid of the UAD plugs and re-introduce them so they know what
sample rate to work at.

Also...when you say you reset the hardware clock...are you talking about
an external clock??? If so you also need to set Paris at the proper clock
rate to match the external clock.

In other words, if you have the external clock set to 44.1, but have the
Paris project window set to 48k, even though it will run at 44.1, the UAD
plugs will think it's at 48k and things will get ALL JACKED UP. (been there,
don that)

Is that what happened???

Good luck...I'm afraid you may be SOL in getting your presets back. Let me
know how its going.

Rod
Re: Latency is messed up and presets are gone. Is it UAD or FXpansion at fault? [message #77116 is a reply to message #77081] Fri, 15 December 2006 22:38 Go to previous message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Hey Rod,
Thanks for all the pointers! I do still have a drive with the presets =
although
it was being finicky. I'm thinking the external clock setting was =
causing this.
Not sure why. =20

I screwed up my clone drive with the new drivers and presets being lost.
I'll go back to the original C and make sense of that. Not sure what I =
can
do except boot normally at 48k and go from there. It was having a real =
hard
time getting into this project though. There must have been a reason.

I'll keep you posted but please chime in if you have any suggestions for =
me.
Thanks again,
Tom


"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =
news:4582e84a$1@linux...

>I could have sworn we had this conversation a month ago and with UAD =
=3D
>version 4.4
>my latency changed and you agreed. At that time, I went back to 4.3 =
and
=3D
>all was better.


It was some one else that thought they were different...I said they =
were
the same.

>Have you been using 4.4 or 4.5 with all the same settings?

I'm using 4.5 with the same settings.

>Maybe because the presets are gone Sampleslide is not set correctly?

This would be my guess.

>Can you enlighten me on exactly the right method with the the =
wrapper? =3D20

1.Remove UAD using control Panel (may not have to do this)
2.Install new UAD software
3.Go to My computer/hardware device manager/DSP accelerators and very =
drivers
are updated for=20

each card (they usually aren't) uninstall drivers and re-install new =
version
drivers
4.Restart
5. If you didn't already load new drivers, windows will prompt you at =
this
time. If you want to=20

do the automatic add thing...make sure you have all previous UAD =
versions
deleted off your C=20

drive or it will just re-load old drivers.
6.Authorize any new plugs
7.Open FXpansion
8.Remove powered plugins folder (assuming this is where the UAD stuff =
is),don't
close or click=20

OK at this time.
re-add powered, don't add vst suffix, disable midi, DO NOT CHECK THE =
RESCAN
PLUGS OR FORCE=20

RESCAN FAILED PLUGS BOX (this is a sure fire way to loose presets)
that's it

Note....starting with 4.5 you will get (I do anyway, in Paris)an error =
that
says the Farichild=20

mono and EX M plug is not installed. To defeat this, install 4.5 =
again, specifying
a folder=20

other than the correct folder (you will delete it later) and select =
the "install
mono versions"
box. Go into the mono folder that's in the folder you chose, copy the =
Fairchild
and EX-M DLL's
(there the only ones that don't have the word (mono) in parenthisis) =
and
copy them to the=20

correct folder. Then delete the bogus folder, or the UAD dll's. I use =
the
steinberg/vst folder,=20

since that's what it defaults to, and that's not what I use normally. =
You
don't have to do=20

this, but if the error messages bug you (they do me) you can. The =
mono versions
don't work=20

correctly in Paris, but it keeps the error screen from popping up.

>Also where are they exactly so I can copy them from C drive 1 to 2?

If your reffering to where the presets are actually stored...I don't =
know...I've
tried to find it and I can't. Somewhere in the registry. I emailed =
Angus
at fxpansion and that's all I got out of him. Maybe someone smarter =
than
me can figure that out.
I know it's NOT in the Paris fx file.

If you've already lost the presets...I don't know of anyway to get =
them back,
unless you have a ghost image of your C drive.

Also the UAD plugs get told what sample rate to operate at when =
they're iniated
in the ppj vst slot. Soooo, if you reset the clock back to 44.1 from =
48,
you need to get rid of the UAD plugs and re-introduce them so they =
know what
sample rate to work at.

Also...when you say you reset the hardware clock...are you talking =
about
an external clock??? If so you also need to set Paris at the proper =
clock
rate to match the external clock.

In other words, if you have the external clock set to 44.1, but have =
the
Paris project window set to 48k, even though it will run at 44.1, the =
UAD
plugs will think it's at 48k and things will get ALL JACKED UP. (been =
there,
don that)

Is that what happened???

Good luck...I'm afraid you may be SOL in getting your presets back. =
Let me
know how its going.

Rod









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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not sure why.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I screwed up my clone drive with the =
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=
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t;=20
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I could=20
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this=20
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sure fire=20
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you will=20
get (I do anyway, in Paris)an error that<BR>says the Farichild =
<BR><BR>mono=20
and EX M plug is not installed. To defeat this, install 4.5 again,=20
specifying<BR>a folder <BR><BR>other than the correct folder (you will =
delete=20
it later) and select the "install<BR>mono versions"<BR>box. Go into =
the mono=20
folder that's in the folder you chose, copy the Fairchild<BR>and EX-M=20
DLL's<BR>(there the only ones that don't have the word (mono) in =
parenthisis)=20
and<BR>copy them to the <BR><BR>correct folder. Then delete the bogus =
folder,=20
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that's what=20
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out.<BR>I=20
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a ghost=20
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rate to=20
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reset=20
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plugs and=20
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at.<BR><BR>Also...when you say you reset the hardware clock...are you =
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that=20
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