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Need assistance with Giga [message #89128] Wed, 22 August 2007 10:15 Go to next message
chuck duffy is currently offline  chuck duffy
Messages: 453
Registered: July 2005
Senior Member
Guys,

Desperate help needed. Here's the issue:

I have GigaStudio Solo routed via re-wire to cubase 3.x (no GSIF involved).
I'm outputting through echo mia in cubase.

When I press a note, either on the keyboard, or with the mouse on the onscreen
giga keyboard the note sounds, but then cuts off before the sustain.

It doesn't matter which sample library I use, the latency setting, midi or
non midi. It always cuts off the note after about 1 second.

This is on an HP Athlon 64 with 3GB of RAM, and it all used to work fine.


All I want to do is lay down some 2 track piano, and I can't get it to work.

HELP

Thanks
Chuck
Re: Need assistance with Giga [message #89129 is a reply to message #89128] Wed, 22 August 2007 11:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
Senior Member
Hi Chuck,
Is it doing this in stand alone mode too?
Is it the most current build of Giga?
Try while in stand alone mode to disable the Mia's MIDI ports.
Also in Cubase while not having Giga running disable the Mia's MIdi
outputs so that only Gigaports are being used.
See if that helps.
You are launching Cubase first when using Giga in rewire mode correct?



Chris

chuck duffy wrote:
> Guys,
>
> Desperate help needed. Here's the issue:
>
> I have GigaStudio Solo routed via re-wire to cubase 3.x (no GSIF involved).
> I'm outputting through echo mia in cubase.
>
> When I press a note, either on the keyboard, or with the mouse on the onscreen
> giga keyboard the note sounds, but then cuts off before the sustain.
>
> It doesn't matter which sample library I use, the latency setting, midi or
> non midi. It always cuts off the note after about 1 second.
>
> This is on an HP Athlon 64 with 3GB of RAM, and it all used to work fine.
>
>
> All I want to do is lay down some 2 track piano, and I can't get it to work.
>
> HELP
>
> Thanks
> Chuck

--
Chris Ludwig

ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
Re: Need assistance with Giga [message #89131 is a reply to message #89129] Wed, 22 August 2007 13:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chuck duffy is currently offline  chuck duffy
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Registered: July 2005
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Hi Chris,

It doesn't do it in standalone mode.
It's the most current build of giga
I'm launching cubase first
I will try the other suggestions later

Thanks for your help

Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>Hi Chuck,
>Is it doing this in stand alone mode too?
>Is it the most current build of Giga?
>Try while in stand alone mode to disable the Mia's MIDI ports.
>Also in Cubase while not having Giga running disable the Mia's MIdi
>outputs so that only Gigaports are being used.
>See if that helps.
>You are launching Cubase first when using Giga in rewire mode correct?
>
>
>
>Chris
>
>chuck duffy wrote:
>> Guys,
>>
>> Desperate help needed. Here's the issue:
>>
>> I have GigaStudio Solo routed via re-wire to cubase 3.x (no GSIF involved).
>> I'm outputting through echo mia in cubase.
>>
>> When I press a note, either on the keyboard, or with the mouse on the
onscreen
>> giga keyboard the note sounds, but then cuts off before the sustain.
>>
>> It doesn't matter which sample library I use, the latency setting, midi
or
>> non midi. It always cuts off the note after about 1 second.
>>
>> This is on an HP Athlon 64 with 3GB of RAM, and it all used to work fine.
>>
>>
>> All I want to do is lay down some 2 track piano, and I can't get it to
work.
>>
>> HELP
>>
>> Thanks
>> Chuck
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>
>ADK Pro Audio
>(859) 635-5762
>www.adkproaudio.com
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com
Re: Need assistance with Giga [message #89132 is a reply to message #89131] Wed, 22 August 2007 14:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
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Registered: May 2006
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Hi Chuck,
Ok Good Luck.
BTW I fucking HATE that program!!!.
:)

Chris


chuck duffy wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> It doesn't do it in standalone mode.
> It's the most current build of giga
> I'm launching cubase first
> I will try the other suggestions later
>
> Thanks for your help
>
> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>> Hi Chuck,
>> Is it doing this in stand alone mode too?
>> Is it the most current build of Giga?
>> Try while in stand alone mode to disable the Mia's MIDI ports.
>> Also in Cubase while not having Giga running disable the Mia's MIdi
>> outputs so that only Gigaports are being used.
>> See if that helps.
>> You are launching Cubase first when using Giga in rewire mode correct?
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> chuck duffy wrote:
>>> Guys,
>>>
>>> Desperate help needed. Here's the issue:
>>>
>>> I have GigaStudio Solo routed via re-wire to cubase 3.x (no GSIF involved).
>>> I'm outputting through echo mia in cubase.
>>>
>>> When I press a note, either on the keyboard, or with the mouse on the
> onscreen
>>> giga keyboard the note sounds, but then cuts off before the sustain.
>>>
>>> It doesn't matter which sample library I use, the latency setting, midi
> or
>>> non midi. It always cuts off the note after about 1 second.
>>>
>>> This is on an HP Athlon 64 with 3GB of RAM, and it all used to work fine.
>>>
>>>
>>> All I want to do is lay down some 2 track piano, and I can't get it to
> work.
>>> HELP
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Chuck
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>>
>> ADK Pro Audio
>> (859) 635-5762
>> www.adkproaudio.com
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>

--
Chris Ludwig

ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
Re: Need assistance with Giga [message #89135 is a reply to message #89132] Wed, 22 August 2007 15:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chuck duffy is currently offline  chuck duffy
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Registered: July 2005
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I'm open to suggestions... I need decent piano sounds. That's it.

Chuck

Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>Hi Chuck,
> Ok Good Luck.
>BTW I fucking HATE that program!!!.
>:)
>
>Chris
>
>
>chuck duffy wrote:
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> It doesn't do it in standalone mode.
>> It's the most current build of giga
>> I'm launching cubase first
>> I will try the other suggestions later
>>
>> Thanks for your help
>>
>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Chuck,
>>> Is it doing this in stand alone mode too?
>>> Is it the most current build of Giga?
>>> Try while in stand alone mode to disable the Mia's MIDI ports.
>>> Also in Cubase while not having Giga running disable the Mia's MIdi
>>> outputs so that only Gigaports are being used.
>>> See if that helps.
>>> You are launching Cubase first when using Giga in rewire mode correct?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> chuck duffy wrote:
>>>> Guys,
>>>>
>>>> Desperate help needed. Here's the issue:
>>>>
>>>> I have GigaStudio Solo routed via re-wire to cubase 3.x (no GSIF involved).
>>>> I'm outputting through echo mia in cubase.
>>>>
>>>> When I press a note, either on the keyboard, or with the mouse on the
>> onscreen
>>>> giga keyboard the note sounds, but then cuts off before the sustain.

>>>>
>>>> It doesn't matter which sample library I use, the latency setting, midi
>> or
>>>> non midi. It always cuts off the note after about 1 second.
>>>>
>>>> This is on an HP Athlon 64 with 3GB of RAM, and it all used to work
fine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All I want to do is lay down some 2 track piano, and I can't get it
to
>> work.
>>>> HELP
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Chuck
>>> --
>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>
>>> ADK Pro Audio
>>> (859) 635-5762
>>> www.adkproaudio.com
>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>
>ADK Pro Audio
>(859) 635-5762
>www.adkproaudio.com
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com
Re: Need assistance with Giga [message #89139 is a reply to message #89135] Wed, 22 August 2007 16:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
Senior Member
HI Chuck,
O course this will be open for debate but these are the ones I've heard
that were descent.
Steinberg Grand 2
Ivory
NI Akoustic Piano

There are others but haven't heard them.

Ivory and Akoustic Piano are the most varied but Ivory is very system
intensive. All of them run as either DXi or VSTi so they are far more
integrated into Sonar , Cubase etc.


Not sure if the MIA is fully multi-client audio and Midi but you might
try setting up Giga as a stand alone with Sonar as the default sequencer
for Giga and se if it works.


Chris

chuck duffy wrote:
> I'm open to suggestions... I need decent piano sounds. That's it.
>
> Chuck
>
> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>> Hi Chuck,
>> Ok Good Luck.
>> BTW I fucking HATE that program!!!.
>> :)
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> chuck duffy wrote:
>>> Hi Chris,
>>>
>>> It doesn't do it in standalone mode.
>>> It's the most current build of giga
>>> I'm launching cubase first
>>> I will try the other suggestions later
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help
>>>
>>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Chuck,
>>>> Is it doing this in stand alone mode too?
>>>> Is it the most current build of Giga?
>>>> Try while in stand alone mode to disable the Mia's MIDI ports.
>>>> Also in Cubase while not having Giga running disable the Mia's MIdi
>>>> outputs so that only Gigaports are being used.
>>>> See if that helps.
>>>> You are launching Cubase first when using Giga in rewire mode correct?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> chuck duffy wrote:
>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> Desperate help needed. Here's the issue:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have GigaStudio Solo routed via re-wire to cubase 3.x (no GSIF involved).
>>>>> I'm outputting through echo mia in cubase.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I press a note, either on the keyboard, or with the mouse on the
>>> onscreen
>>>>> giga keyboard the note sounds, but then cuts off before the sustain.
>
>>>>> It doesn't matter which sample library I use, the latency setting, midi
>>> or
>>>>> non midi. It always cuts off the note after about 1 second.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is on an HP Athlon 64 with 3GB of RAM, and it all used to work
> fine.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> All I want to do is lay down some 2 track piano, and I can't get it
> to
>>> work.
>>>>> HELP
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Chuck
>>>> --
>>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>>
>>>> ADK Pro Audio
>>>> (859) 635-5762
>>>> www.adkproaudio.com
>>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>>
>> ADK Pro Audio
>> (859) 635-5762
>> www.adkproaudio.com
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>

--
Chris Ludwig

ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
Re: Need assistance with Giga...Get Kontakt 2.x [message #89151 is a reply to message #89128] Thu, 23 August 2007 20:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LaMont is currently offline  LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
Senior Member
Chuck,
As a Life flong Giga user, I can honestly state,that your best bet is to
Get NI Kontakt 2.x..

Kontakt can play back your Giga programs, AND even convert them (super easily)
inside of it's app.!!

As well as, you can use Kontkt as a regular VSTi inside of Cubase instead
of havig to deal with Rewire( Which is just above OK ) in the Steingbege
apps..Surprisely (Rewire) implemented very well in Pro Tools (M-Powered,LE,
HD).. Who knew!!

I even purchased he new Giga VSTi (GVI) and it's just a little better than
Giga 3.. Native Instruments have really done a bang up job with Kontakt 2.x..Smooth..
AND it can stream from disk..

"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>
>Guys,
>
>Desperate help needed. Here's the issue:
>
>I have GigaStudio Solo routed via re-wire to cubase 3.x (no GSIF involved).
> I'm outputting through echo mia in cubase.
>
>When I press a note, either on the keyboard, or with the mouse on the onscreen
>giga keyboard the note sounds, but then cuts off before the sustain.
>
>It doesn't matter which sample library I use, the latency setting, midi
or
>non midi. It always cuts off the note after about 1 second.
>
>This is on an HP Athlon 64 with 3GB of RAM, and it all used to work fine.
>
>
>All I want to do is lay down some 2 track piano, and I can't get it to work.
>
>HELP
>
>Thanks
>Chuck
Re: Need assistance with Giga...Get Kontakt 2.x [message #89152 is a reply to message #89151] Thu, 23 August 2007 21:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dedric Terry is currently offline  Dedric Terry   UNITED STATES
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
I think about 10 out of every 10 Giga users I know say the same thing about
Giga - get Kontakt (or at least something besides Giga).

I don't use Giga, but will second Lamont's suggestion for Kontakt 2 -
excellent sampler, and it does load Giga files as easily as native Kontakt
files.

Dedric

On 8/23/07 9:56 PM, in article 46ce56d3$1@linux, "LaMont"
<jjdpro@ameritech.ne> wrote:

>
> Chuck,
> As a Life flong Giga user, I can honestly state,that your best bet is to
> Get NI Kontakt 2.x..
>
> Kontakt can play back your Giga programs, AND even convert them (super easily)
> inside of it's app.!!
>
> As well as, you can use Kontkt as a regular VSTi inside of Cubase instead
> of havig to deal with Rewire( Which is just above OK ) in the Steingbege
> apps..Surprisely (Rewire) implemented very well in Pro Tools (M-Powered,LE,
> HD).. Who knew!!
>
> I even purchased he new Giga VSTi (GVI) and it's just a little better than
> Giga 3.. Native Instruments have really done a bang up job with Kontakt
> 2.x..Smooth..
> AND it can stream from disk..
>
> "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>
>> Guys,
>>
>> Desperate help needed. Here's the issue:
>>
>> I have GigaStudio Solo routed via re-wire to cubase 3.x (no GSIF involved).
>> I'm outputting through echo mia in cubase.
>>
>> When I press a note, either on the keyboard, or with the mouse on the
>> onscreen
>> giga keyboard the note sounds, but then cuts off before the sustain.
>>
>> It doesn't matter which sample library I use, the latency setting, midi
> or
>> non midi. It always cuts off the note after about 1 second.
>>
>> This is on an HP Athlon 64 with 3GB of RAM, and it all used to work fine.
>>
>>
>> All I want to do is lay down some 2 track piano, and I can't get it to work.
>>
>> HELP
>>
>> Thanks
>> Chuck
>
Re: Need assistance with Giga [message #89155 is a reply to message #89128] Thu, 23 August 2007 23:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gene lennon is currently offline  gene lennon
Messages: 565
Registered: July 2006
Senior Member
Here is a free piano using Tascam GVI. (Giga engine running VSTi.)
Bottom of page. Not Ivory, but not bad.


http://www.tascamgiga.com/details;8,7,51.html


"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>
>Guys,
>
>Desperate help needed. Here's the issue:
>
>I have GigaStudio Solo routed via re-wire to cubase 3.x (no GSIF involved).
> I'm outputting through echo mia in cubase.
>
>When I press a note, either on the keyboard, or with the mouse on the onscreen
>giga keyboard the note sounds, but then cuts off before the sustain.
>
>It doesn't matter which sample library I use, the latency setting, midi
or
>non midi. It always cuts off the note after about 1 second.
>
>This is on an HP Athlon 64 with 3GB of RAM, and it all used to work fine.
>
>
>All I want to do is lay down some 2 track piano, and I can't get it to work.
>
>HELP
>
>Thanks
>Chuck
Re: Need assistance with Giga [message #89157 is a reply to message #89139] Fri, 24 August 2007 08:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LaMont is currently offline  LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
Senior Member
You are right Chris.. The Grand, Ivory & NI Piano are great.

Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>HI Chuck,
>O course this will be open for debate but these are the ones I've heard

>that were descent.
>Steinberg Grand 2
>Ivory
>NI Akoustic Piano
>
>There are others but haven't heard them.
>
>Ivory and Akoustic Piano are the most varied but Ivory is very system
>intensive. All of them run as either DXi or VSTi so they are far more
>integrated into Sonar , Cubase etc.
>
>
>Not sure if the MIA is fully multi-client audio and Midi but you might
>try setting up Giga as a stand alone with Sonar as the default sequencer

>for Giga and se if it works.
>
>
>Chris
>
>chuck duffy wrote:
>> I'm open to suggestions... I need decent piano sounds. That's it.
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Chuck,
>>> Ok Good Luck.
>>> BTW I fucking HATE that program!!!.
>>> :)
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> chuck duffy wrote:
>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't do it in standalone mode.
>>>> It's the most current build of giga
>>>> I'm launching cubase first
>>>> I will try the other suggestions later
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your help
>>>>
>>>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Chuck,
>>>>> Is it doing this in stand alone mode too?
>>>>> Is it the most current build of Giga?
>>>>> Try while in stand alone mode to disable the Mia's MIDI ports.
>>>>> Also in Cubase while not having Giga running disable the Mia's MIdi

>>>>> outputs so that only Gigaports are being used.
>>>>> See if that helps.
>>>>> You are launching Cubase first when using Giga in rewire mode correct?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>> chuck duffy wrote:
>>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Desperate help needed. Here's the issue:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have GigaStudio Solo routed via re-wire to cubase 3.x (no GSIF involved).
>>>>>> I'm outputting through echo mia in cubase.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I press a note, either on the keyboard, or with the mouse on
the
>>>> onscreen
>>>>>> giga keyboard the note sounds, but then cuts off before the sustain.
>>
>>>>>> It doesn't matter which sample library I use, the latency setting,
midi
>>>> or
>>>>>> non midi. It always cuts off the note after about 1 second.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is on an HP Athlon 64 with 3GB of RAM, and it all used to work
>> fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All I want to do is lay down some 2 track piano, and I can't get it
>> to
>>>> work.
>>>>>> HELP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>> --
>>>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>>>
>>>>> ADK Pro Audio
>>>>> (859) 635-5762
>>>>> www.adkproaudio.com
>>>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>> --
>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>
>>> ADK Pro Audio
>>> (859) 635-5762
>>> www.adkproaudio.com
>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>
>ADK Pro Audio
>(859) 635-5762
>www.adkproaudio.com
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com
Re: Need assistance with Giga [message #89160 is a reply to message #89157] Sat, 25 August 2007 08:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chuck duffy is currently offline  chuck duffy
Messages: 453
Registered: July 2005
Senior Member
Hi Guys,

Thanks for the input. I ended up getting some kind of virtual asio driver
for giga from a place called FXMAX i think.

The other thing I ended up doing was switching audio priority to HIGH in
cubase.

Now it's working fantastic, and I'm able to set the MIA latency to 64 samples,
and EVERYTHING works!

My 7 year old son helped me pull the preamps and mics out of the closet and
wire them up last night. We also hooked up the headphone amp, and found a
couple sets of cans and got them working.

We installed groove agent and B4, and they both work great too.

We did some testing and I had absolutely no problem, or latency playing giga,
groove agent, B4 with a couple live mics going.

It was great having an assistant. He helped me get all the level checks
and set up a default cubase template exactly how I want it. Next step is
to haul out the ampeg and les and get that setup.

Since I stopped using paris, the entire recording exercise has been nothing
but utter frustration for me, to the point where I haven't recorded in years.
Last night I was suspicious that it was all really working, so I powered
off and rebooted, starting up from scratch about 10 times. It's all cool.

Thanks

Chuck



"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>You are right Chris.. The Grand, Ivory & NI Piano are great.
>
>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>HI Chuck,
>>O course this will be open for debate but these are the ones I've heard
>
>>that were descent.
>>Steinberg Grand 2
>>Ivory
>>NI Akoustic Piano
>>
>>There are others but haven't heard them.
>>
>>Ivory and Akoustic Piano are the most varied but Ivory is very system
>>intensive. All of them run as either DXi or VSTi so they are far more
>>integrated into Sonar , Cubase etc.
>>
>>
>>Not sure if the MIA is fully multi-client audio and Midi but you might

>>try setting up Giga as a stand alone with Sonar as the default sequencer
>
>>for Giga and se if it works.
>>
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>chuck duffy wrote:
>>> I'm open to suggestions... I need decent piano sounds. That's it.
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Chuck,
>>>> Ok Good Luck.
>>>> BTW I fucking HATE that program!!!.
>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> chuck duffy wrote:
>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>
>>>>> It doesn't do it in standalone mode.
>>>>> It's the most current build of giga
>>>>> I'm launching cubase first
>>>>> I will try the other suggestions later
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your help
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Chuck,
>>>>>> Is it doing this in stand alone mode too?
>>>>>> Is it the most current build of Giga?
>>>>>> Try while in stand alone mode to disable the Mia's MIDI ports.
>>>>>> Also in Cubase while not having Giga running disable the Mia's MIdi
>
>>>>>> outputs so that only Gigaports are being used.
>>>>>> See if that helps.
>>>>>> You are launching Cubase first when using Giga in rewire mode correct?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>> chuck duffy wrote:
>>>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Desperate help needed. Here's the issue:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have GigaStudio Solo routed via re-wire to cubase 3.x (no GSIF
involved).
>>>>>>> I'm outputting through echo mia in cubase.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I press a note, either on the keyboard, or with the mouse on
>the
>>>>> onscreen
>>>>>>> giga keyboard the note sounds, but then cuts off before the sustain.
>>>
>>>>>>> It doesn't matter which sample library I use, the latency setting,
>midi
>>>>> or
>>>>>>> non midi. It always cuts off the note after about 1 second.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is on an HP Athlon 64 with 3GB of RAM, and it all used to work
>>> fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All I want to do is lay down some 2 track piano, and I can't get
it
>>> to
>>>>> work.
>>>>>>> HELP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ADK Pro Audio
>>>>>> (859) 635-5762
>>>>>> www.adkproaudio.com
>>>>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>>> --
>>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>>
>>>> ADK Pro Audio
>>>> (859) 635-5762
>>>> www.adkproaudio.com
>>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>>
>>
>>--
>>Chris Ludwig
>>
>>ADK Pro Audio
>>(859) 635-5762
>>www.adkproaudio.com
>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>
Re: Need assistance with Giga...Get Kontakt 2.x [message #89168 is a reply to message #89152] Sun, 26 August 2007 10:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chuck duffy is currently offline  chuck duffy
Messages: 453
Registered: July 2005
Senior Member
Yeah, I'm not really a fan of giga, or halion. Unfortunately they are the
only samplers I own right now.

Cash wise I'm not really in a position to switch, but when I am I will try
kontact.

Thanks guys.

Chuck

Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>I think about 10 out of every 10 Giga users I know say the same thing about
>Giga - get Kontakt (or at least something besides Giga).
>
>I don't use Giga, but will second Lamont's suggestion for Kontakt 2 -
>excellent sampler, and it does load Giga files as easily as native Kontakt
>files.
>
>Dedric
>
>On 8/23/07 9:56 PM, in article 46ce56d3$1@linux, "LaMont"
><jjdpro@ameritech.ne> wrote:
>
>>
>> Chuck,
>> As a Life flong Giga user, I can honestly state,that your best bet is
to
>> Get NI Kontakt 2.x..
>>
>> Kontakt can play back your Giga programs, AND even convert them (super
easily)
>> inside of it's app.!!
>>
>> As well as, you can use Kontkt as a regular VSTi inside of Cubase instead
>> of havig to deal with Rewire( Which is just above OK ) in the Steingbege
>> apps..Surprisely (Rewire) implemented very well in Pro Tools (M-Powered,LE,
>> HD).. Who knew!!
>>
>> I even purchased he new Giga VSTi (GVI) and it's just a little better
than
>> Giga 3.. Native Instruments have really done a bang up job with Kontakt
>> 2.x..Smooth..
>> AND it can stream from disk..
>>
>> "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Guys,
>>>
>>> Desperate help needed. Here's the issue:
>>>
>>> I have GigaStudio Solo routed via re-wire to cubase 3.x (no GSIF involved).
>>> I'm outputting through echo mia in cubase.
>>>
>>> When I press a note, either on the keyboard, or with the mouse on the
>>> onscreen
>>> giga keyboard the note sounds, but then cuts off before the sustain.
>>>
>>> It doesn't matter which sample library I use, the latency setting, midi
>> or
>>> non midi. It always cuts off the note after about 1 second.
>>>
>>> This is on an HP Athlon 64 with 3GB of RAM, and it all used to work fine.
>>>
>>>
>>> All I want to do is lay down some 2 track piano, and I can't get it to
work.
>>>
>>> HELP
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Chuck
>>
>
Re: Need assistance with Giga [message #89176 is a reply to message #89160] Mon, 27 August 2007 00:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LaMont is currently offline  LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
Senior Member
Cool.. Thanks for heads up on he asio driver..

"chuck duffy" <c@C.COM> wrote:
>
>Hi Guys,
>
>Thanks for the input. I ended up getting some kind of virtual asio driver
>for giga from a place called FXMAX i think.
>
>The other thing I ended up doing was switching audio priority to HIGH in
>cubase.
>
>Now it's working fantastic, and I'm able to set the MIA latency to 64 samples,
>and EVERYTHING works!
>
>My 7 year old son helped me pull the preamps and mics out of the closet
and
>wire them up last night. We also hooked up the headphone amp, and found
a
>couple sets of cans and got them working.
>
>We installed groove agent and B4, and they both work great too.
>
>We did some testing and I had absolutely no problem, or latency playing
giga,
>groove agent, B4 with a couple live mics going.
>
>It was great having an assistant. He helped me get all the level checks
>and set up a default cubase template exactly how I want it. Next step is
>to haul out the ampeg and les and get that setup.
>
>Since I stopped using paris, the entire recording exercise has been nothing
>but utter frustration for me, to the point where I haven't recorded in years.
>Last night I was suspicious that it was all really working, so I powered
>off and rebooted, starting up from scratch about 10 times. It's all cool.
>
>Thanks
>
>Chuck
>
>
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>You are right Chris.. The Grand, Ivory & NI Piano are great.
>>
>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>HI Chuck,
>>>O course this will be open for debate but these are the ones I've heard
>>
>>>that were descent.
>>>Steinberg Grand 2
>>>Ivory
>>>NI Akoustic Piano
>>>
>>>There are others but haven't heard them.
>>>
>>>Ivory and Akoustic Piano are the most varied but Ivory is very system

>>>intensive. All of them run as either DXi or VSTi so they are far more

>>>integrated into Sonar , Cubase etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>Not sure if the MIA is fully multi-client audio and Midi but you might
>
>>>try setting up Giga as a stand alone with Sonar as the default sequencer
>>
>>>for Giga and se if it works.
>>>
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>
>>>chuck duffy wrote:
>>>> I'm open to suggestions... I need decent piano sounds. That's it.
>>>>
>>>> Chuck
>>>>
>>>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Chuck,
>>>>> Ok Good Luck.
>>>>> BTW I fucking HATE that program!!!.
>>>>> :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> chuck duffy wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It doesn't do it in standalone mode.
>>>>>> It's the most current build of giga
>>>>>> I'm launching cubase first
>>>>>> I will try the other suggestions later
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for your help
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Chuck,
>>>>>>> Is it doing this in stand alone mode too?
>>>>>>> Is it the most current build of Giga?
>>>>>>> Try while in stand alone mode to disable the Mia's MIDI ports.
>>>>>>> Also in Cubase while not having Giga running disable the Mia's MIdi
>>
>>>>>>> outputs so that only Gigaports are being used.
>>>>>>> See if that helps.
>>>>>>> You are launching Cubase first when using Giga in rewire mode correct?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> chuck duffy wrote:
>>>>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Desperate help needed. Here's the issue:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have GigaStudio Solo routed via re-wire to cubase 3.x (no GSIF
>involved).
>>>>>>>> I'm outputting through echo mia in cubase.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I press a note, either on the keyboard, or with the mouse on
>>the
>>>>>> onscreen
>>>>>>>> giga keyboard the note sounds, but then cuts off before the sustain.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> It doesn't matter which sample library I use, the latency setting,
>>midi
>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> non midi. It always cuts off the note after about 1 second.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is on an HP Athlon 64 with 3GB of RAM, and it all used to work
>>>> fine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All I want to do is lay down some 2 track piano, and I can't get
>it
>>>> to
>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>> HELP
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ADK Pro Audio
>>>>>>> (859) 635-5762
>>>>>>> www.adkproaudio.com
>>>>>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>>>> --
>>>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>>>
>>>>> ADK Pro Audio
>>>>> (859) 635-5762
>>>>> www.adkproaudio.com
>>>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>
>>>ADK Pro Audio
>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>www.adkproaudio.com
>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>
>
Re: Need assistance with Giga...Get Kontakt 2.x [message #89186 is a reply to message #89151] Mon, 27 August 2007 13:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
Senior Member
Kontakt was classic NI work. Version 1 was buggier than midsummer Memphis
midnight, and v. 2 was solid as a rock. I have NI Komplete on both my laptop
and desktop music computers. Kontakt is the main sampler I use.

TCB

"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.ne> wrote:
>
>Chuck,
>As a Life flong Giga user, I can honestly state,that your best bet is to
>Get NI Kontakt 2.x..
>
>Kontakt can play back your Giga programs, AND even convert them (super easily)
>inside of it's app.!!
>
>As well as, you can use Kontkt as a regular VSTi inside of Cubase instead
>of havig to deal with Rewire( Which is just above OK ) in the Steingbege
>apps..Surprisely (Rewire) implemented very well in Pro Tools (M-Powered,LE,
>HD).. Who knew!!
>
>I even purchased he new Giga VSTi (GVI) and it's just a little better than
>Giga 3.. Native Instruments have really done a bang up job with Kontakt
2.x..Smooth..
>AND it can stream from disk..
>
>"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>
>>Guys,
>>
>>Desperate help needed. Here's the issue:
>>
>>I have GigaStudio Solo routed via re-wire to cubase 3.x (no GSIF involved).
>> I'm outputting through echo mia in cubase.
>>
>>When I press a note, either on the keyboard, or with the mouse on the onscreen
>>giga keyboard the note sounds, but then cuts off before the sustain.
>>
>>It doesn't matter which sample library I use, the latency setting, midi
>or
>>non midi. It always cuts off the note after about 1 second.
>>
>>This is on an HP Athlon 64 with 3GB of RAM, and it all used to work fine.
>>
>>
>>All I want to do is lay down some 2 track piano, and I can't get it to
work.
>>
>>HELP
>>
>>Thanks
>>Chuck
>
Re: Need assistance with Giga...Get Kontakt 2.x [message #89191 is a reply to message #89186] Mon, 27 August 2007 20:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lamont[7] is currently offline  lamont[7]
Messages: 1
Registered: August 2007
Junior Member
yeah. version 1 was all 2 buggy. probably due to the fact that NI had not
figured out disk streaming..


"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Kontakt was classic NI work. Version 1 was buggier than midsummer Memphis
>midnight, and v. 2 was solid as a rock. I have NI Komplete on both my laptop
>and desktop music computers. Kontakt is the main sampler I use.
>
>TCB
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.ne> wrote:
>>
>>Chuck,
>>As a Life flong Giga user, I can honestly state,that your best bet is to
>>Get NI Kontakt 2.x..
>>
>>Kontakt can play back your Giga programs, AND even convert them (super
easily)
>>inside of it's app.!!
>>
>>As well as, you can use Kontkt as a regular VSTi inside of Cubase instead
>>of havig to deal with Rewire( Which is just above OK ) in the Steingbege
>>apps..Surprisely (Rewire) implemented very well in Pro Tools (M-Powered,LE,
>>HD).. Who knew!!
>>
>>I even purchased he new Giga VSTi (GVI) and it's just a little better than
>>Giga 3.. Native Instruments have really done a bang up job with Kontakt
>2.x..Smooth..
>>AND it can stream from disk..
>>
>>"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Guys,
>>>
>>>Desperate help needed. Here's the issue:
>>>
>>>I have GigaStudio Solo routed via re-wire to cubase 3.x (no GSIF involved).
>>> I'm outputting through echo mia in cubase.
>>>
>>>When I press a note, either on the keyboard, or with the mouse on the
onscreen
>>>giga keyboard the note sounds, but then cuts off before the sustain.
>>>
>>>It doesn't matter which sample library I use, the latency setting, midi
>>or
>>>non midi. It always cuts off the note after about 1 second.
>>>
>>>This is on an HP Athlon 64 with 3GB of RAM, and it all used to work fine.
>>>
>>>
>>>All I want to do is lay down some 2 track piano, and I can't get it to
>work.
>>>
>>>HELP
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>Chuck
>>
>
Re: Need assistance with Giga...Get Kontakt 2.x [message #89198 is a reply to message #89191] Tue, 28 August 2007 08:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
Senior Member
IIRC, and I'm pretty sure I do, Kontakt was one of those NI things that they
basically bought in one piece from an outsider. Like they did with Absynth.
I know where a whole lot of the Kontakt sample library comes from and it
ain't Berlin. Anyway, after they bought the sampler, with their money off
the table they (quite sensibly) wanted to ship something to start getting
a return on the investment. So the first version was pretty ugly, and it
took some time for them to get things straightened out in the code.

In contrast, the things that originate in house, the stuff that guys like
Michael Kurz are doing from scratch, that stuff seems to ship ready for prime
time.

TCB

"lamont" <jjdpro@music.com> wrote:
>
>yeah. version 1 was all 2 buggy. probably due to the fact that NI had not
>figured out disk streaming..
>
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>Kontakt was classic NI work. Version 1 was buggier than midsummer Memphis
>>midnight, and v. 2 was solid as a rock. I have NI Komplete on both my laptop
>>and desktop music computers. Kontakt is the main sampler I use.
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.ne> wrote:
>>>
>>>Chuck,
>>>As a Life flong Giga user, I can honestly state,that your best bet is
to
>>>Get NI Kontakt 2.x..
>>>
>>>Kontakt can play back your Giga programs, AND even convert them (super
>easily)
>>>inside of it's app.!!
>>>
>>>As well as, you can use Kontkt as a regular VSTi inside of Cubase instead
>>>of havig to deal with Rewire( Which is just above OK ) in the Steingbege
>>>apps..Surprisely (Rewire) implemented very well in Pro Tools (M-Powered,LE,
>>>HD).. Who knew!!
>>>
>>>I even purchased he new Giga VSTi (GVI) and it's just a little better
than
>>>Giga 3.. Native Instruments have really done a bang up job with Kontakt
>>2.x..Smooth..
>>>AND it can stream from disk..
>>>
>>>"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Guys,
>>>>
>>>>Desperate help needed. Here's the issue:
>>>>
>>>>I have GigaStudio Solo routed via re-wire to cubase 3.x (no GSIF involved).
>>>> I'm outputting through echo mia in cubase.
>>>>
>>>>When I press a note, either on the keyboard, or with the mouse on the
>onscreen
>>>>giga keyboard the note sounds, but then cuts off before the sustain.

>>>>
>>>>It doesn't matter which sample library I use, the latency setting, midi
>>>or
>>>>non midi. It always cuts off the note after about 1 second.
>>>>
>>>>This is on an HP Athlon 64 with 3GB of RAM, and it all used to work fine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>All I want to do is lay down some 2 track piano, and I can't get it to
>>work.
>>>>
>>>>HELP
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>Chuck
>>>
>>
>
Re: Need assistance with Giga...Get Kontakt 2.x [message #89201 is a reply to message #89198] Tue, 28 August 2007 20:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LaMontt  is currently offline  LaMontt   
Messages: 424
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Senior Member

thad are u refering to eastwest proving the bulk of kontacts lib?


"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>IIRC, and I'm pretty sure I do, Kontakt was one of those NI things that
they
>basically bought in one piece from an outsider. Like they did with Absynth.
>I know where a whole lot of the Kontakt sample library comes from and it
>ain't Berlin. Anyway, after they bought the sampler, with their money off
>the table they (quite sensibly) wanted to ship something to start getting
>a return on the investment. So the first version was pretty ugly, and it
>took some time for them to get things straightened out in the code.
>
>In contrast, the things that originate in house, the stuff that guys like
>Michael Kurz are doing from scratch, that stuff seems to ship ready for
prime
>time.
>
>TCB
>
>"lamont" <jjdpro@music.com> wrote:
>>
>>yeah. version 1 was all 2 buggy. probably due to the fact that NI had not
>>figured out disk streaming..
>>
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Kontakt was classic NI work. Version 1 was buggier than midsummer Memphis
>>>midnight, and v. 2 was solid as a rock. I have NI Komplete on both my
laptop
>>>and desktop music computers. Kontakt is the main sampler I use.
>>>
>>>TCB
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.ne> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Chuck,
>>>>As a Life flong Giga user, I can honestly state,that your best bet is
>to
>>>>Get NI Kontakt 2.x..
>>>>
>>>>Kontakt can play back your Giga programs, AND even convert them (super
>>easily)
>>>>inside of it's app.!!
>>>>
>>>>As well as, you can use Kontkt as a regular VSTi inside of Cubase instead
>>>>of havig to deal with Rewire( Which is just above OK ) in the Steingbege
>>>>apps..Surprisely (Rewire) implemented very well in Pro Tools (M-Powered,LE,
>>>>HD).. Who knew!!
>>>>
>>>>I even purchased he new Giga VSTi (GVI) and it's just a little better
>than
>>>>Giga 3.. Native Instruments have really done a bang up job with Kontakt
>>>2.x..Smooth..
>>>>AND it can stream from disk..
>>>>
>>>>"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Guys,
>>>>>
>>>>>Desperate help needed. Here's the issue:
>>>>>
>>>>>I have GigaStudio Solo routed via re-wire to cubase 3.x (no GSIF involved).
>>>>> I'm outputting through echo mia in cubase.
>>>>>
>>>>>When I press a note, either on the keyboard, or with the mouse on the
>>onscreen
>>>>>giga keyboard the note sounds, but then cuts off before the sustain.
>
>>>>>
>>>>>It doesn't matter which sample library I use, the latency setting, midi
>>>>or
>>>>>non midi. It always cuts off the note after about 1 second.
>>>>>
>>>>>This is on an HP Athlon 64 with 3GB of RAM, and it all used to work
fine.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>All I want to do is lay down some 2 track piano, and I can't get it
to
>>>work.
>>>>>
>>>>>HELP
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>Chuck
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Need assistance with Giga...Get Kontakt 2.x [message #89203 is a reply to message #89201] Tue, 28 August 2007 22:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dedric Terry is currently offline  Dedric Terry   UNITED STATES
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
I thought it was Yellowtools that provided the original Kontakt lib. Some
VSL is in the K2 lib, but just samplings of the full lib.

Dedric

On 8/28/07 9:26 PM, in article 46d4e752$1@linux, "lamont" <jjdpro@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> thad are u refering to eastwest proving the bulk of kontacts lib?
>
>
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>> IIRC, and I'm pretty sure I do, Kontakt was one of those NI things that
> they
>> basically bought in one piece from an outsider. Like they did with Absynth.
>> I know where a whole lot of the Kontakt sample library comes from and it
>> ain't Berlin. Anyway, after they bought the sampler, with their money off
>> the table they (quite sensibly) wanted to ship something to start getting
>> a return on the investment. So the first version was pretty ugly, and it
>> took some time for them to get things straightened out in the code.
>>
>> In contrast, the things that originate in house, the stuff that guys like
>> Michael Kurz are doing from scratch, that stuff seems to ship ready for
> prime
>> time.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> "lamont" <jjdpro@music.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> yeah. version 1 was all 2 buggy. probably due to the fact that NI had not
>>> figured out disk streaming..
>>>
>>>
>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Kontakt was classic NI work. Version 1 was buggier than midsummer Memphis
>>>> midnight, and v. 2 was solid as a rock. I have NI Komplete on both my
> laptop
>>>> and desktop music computers. Kontakt is the main sampler I use.
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>>>>
>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.ne> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Chuck,
>>>>> As a Life flong Giga user, I can honestly state,that your best bet is
>> to
>>>>> Get NI Kontakt 2.x..
>>>>>
>>>>> Kontakt can play back your Giga programs, AND even convert them (super
>>> easily)
>>>>> inside of it's app.!!
>>>>>
>>>>> As well as, you can use Kontkt as a regular VSTi inside of Cubase instead
>>>>> of havig to deal with Rewire( Which is just above OK ) in the Steingbege
>>>>> apps..Surprisely (Rewire) implemented very well in Pro Tools
>>>>> (M-Powered,LE,
>>>>> HD).. Who knew!!
>>>>>
>>>>> I even purchased he new Giga VSTi (GVI) and it's just a little better
>> than
>>>>> Giga 3.. Native Instruments have really done a bang up job with Kontakt
>>>> 2.x..Smooth..
>>>>> AND it can stream from disk..
>>>>>
>>>>> "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Desperate help needed. Here's the issue:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have GigaStudio Solo routed via re-wire to cubase 3.x (no GSIF
>>>>>> involved).
>>>>>> I'm outputting through echo mia in cubase.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I press a note, either on the keyboard, or with the mouse on the
>>> onscreen
>>>>>> giga keyboard the note sounds, but then cuts off before the sustain.
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It doesn't matter which sample library I use, the latency setting, midi
>>>>> or
>>>>>> non midi. It always cuts off the note after about 1 second.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is on an HP Athlon 64 with 3GB of RAM, and it all used to work
> fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All I want to do is lay down some 2 track piano, and I can't get it
> to
>>>> work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HELP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Need assistance with Giga...Get Kontakt 2.x [message #89207 is a reply to message #89203] Wed, 29 August 2007 06:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
Senior Member
And we have a winner!

Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>I thought it was Yellowtools that provided the original Kontakt lib. Some
>VSL is in the K2 lib, but just samplings of the full lib.
>
>Dedric
>
>On 8/28/07 9:26 PM, in article 46d4e752$1@linux, "lamont" <jjdpro@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> thad are u refering to eastwest proving the bulk of kontacts lib?
>>
>>
>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> IIRC, and I'm pretty sure I do, Kontakt was one of those NI things that
>> they
>>> basically bought in one piece from an outsider. Like they did with Absynth.
>>> I know where a whole lot of the Kontakt sample library comes from and
it
>>> ain't Berlin. Anyway, after they bought the sampler, with their money
off
>>> the table they (quite sensibly) wanted to ship something to start getting
>>> a return on the investment. So the first version was pretty ugly, and
it
>>> took some time for them to get things straightened out in the code.
>>>
>>> In contrast, the things that originate in house, the stuff that guys
like
>>> Michael Kurz are doing from scratch, that stuff seems to ship ready for
>> prime
>>> time.
>>>
>>> TCB
>>>
>>> "lamont" <jjdpro@music.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> yeah. version 1 was all 2 buggy. probably due to the fact that NI had
not
>>>> figured out disk streaming..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Kontakt was classic NI work. Version 1 was buggier than midsummer Memphis
>>>>> midnight, and v. 2 was solid as a rock. I have NI Komplete on both
my
>> laptop
>>>>> and desktop music computers. Kontakt is the main sampler I use.
>>>>>
>>>>> TCB
>>>>>
>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.ne> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chuck,
>>>>>> As a Life flong Giga user, I can honestly state,that your best bet
is
>>> to
>>>>>> Get NI Kontakt 2.x..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kontakt can play back your Giga programs, AND even convert them (super
>>>> easily)
>>>>>> inside of it's app.!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As well as, you can use Kontkt as a regular VSTi inside of Cubase
instead
>>>>>> of havig to deal with Rewire( Which is just above OK ) in the Steingbege
>>>>>> apps..Surprisely (Rewire) implemented very well in Pro Tools
>>>>>> (M-Powered,LE,
>>>>>> HD).. Who knew!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I even purchased he new Giga VSTi (GVI) and it's just a little better
>>> than
>>>>>> Giga 3.. Native Instruments have really done a bang up job with Kontakt
>>>>> 2.x..Smooth..
>>>>>> AND it can stream from disk..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Desperate help needed. Here's the issue:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have GigaStudio Solo routed via re-wire to cubase 3.x (no GSIF
>>>>>>> involved).
>>>>>>> I'm outputting through echo mia in cubase.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I press a note, either on the keyboard, or with the mouse on
the
>>>> onscreen
>>>>>>> giga keyboard the note sounds, but then cuts off before the sustain.
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It doesn't matter which sample library I use, the latency setting,
midi
>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> non midi. It always cuts off the note after about 1 second.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is on an HP Athlon 64 with 3GB of RAM, and it all used to work
>> fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All I want to do is lay down some 2 track piano, and I can't get
it
>> to
>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HELP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Need assistance with Giga...Get Kontakt 2.x [message #89209 is a reply to message #89207] Wed, 29 August 2007 07:19 Go to previous message
Dedric Terry is currently offline  Dedric Terry   UNITED STATES
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
Senior Member
What did I win?!? What did I win?!? ;-)

On 8/29/07 7:21 AM, in article 46d572f0$1@linux, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com>
wrote:

>
> And we have a winner!
>
> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>> I thought it was Yellowtools that provided the original Kontakt lib. Some
>> VSL is in the K2 lib, but just samplings of the full lib.
>>
>> Dedric
>>
>> On 8/28/07 9:26 PM, in article 46d4e752$1@linux, "lamont" <jjdpro@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> thad are u refering to eastwest proving the bulk of kontacts lib?
>>>
>>>
>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> IIRC, and I'm pretty sure I do, Kontakt was one of those NI things that
>>> they
>>>> basically bought in one piece from an outsider. Like they did with Absynth.
>>>> I know where a whole lot of the Kontakt sample library comes from and
> it
>>>> ain't Berlin. Anyway, after they bought the sampler, with their money
> off
>>>> the table they (quite sensibly) wanted to ship something to start getting
>>>> a return on the investment. So the first version was pretty ugly, and
> it
>>>> took some time for them to get things straightened out in the code.
>>>>
>>>> In contrast, the things that originate in house, the stuff that guys
> like
>>>> Michael Kurz are doing from scratch, that stuff seems to ship ready for
>>> prime
>>>> time.
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>>>>
>>>> "lamont" <jjdpro@music.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> yeah. version 1 was all 2 buggy. probably due to the fact that NI had
> not
>>>>> figured out disk streaming..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kontakt was classic NI work. Version 1 was buggier than midsummer Memphis
>>>>>> midnight, and v. 2 was solid as a rock. I have NI Komplete on both
> my
>>> laptop
>>>>>> and desktop music computers. Kontakt is the main sampler I use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TCB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.ne> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chuck,
>>>>>>> As a Life flong Giga user, I can honestly state,that your best bet
> is
>>>> to
>>>>>>> Get NI Kontakt 2.x..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kontakt can play back your Giga programs, AND even convert them (super
>>>>> easily)
>>>>>>> inside of it's app.!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As well as, you can use Kontkt as a regular VSTi inside of Cubase
> instead
>>>>>>> of havig to deal with Rewire( Which is just above OK ) in the Steingbege
>>>>>>> apps..Surprisely (Rewire) implemented very well in Pro Tools
>>>>>>> (M-Powered,LE,
>>>>>>> HD).. Who knew!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I even purchased he new Giga VSTi (GVI) and it's just a little better
>>>> than
>>>>>>> Giga 3.. Native Instruments have really done a bang up job with Kontakt
>>>>>> 2.x..Smooth..
>>>>>>> AND it can stream from disk..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Desperate help needed. Here's the issue:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have GigaStudio Solo routed via re-wire to cubase 3.x (no GSIF
>>>>>>>> involved).
>>>>>>>> I'm outputting through echo mia in cubase.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I press a note, either on the keyboard, or with the mouse on
> the
>>>>> onscreen
>>>>>>>> giga keyboard the note sounds, but then cuts off before the sustain.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It doesn't matter which sample library I use, the latency setting,
> midi
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> non midi. It always cuts off the note after about 1 second.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is on an HP Athlon 64 with 3GB of RAM, and it all used to work
>>> fine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All I want to do is lay down some 2 track piano, and I can't get
> it
>>> to
>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HELP
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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